What's the problemo... Germany builds and gives free U-boats to the Israeli navy. The german shipyard(s) employ Polish plumbers and welders to build them. Israelis should be rolling in schadenfreude.

What this bishop is saying is basically, "too bad any jews survived the holocaust in order to exploit it later. Jews bad, everyone else good." OK, we get it; you hate Jews. Now back to your choir boys bishop...

Here we go again. Antisemitism at his best. Wouldn't you know , by those who invented it -- catholics, and " le comble " the polish type. If not the worst, one of most the virulent. bishops, cardinals, priests, monks, popes and more. As you can see the hierarchy level is not important. They all have mastered the " Passion " of hatred, passed on from "pere to fils " (sometimes their own ) for 2000 years. Poland is never going to shed the nazi mantel, as long as they permit this type of parasite to spread their odious, repulsive message; their perverted love of their truth -- HATE. --- And to you mr. graczek, # 11; sad to see America allowing in his midst a reject, from the trash of Europe.

many bishops are holocaust deniers? too many. embarrassing for them, outrageous for us.

hundreds of Jews murdered by their Polish neighbors after WW2 (1945-1946). virulant anti-semitism in Poland

that world war is coming and the fast increasing anti-semitism is the greatest sign. And it can't all be blamed on "settlements" and "Israel's policies". It's something much,much deeper. All nations will be affected and many fall,even the big ones like America,Britain,and Russia. There will be another attempt to squelch Israel but in the end be unsuccessful. The world will lay in the throes of nuclear winter and the same people that are pestering you here on this site may even wish they had never been born if they're still alive at all. Where is the hope in all this? A lot of theology that I'm not sure ynet would allow. All said,be careful what you ask for you just might get it.!

He denied making some of those comments, including the one about Shoah being a Jewish invention. Nevertheless, I think his comments are disgraceful and as a Polish Catholic I am completely appalled by them. He ruined my day...

Although the official Poland has become Israel's good friend, sadly many Poles hold the views expressed by this bishop - primarily that "Jews exploit the Holocaust too much", "Jews hold too much power in the world", and that "Poles have been a victim of the Nazis just like the Jews" (while ignoring their country's willing cooperation with the Nazis to exterminate their Jews, except for a minority righteous Poles). As for the condemning Israel's treatment to the Palestinians - clearly the Poles wouldn't give a rat's a** about the Palestinians, had this not provided them with an excellent opportunity to whitewash their country's part of the Shoah by vilifying the victims.

What about the immaculate conception and the resurrection for starters.

anybody who knows this bishop, knows perfectly well that he did a lot for a jewish-christian dialogue. According to bp Pieronek, many his answers were falsified and/or taken out of context by the journalist who meddled his political wishes with the answers of bishop. Please use translate.google.com to translate the following articles from main Polish news portals. http://wyborcza.pl/1,75248,7491332,Bp_Pieronek__nigdy_nie_uzylem_sformulowania___Szoah.html and http://fakty.interia.pl/religia/news/pieronek-szoah-to-zydowski-wymysl,1429181,2943

as Pius XII , whom you want to beatifiy , was during the Holocaust ? You said that you respect the Jews , prove it . Condemn this bishop . There is a saying that says approximatively : who stays silent , approves . So ? Thousands of Holocaust survivors , hundreds of thousands children and grand children of survivors are waiting . And you don't have this "excuse" that saying something will aggravate the situation .

Apathy, indifference a & lack of concern about these ostensibly "Jewish" problems will eventually lead to a rude awakening for the freedom-loving democratic world,in the words of Irwin Cotler, National Post,21 Feb.2009; "The time has come not only to sound the alarm-but to act. For historty has taught us only too well:while it may begin with the Jews, it does not end with the Jews. Anti-semitism is the canary in the mineshaft of evil & it threatens us all."

Did the retired Bishop,but active Antisemite,notify the government of Germany about his discoveries ?.

The early church fathers of Papism invented AntiSemitism that led to the ravaging of the Holy Land by Papist Crusaders, the Inquisitions and later, the Holocaust in WWII. They also persecuted Judeo-Christians like the Waldensians, Albigensians, Huguenots, Lollards and Protestants during the 1260 years of Dark Ages that started in 538 AD to 1796 when Napoleon's General Berthier captured the Pope and incacerated him. Papism is Paganism pure and simple. The Book of Revelation, The Revelation of Jesus Christ to Apostle John, calls them "Babylon" Revelation Chapter 17. Revelation Chapter 18 reveals what will happen to "Babylon" in the End Time.

why can't Jews accept the truth and not exaggerate it for their own advantage, and whenever someone criticize the Jews or Israel's policy against the Palestinians he is immediately called anti-semetic, what the bishop said is true, Jews are not the only people who were killed by the Nazis, the Nazis didn't differentiate between jews and non jews, wake up jews

