1. This is treif
| Loyal Jew , |
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2. #1 who appointed u judge? was Devora treif 2?
Me thinks u r just jealous because you have never written a Torah!
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3. 40 days ago
Shalom
Before 40 days ago many years in past our great massanger Moussa Ben Oumran had across the sea with Awonderful Jewish people
God save Israel for ever
Zaina
Alzian
| Zainab Shehab , |
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4. Torah writing by women
some people will do ANYTHING just to see their name in print. These are sick individuals and we need not concern ourselves with them.
| Shalom , |
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5. @4 SHALOM...i agree with you :-)
| Benjamin , |
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6. AND SO PORK IS NOW KOSHER, THEY CHANGED THAT ALSO
THE REASON PORK IS NOW KOSHER IS
because for thousands of years it was NEVER kosher and so WE THINK ITS TIME TO CHANGE ALL THAT.
SO LETS JUST DO IT.
LETS MAKE HISTORY...
LETS SEE WHAT ELSE CAN WE CHANGE....?
AHHH
HMMMMM
WHA? WE CAN CHANGE A LETTER?
CANT ADD NOR SUBTRACT?
AWWWW, do you think that
YOUR god really meant that ?
after all man made god in his image
WAIT A MINUTE..OR WAS IT
GD made man in HIS image...
Geee everything sounds so confusing lately....
Maybe i should just go back to the original TORAH AND RABBIS
and forget all this modernized stuff.
IT WAS SO SIMPLE BEFORE THESE NEW AGE OF AQUARIUS
jews felt so jealous of JEWS THAT BELIEVE IN ONE GD AND ORIGINAL CONCEPTS like MOSES
AND THUNDER AND LIGHTING AND GD TELLING US AT MT SINAII TO TELL IT TO YOUR CHILDREN THAT ''YOU HEARD ME AND YOU 'SAW' ME AND YOU ARE A WITNESS FOREVER AND EVER.
IF I WAS TO WRITE A TORAH MYSELF maybe i would do it different. If i was to write one I would make it 4 tablets maybe 5...
ONE FOR WOMAN
one for men
one for gay
one for wackos
one for poor people
one for rich people
one for politicians
...THAT WOULD BE TO HEAVY FOR MOSES TO CARRY..
BUT THEN MOSES COULD HIRE SOME ILLEGAL ALIENS TO CARRY THE TABLETS...
Gee thats another problem..
then Moses would have to get a bigger camera crew to film and refilm all these changes in the movie '10 commandments''
THESE WOMAN..ALWAYS STARTING TROUBLE.....
what happened to woman I READ ABOUT IN THE TORAH..I read so many good things about those woman....WELL I WENT IN A COMPLETE CIRCLE...
TODAY THEY SAID
''lets do it''
its never been done so lets do it''
lets us make god the way we like him to be'''
''let us build a golden calf'.........
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7. All this effort could been spent a lot
better by doing someting good for jewish people, instead of being involved in questionable activities with unknown outcome.
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8. Women scribes
What an inspiring project and what pathetic responses so far (1,2,4)! Without women, Moses would have drowned, Ishmael would have preceded Isaac and Esau would have been our ancestor. Let's give the ladies a little credit!
| Dr. Helen , |
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9. No female sofrei STA"M
There are no male Reform/Reconstructionist sofrei STA"M either. What an embarrassment this must be for them. Or not.
Do these righteous ladies attend mikvah? Are they aware that the halachah requires even selling the Torah scrolls in order to build a mikvah?
| Sara , |
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10. Now I am confused
I thought judaism was a unified religion, now I see that there are schisms just like in the Catholic / Christion religion.
On one hand it is illegal in Jerusalem for a woman to carry a Torah or wear a Tallit (6 months in Jail or nis10,000 fine.) and in America women make their own Torah.
Why couldn't the americans get a Torah anyway? Are they in short supply.
| Paul , |
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11. DR HELEN.YOU ARE CORRECT AND YOU PROVED MY POINT
WOMAN HAVE A DISTINCT ROLE IN JUDAISM
AND MEN HAVE A DISTINCT ROLE
AND BOTH ARE BLESSED BY THE ONE GD OF ISRAEL TO FULFILL
''GDS' PLANS''
Now those woman want to cross roles.....
thus upsetting the plan
how do I Know?
because THOSE WOMAN SAID IT THEMSELFS..
''ITS NEVER BEEN DONE''
TORAH doesn't need reconstruction
WE NEED IT !
