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Gaza also flooded; Palestinians blame IDF
Ali Waked
Published: 19.01.10, 00:26
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31. To 13 Charlotte - I am an eyewitness
Jake in Jerusalem ,   Jerusalem, Israel   (01.19.10)
You complain about Israel attacking Gaza's sewage system. Hello!!!?? Israel GAVE the Gazans all of their modern infrastructure. I lived outside Gaza City in the 1960's and am an eyewitness to the backwardness Gazans (who hadn't yet begun calling themselves "Palestinians", incidentally) lived in under Egyptian rule. They had no fresh water, no sewage treatment, no public health, schools, electricity, telephones. The children were BAREFOOT in the dirt. I saw all this myself. They died like flies of cholera - from using their own sewage for irrigating crops. Israel GAVE them public health, LOWERED their infant mortality, raised their standard of living, gave them the schools where they now trample Israeli flags and brought in roads, electricity, and telephones. This is how their population has exploded under Jewish rule. Now they are living under Arab rule and - surprise! - they are backwards and suffering again. Stop blaming Israel for Arab incompetence, corruption, barbarity and hatred. It's their own fault and about time that they - and YOU - accepted this.
32. #13
Amerisraeli ,   Israel   (01.19.10)
Why don't you first check out your facts? The "Palestinians" were given billions of dollars to take build sewer systems, housing, medical facilities, schools, etc. - check out the Swiss bank accounts of their "leaders" (past & present) and then figure it out. What didn't go to their pockets was spent on the missiles that have been raining on Israel for the last eight years. Imagine your family under the threat of missiles from the area of Los Angeles to San Francisco and then think before you open your useless mouth again.
33. god made sure the soil will be wet
ghostq   (01.19.10)
so none can place those rockets. well he do take care for his people.
34. Hamas should have built an ark instead of kassams
zionist forever   (01.19.10)
THE TERRORISTS CAME IN TWO BY TWO HURAH HURAH If Hamas had only taken a look what Noah did when he had a problem with rain then they wouldn't have this situation today. Its a shame they won't be sending out any doves of peace.
35. to #13 this time you don't blame the weather man
ghostq   (01.19.10)
you find alternative :P
36. LOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL
adir ,   israel   (01.19.10)
the USA,europe,UN,ISRAEL gave more the enough money to the palastinians to build a f*k*ng infrastructure and a proper sewer... ITS NOT ISRAEL FAULT that they decided to buy more weapons to trow on Israel instead of make their life better in there. they eating what they cooked. and its not tasty. so please keep buy weapons and attack israel... damn they are so useless.
37. dam(ned)
Lisa   (01.19.10)
this is really funny- first they build houses in an old riverbed or floodplain- then they blame the Israelis when it rains- after having a 'rain dance' the week before. No wonder nobody is listening to those losers whine anymore. How absolutely pathetic!
38. #32,31 Do not ask me to check the news because I am the news
BBSNews ,   Charlotte, NC   (01.19.10)
how do you dare challenging my authority and untarnished reputation in the news world? shame on you for not blindly accepting everything I invent in my news mill
39. next they will blame us for them being stupid
Potash Katiftof ,   Tel Aviv, Israel   (01.19.10)
The fact that they immediatly lay the blame on others, either israel, the PA, or Egypt, shows that they have no ability to take care of their people.
40. Arthur, an ethnic cleanser and a liar...
BBSNews ,   Charlotte, NC   (01.19.10)
...that pretty much proves you are nothing but a wingnut: "Gaza is a shithole that shoud've been flushed out years ago. It it was in my power - there would not be a single Arab left there." Ethnic cleansing is a crime against humanity. When you encourage Israel to commit a crime against humanity, you are delegitimizing the state of Israel. In other words, you, and those like you, are extremist enemies of Israel, you are a major PR problem, and you are encouraging criminal behavior. Israel has been obstructing modernization projects of Gaza's sewer systems for years, see the Umm Naser disaster for more information. Every single aspect of Israel's various and sundry occupations stink. This is no exception, it's pollution, it's collective punishment, it's a crime against the environment, and it is morally wrong to try and defend such criminal and irresponsible behavior on the part of Israel. In fact, in re-researching the issue, I was sickened to my stomach to read Israelis and their "supporters" LAUGHING about a wall of sewage that killed many and put hundreds out of their homes. People like you are a HUGE PR problem for Israel schmuck.