I believe it's about 33% of things that could be debated (that there should be more commemoration of other WWII victims for example); 33% bad wording; 33% manipulation of the journalist. Yet, Pieronek created a total mess - he said (badly) a series of controversial things in a row, several days before the big commemoration. He cannot now just hide behind "I was misunderstood", that's lame and cowardly. He should explain himself and apologize. And yes, I am aware he did things for the Jewish-Christian dialogue that's why I'm even more incensed.

not for loss of life.

calumniate the messenger! I am in no way a friend of the Catholic Church and even less of its hierarchical structure, on the contrary, but the talkbacks full of hatred and name-calling concerning the article of Tadeusz Pieronek clearly show how desperate the adherents to the Zionist ideology are today. Instead of listening to the message, they calumniate in the meanest possible way the messenger, the organization he belongs to and the country he comes from. What is his basic message: The concentration camps and the aberrations of the Nazism are a historical reality, the same as the fact that the majority of the victims were Jews. The problem is the instrumentalization of the Shoah - in order to obtain political gains, thereby ignoring that there were innumerable other victims of the Shoah as well (to my knowledge there were about 5 million victims belonging to other minorities), and at about the same time dozens of millions of victims of the Stalinist purges, etc., - and as a Zionist cover-up for the crimes commited against the indigenous Arabs by chasing them away by terrorist means and cheating them out of their land. My own worry: Isn’t the unbearable arrogance of the Zionist ideology which had already been a main source of inspiration for the German ideology of Aryan racial superiority, slowly preparing the downfall of its adherents by completely blinding them to the outside reality and by making them go out of their mind?

Is this a bishop a real one? If is a real bishop I hope that the Italian pope will excommunicate him with no hesitation otherwise I start to think that we have e very serious problem with Vatican.

Was crushed by Russian,German and another time from Russian at the end of war. After WWII there were many pogroms made by "Poor Polish" afraid that some Holocaust survivor will be back and ask what belongs to him. Same happen in Hungary,Russia,Yugoslavia and many other countries. Deniers are vicious individuals or vice versa, they know that all their fortune belongs to those who disappears in concentration camps.

lets face it its the truth that people must learn to handle its like Global Warming coming slowly but for sure and people are awakening

You are a poor observer,there is a Jewish organization called the Jewish foundation,that sends millions of dollars each year to poland and other countries in eastern Europe,to the rescuers of Jews,who are old and sick,so, they can buy food and medicine, pay rent,but people with evil in their heart can't see with their eyes,

Lawrence ! Only the last word of your TB has validity,you can't generelize,many poles and many catholics,risked and lost their life saving Jews,today Poland and Israel have very good relations,so,this B,as you call him does not represent Poland,I wonder whether the statement of this B has anything to do with Jewish criticism of the beatification of pope pius the 12.

I wonder how many Poles took risks to save jewish lives: From 3 million Jews, only 70,000 survived in Poland.400,000 were deported to Gulag, and 250,000 survived. As they tried to come back and rebuild their lives in Poland (as Bund useful idiots asked them), 1,500 were savagely slaughtered, 6,000 wounded during pogroms from 1945 to 1947 by their fellow citizens, who were reluctant to give back their homes or workshops. Thus chasing them westwards, where the only exit was alyah to Israel. The Pals can be thankful to their Polak "friends"!

The jewish people was the only one whose total eradication was bureaucratically planned. From 7 million Jews under german rule in Europe, only 1 million survived, most of them by flight to America or deportation to Siberia, as our dear palestinian cousins blocked any possibility of shelter in our homeland, and even operated as nazi auxiliaries. The latter openly regret that Hitler did not finish the job, but in your opinion, this is no antisemitism.

of biblical Israel. So help us handle the truth by giving back our land.

post facto. The bottom line is that while he did not learn the lessons of the holocaust, WE DID. The Nazis hid their evil agenda "The Final Solution" under a system of euphamisms ( Arbeit Macht Frei, etc). HAMAS openly publicized their agenda of Destroying Israel and Murdering ALL Jews/Israelis in the HAMAS Charter. The Gaza PALs gave tacit approval to the Charter by voting for HAMAS and electing them as their official govt. along with their Charter. With a long history of terror attacks, murder, kidnapping, etc. not only against Israeli citizen, but FATAH in the Gaza coup, Journalists and aid workers who were kidnapped, etc. It this position of advocation for the Destruction of Israel and Murder or All Jews/Israelis is acceptable for HAMAS, then why is it not acceptable that we fight fire with fire and adopt a Newtonian "Equal and Opposite Forece" posture and turn their publically stated position against them? Either they must change the HAMAS Charter to a "Politically Correct" and internationally acceptable format or we should be allowed to respond in kind. A tempered approach to the terrorists of Gaza has not achieved anything. Only when the tables iare turned on the terrorists of Gaza (HAMAS, PRC, IJ, EA, etc) and they are facing the same threat that they advocate against us, is their a chance to destroy their terrorist posture and find the smallest chance some equation for co-existance. If this does not happen, then they have no hope and will inherit what they espouse against us.