TO THE WAYS THAT
WE KNEW IT AND KNOW IT AND
WILL ALWAYS RECEIVE IT
UNADULTERATED,UNEDITED.
JEWS HAVE TO KNOW WHAT GD WANTS
not what those woman want.
JEWS HAVE TO BE
SPIRITUALLY REUNITED WITH
THE GD OF ISRAEL THROUGH
LEARNING FROM A TORAH ORTHODOX RABBI / REBBETZIN.
DACON9
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12. the other side
it is a good idea to know the deepest thought of female because we only know the male side and the world has the other side that we should know the truth i would like what is really inside the female mind it would be interesting to grow up to really know each other because i know the male thought i am one of them and i am really exhausted of fighting (who is more than whom,male for one side and female on the other side) i want to mix both of them at the end we are the same just human beings but differents sex
| cristian , |
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13. #1 how about opening your mind
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14. #9 how about opening your mind also
and you call yourself jewish .....go join the catholic church or the taliban
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15. #11 can you see how stupid you sound?
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16. except they don’t want their names publicized
This is a real shame on us all that a Hebrew would once again be in fear and oppressed not by Egypt but by a cult.
To speak freely about Torah and how it is written has these men scared. A violation of the shmah and an opression cleerly against Torah and G-d. How can we be a light to the nation when we fear somone in our ranks will harm us for spreading the joy of Torah?
I weep. We have been hijacked and voluntarily assist the hijackers like jack-bot thugs. I guess we have been returned on the road to slavery as the clelot describe. Mental slavery.
As far as the women holding hands with the fathers, possibly they should learn that this book did not exist in their time.
She should have said something about G-d rather than ghost souls, no? after all in Devarim she should have read that this Torah is about love. Bcol avtacha bcol levvecha, bcol nafshecha.
Not with their fathers did G-d seal this covenant but with those Gerim Hebrew slaves that stood on the mountain before God and received his Law.
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17. DACON9 maspik - It is great anyone writes Torah!
"THE REASON PORK IS NOW KOSHER IS"
Torah forbids eating pig. It doesn’t say anywhere women cannot teach or write Torah, in fact it is a required mitzvah to teach it to children, speak of it on your way, etc. It is required to write it on the doorpost of your house and your gates.
You want people to violate Torah to protect the institution of Rabbis?
"WHA? WE CAN CHANGE A LETTER?
CANT ADD NOR SUBTRACT?"
That is correct, so why do you pretend these additions you promote are allowed?
"original TORAH AND RABBIS"
Rabbis are not original nor mentioned anywhere in Torah.
"AND THUNDER AND LIGHTING AND GD TELLING US AT MT SINAII"
Lightning? Maybe you should read it again.
Did we get torah on Sinai, Moriah, Plains of Moab, or is it still going today with Rabbinical additions?
"THEN MOSES COULD HIRE SOME ILLEGAL ALIENS TO CARRY THE TABLETS"
He did. They were Gerim Hebrews called Levis and they carried the tablets.
"let us build a golden calf'........."
Looks like you have. Do you have a Jainism hamsah hanging in your house?
"thus upsetting the plan"
Your plan, the Rabbis’ plans or G-d’s plans?
"LEARNING FROM A TORAH ORTHODOX RABBI / REBBETZIN"
Devarim 30:11 tells you this is not allowed to say someone has to get it for you. We are free to get it ourselves. Freedom…get it, got it, good.
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18. Women in Judaism
The religious do not seem to be able to differentiate what the Torah contains and what the Rabbis interpreted. There is no discrimination against women in the Torah, just look at Miriam, Moses’ sister for one. What the religious think is restrictions from the Torah are in fact rabbinical mandates from the Sulchan Aruch & the Mappa both codified the status of women and were set down in the 16th century. In the 21st century it is ludicrous to say “Women are feeble minded” or that women cannot be a witness. Today women hold down every sort of job and professional position including combat military positions. In the 16th century and for a long time afterward women were not educated and kept out of sight, this may explain some of the restrictions placed on women in the past. If we want Judaism to continue to survive, the rabbis must consider some updating and not just in the status of women.
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19. #18 You mean deletions?
"rabbis must consider some updating and not just in the status of women"
Devarim 4:2. No adding a word. If a rabbinical codification (laws) is added to Torah, it is a sin.
If a law by a rabbi states women can't when Torah states the must, maybe a deletion is the best way to remove several sins from Israel rather than just adding another sin against Devarim 4:2 and further complication the view of Torah.