41. The problem
i ,   jerusalem   (01.19.10)
To an Arab, or Hamas big wig, Public Works means a rocket, or the Public works for me>
42. i, the problem is Israeli denial and self-ignorance...
BBSNews ,   Charlotte, NC   (01.19.10)
...just like yours. For the people who would really like to know what is going on, and warning, the graphic description of what Israel has wrought in Gaza will sicken rational minds, see the new C.A.R.E. Report "Failing Gaza: no rebuilding, no recovery, no more excuses". http://www.carewbg.org/Failing-Gaza.pdf It is absolutely appalling that the average Israeli is not aware of exactly what is going on. Israel steals the vast majority of the waters from the aquifers, right from under the Palestinians. It is unacceptable and undeniable. The UN has recommended to not take ANY water from the aquifer in Gaza otherwise it will be contaminated beyond saving. Israel's continual destruction of infrastructure that the international community bought and paid for is one day going to cost the Israelis big time. Arafat is long dead. You can stop blaming him now, look to the occupier, even C.A.R.E. plainly recognizes Israel as the occupier of Gaza.
43. Jake, I doubt you are even Israeli...
BBSNews ,   Charlotte, NC   (01.19.10)
...we heard your kind over here during the Civil Rights years. I'll bet you live in the US and are a tea bagger... Irrational racial hatred will eat you alive. You sound like one of the overseers from the slave days in the United States. One of the justifications was that slaves had better working and living conditions than Northern factory workers. Much the same as your justification of land and resource theft today by Israel. It's just pitiful that you think you are helping Israel by using slave terminology. You are yet another major PR problem for Israel's image around the world. An Arab hating armchair warrior who dares to call others "backwards" when you are showing that you are about as backwards as wingnuts I have ever come across.
44. To: No. 43
Sarah B ,   U.S.A. / Israel   (01.19.10)
Whether Jake is or is not Israeli is irrelevant. You are not Arab, Moslem or Palestinian, but it hasn't kept you from commenting on the Arab-Israeli conflict. Moreover, a significant number of Jews have made aliyah over the years. There is every reason to believe that Jake falls into that category, and I do believe it. How much time have YOU spent in Israel? Gaza? Judea? Samaria? Yeah. That's what I thought. Jake's knowledge is first-hand. Your knowledge is nonexistent. "[w]e heard your kind over here during the Civil Rights years. I'll bet you live in the US and are a tea bagger... " Jews were proud freedom riders in the Civil Rights era. In fact, Jews were in the forefront of the Civil Rights movement. "Irrational racial hatred will eat you alive." You should know. Your hatred for Jews and Israel is certainly irrational. Judging from the extreme irrationality of your posts, it does appear to be eating you alive. "You sound like one of the overseers from the slave days in the United States." We will accept at face value that your knowledge of plantation overseers is far superior to ours. Do you descend from some? "Much the same as your justification of land and resource theft today by Israel." Same old, same old. Quite a few participants on the YNet forum have pointed out to you that there has been neither (a) land theft, or (b) resource theft. You have conveniently chosen to forget about the rights and privileges that accrue to a nation that prevails while fighting a defensive war. And the loss of all such rights and privileges that are the fate of those who prefer war to peaceful co-existence .... and are defeated in each such war. Too bad, but it is what it is. Your memory lapse changes nothing. "An Arab hating armchair warrior who dares to call others "backwards" when you are showing that you are about as backwards as wingnuts I have ever come across." Substitute “Jew and Israeli" for "Arab," and you have described yourself perfectly. Kudos to you for your rare moment of lucidity.
45. Pals & water
Joseph ,   The Netherlands   (01.20.10)
When they do not get water the Pals blame Israel and when they do get water they ALSO blame Israel, whiners, that's what they are.
46. # 40
BBSNews ,   Charlotte,NC   (01.20.10)
I have learnt a new word "schmuk" thankyou to the Jews who have increased my vocabulary. I love my new word.
47. BBS, B.S. -- YOU ARE A MEAN SPIRITED COMMON BIGOT
ABRAHAM ben JACOB ,   CANADA   (01.20.10)
WHAT ELSE IS THERE TO SAY ? YOU COPY AND PASTE ARTICLES, QUOTES FROM OTHER SOURCES, ALL IN ORDER TO DEMONISE ISRAEL. YOU ARE AN EVIL PERSON. GET ON YOUR KNEES AND PRAY FOR FOREGIVESS. MAYBE YOUR KNEES ARE QUITE SORE RIGHT NOW AFTER ALL THE GROVELLING, KNEELING. AND SUCKING UP TO YOUR BOSSES. GET SOME KNEE PADS AND YOU CAN CONTINUE ON YOUR HATE-FILLED KISSING UP TO THE ARABS, FOR WHATEVER REWARDS YOU ARE RECEIVING. YOU CERTAINLY ARE NOT THE TYPE OF PERSON WHO SPEWS " HATRED " WITHOUT RECEIVING COMPENSATION. AND YOU CERTAINLY HAVE NO REAL LOVE FOR THE ARABS..........YOU JUST WANT TO BEAT UP ON ISRAEL......................... WITH NO REAL SUCCESS AT ALL, BUT THANKS FOR COMING !
48. #13 - Imagine if the PLO actually maintained it?
William ,   Israel   (01.21.10)
Imagine how different it would be in Gaza if the PLO, now Hamas, actually maintained their sewage system. Forget that some of the piping was dug up for use in rockets and other terrorist crap...there is NO denying that despite efforts by the EU and UN to upgrade the infrastructure in Gaza, the "pal" leadership did very little to maintain it. Add to that the water system which needed to be upgraded to receive water from Israel...and again wasn't. Where is the piping? Well, some of it is in pieces in Sderot. Israel piped the water up to Gaza, but no infrastructure to take it. If Gaza is downhill, then with or without dams, they would be flooded...and you'd probably blame the "Zionists" for topography then.
49. #13 - Israel gets the raw sewage up coast
William ,   Israel   (01.21.10)
Don't forget, Israel also sees the results of Gazans' lack of efforts with raw sewage up the coast towards Ashdod. I wonder if Gazans can use tunnels for a new Sewage system? They can sure dig, and they have plenty of metal, it seems. But alas, one cannot make a horse drink once in front of water. Gazans ruined their own aquifer despite years of Israeli water experts warning them to stop.
50. #30 - the operative word here is "IF"
William ,   Israel   (01.21.10)
IF the IDF did this...however, before any proof (nevermind that there is NO dam in central Gaza as claimed), you go on to blame the IDF. Then you claim that Gazans are punished for "voting Hamas", when it was Hamas who claimed they are trying to ethnically cleanse and destroy Israel. Hmmm....who to believe?
51. #42 - Regarding recovery and re-building...
William ,   Israel   (01.21.10)
Does the CARE report also mention how many of the building materials that were allowed into Gaza were taken immediately by Hamas and used to their will? My gosh - I bet they didn't. And where did those materials go if not one Gazan has admitted that Hamas is rebuilding their home, and not one infrastructure project has been initiated?? Dumbass - the aquifer in Gaza is already beyond saving and Israel was warning them of this since 1985! They didn't listen, not do they want Israeli advice. Racism makes their logic go flaccid - same too with Arabs in the Gulf who refused to attend a water conference if an Israeli expert attended, despite Israel possessing tons of experience and the latest arid area irrigation technology.
52. #43 - A worshipper at the "Leftist" pulpit
William ,   Israel   (01.21.10)
A typical self-righteous liberal who spouts venom at everyone they disagree with. A racist Arab? No, just your run-of-the-mill angry Democrat in the US. How does it feel to lose MA because voters are pissed off with your arrogant Leftist leadership dragging the country down the tubes of Socialism??? I'm sure the liberals outside Boston were equally pissed being called a "racist" for not accepting Obama's healthcare reform bill without question. Actually, I feel Jake is a boost to Israel's image, because he speaks from his eye witness accounts, you just spout rhetoric to tow the line.
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