Torah is not a cult and interpretations are based on Torah words thus in every interpretation the context and the real words should be apparent. they are not in this case of oppressing the teaching and writing of accurate versions of the Torah. Here is an oldy but goody that is not observered -You shall write them (these words) on the doorposts of your house and your gates.
People may say how can you write all these words on such a small space?, but obviously at one point it was possible so start sorting through the false additions. Egypt could manage writing their books on doorposts.
The entire Torah was given in one day (Devarim) "This day" "These words" "The entire sepher Torah" and it was no matrix upload magic, but words that fit on the doorpost.
Devarim is the only book written by Moses. Other books by some unknown author that we cannot even verify their character only that the did orginal writing and didn't quote Moses word for word which makes them violators of adding and subtracting a word. Epic fail #1 "
Also it fails our requirements to test these delivered words according to prophet validation laws Devarim 13 and 18:17 Epic fail 2
"..and God said to Moses" is second hand authorship. Hersay. No one witnessed this conversation. Epic fail 3
I say deletion is on order.
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20. Feminism
Feminism is a movement that removes the male ego and gives it to the female. I am against egotistical movements such as feminism.
As far as this article is concerned, it doesnt surprise me in the least bit that "re constructionist" Jews would do something like this. Its no different than Jews who support gay marriage eventhough its completely against the laws which they supposedly adhere to.
I look forward to the day that America & Israel end the charade that they call an "alliance" (they are both in it for selfish reasons) ..maybe then people will stop equating Judaism with Westernism.
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21. #19, I do not mean deletions
Halacha contains rulings have in fact interpreted the Torah in a way that nullifies the Torah commandment. Take for example the Torah requirement to stone to death a rebellious son; you have to read the Talmud on this point to see what the rabbis thought and what they did. The result of their discussion was to make it impossible to stone a rebellious son this they did by setting such a stringent criteria on deciding if a son is rebellious that in fact it could never happen. This is just one example. To show how the rabbis could be practical, the rule that women are exempt from a mitzvah that requires execution at certain time takes into account the taking care of the children and therefore could not be expected to drop what they were doing to perform a certain mitzvah. So what I am suggesting is that the current rabbinical establishment go back to the way Halacha was made during the Talmudic times and revisit and re-interpret anachronistic and impractical Halacha.
| Norman Gellman , |
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22. #14 what intelligence
Do you represent the feminist movement? What a sample of tolerance and intelligence.
| Sara , |
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23. #19 Josh
Join Paqid and try to open a church to your taste and to the taste of the rest of Israel’s residents suffering from Jerusalem syndrome.
What you are trying to convey is not Judaism,whether you please it or not.
Quit insisting,because this is only annoying and shows your total disconnection to Torah and to Jewish people,besides shooting an outraging ignorance at the face of anyone taking a look in your insanities.
Stop it,and ,if possible,get out of here!
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24. #19 n 21.LIKE OBAMA.I DIDNT UNDERSTAND A WORD SOUNDED NICE,
#19 n 21
LIKE PRES. OBAMA....
I DIDNT UNDERSTAND A WORD, SOUNDED NICE,
BUT ALWAYS ENDS UP WRONG
JOSH:
you should start the building fund,
BEFORE YOU START YOUR NEW RELIGION
NORMAN:
you need a new rabbi that can translate and relate to todays problems. Your problem is your rabbi, if you have one
WELL BACK TO SPIDERMAN COMICS......
THE NEW ISSUE CAME OUT....
BUT JOSH AND NORMAN,
ITS BEEN FUN
now I have enough to fertilize my garden
Thanks,
DACON9
EMAIL:jewswithviews@gmail.com
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25. doen't seem to me you actually follow God anyway...?
Not one!
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26. #21 Deleting Torah and disconection to torah
"that nullifies the Torah commandment." :-(
Proof of violating and teaching that it is ok to violate Devarim 4:2. Sounds like the false New Testament if I didn't know it was from the Rabbis i would think someone like that tax collector Matthew wrote it.
Put all those books in the same pile.
Will see if they were right when the next round of war visits our nation.
Meanwhile kids shoot up schools, stab students for not being Jewish, murder babies, beat parents with bats, rape, torture, rob, run over, and take the place of the criminal class.
I think you point out the folly of not understanding what evil is capable of.
Shmah Israel rummor has it a man thinks he can override G-d and his curse that a child will turn soft and against his parents.
Who will win this one? not that the rumblings a half a world of Muslims.
"shows your total disconnection to Torah " combined to Rabbis "that nullifies the Torah commandment."
Yeah you're winning that argument.
How much did they pay you?
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27. A womens place is in the home
raising children and serving her husband end of.
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