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Iran decision now
Yoaz Hendel
Published: 10.02.10, 11:23
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1. Dear Yoaz Hendel, simple: leave our homes = Peace
Palestinians   (02.10.10)
2. Beres: ''Concluding the sanctions comedy''
Terry ,   Eilat, Israel   (02.10.10)
Before writing any comment on this article, I would suggest reading the following article by Louis Rene Beres, ''Concluding the sanctions comedy.'' which can be found in the opinion section of The Washington Times.
3.  "A LOOK INTO THE FUTURE "!!!.
Arn. ,   SWEDEN.   (02.10.10)
TAKE HESEKIEL CHAPTER 38-39 IN WIEV OF THIS TOPIC. WY IS IRAN/PERSIA ALIED WITH GOG AND MAGOG. SURELY ACCORDING TO THIS PROPHESY, IRAN IS NOT HER OWN MASTER OR COMANDER IN CHIEF. WY IS THAT SO ???. THERE CAN BE NO OTHER EXPLANANATION TO THIS, I-"THAN IRAN WAS FORCED TO THIS"-. WY ???. THERE CAN BE NO OTHER EXPLANATION TO THIS THAN, IRAN WAS STRIKED A MILITARY BLOW, THAT DEPRIVED HER OF ALL NESSESSARY MEANS , TO CONTINUE HER HOSTILITY AGAINST ISRAEL ON HER OWN Iran decision now Israeli strike on Iran may be crucial to our future despite its painful price A war with Iran and its allies would cause Israeli fatalities; hundreds of soldiers and citizens may be killed and the pain will be immense. Yet despite this, such war will not jeopardize the future and will not put the State of Israel’s existence to the test. The continuation of the current policy indeed produces a safe present for us citizens, yet it blurs the existence of such future. AMEN. Arn...
4. 1967
Israeli ,   Israel   (02.10.10)
Peace between Israel and Palestine would neutralize the poisonous sting of Iran's hatred for Israel and shatter the political-imaginative mechanism that makes it see Israel as "the little Satan".
5. To: Israeli at No. 4
Sarah B ,   U.S.A. / Israel   (02.10.10)
Doubtful. Peace (however cold) between Egypt and Israel had no effect. Peace (equally cold) between Jordan and Israel had no effect. Iran is interested only in wiping Israel from the map. It has spent a great deal of money funding Hamas and Hizbollah in an effort to achieve precisely that. Iran’s goal is an unbroken sea of Islam from the tip of northwestern Africa to the port of Chittagong. They’ll worry about making it a Shi’ite sea down the road. It took Iran ten long years and half a million lives to achieve a shamefaced draw against a vastly inferior Iraqi military. Israel cannot count on the rest of the world’s pathetic talk about "crippling sanctions." You may recall that Israel waited eight years for a diplomatic solution to Iraq's nuclear ambitions. Those failed, and Israel had to undertake the task of neutralizing Iraq's nuclear program. Which it did to great effect. It won't be easy, but Israel will have to undertake to put an end to Iran's nuclear dreams. The Iranian leadership is, simply put, completely nuts. The longer we wait, the costlier it will be. And I think Israel just may discover it has strong support from some very unexpected quarters that, for political reasons, must remain silent. We already know that an air corridor over Iraq will not be necessary – the Saudis and the Emirates have offered their airspace and refueling services. The very survival of civilization is at stake. Shall we wait until those crazy mullahs turn six billion people into unwilling shaheed? I think not.
6. maybe obama can help
(02.10.10)
if a large scale war breaks out involving israel, iran and hezbollah, then iran would certainly suffer a lot of damage, but i do not believe that the americans would let israel use nuclear weapons. however, israelis would suffer the first really bad attacks on their home territory ever. tens, perhaps hundreds of thousands of missiles would hit israel. what if dimona were damaged? apart from the infrastructure and human damage, what would be the effect on israelis morale? they would be given the worst shock in the history of the state. FINALLY, AN EXISTENTIAL WAR. in that situation, i believe that many israelis would head off on the first available boat (ben gurion would be closed). how many israelis have more than one passport? is it 40 per cent or more? would the israeli leadership risk this war which they seem to be talking up? probably, because they know that the longer they leave it, the stronger iran's missile forces will become. there really is no nuclear threat from iran and the israelis know it. what they fear is the missile threat and strategic equality. what other choice have they? only to make peace with the palestinians, but that would involve civil war with the settlers. perhaps obama can shepherd the israeli through to real security. hameed aboughaze, iranian
7. As a Zionist, I say don't bomb
myron Ernst ,   USA   (02.10.10)
Although I am a staunch Zionist, I am of the opinion that it would be a terrible mistake for Israel to bomb Iran. I say this because in the near future, after much bloodshed and after the mad Ayatollahs are overthrown, there will emerge a new Iran that will no longer support Israel's terrorist enemies, and that will probably revert to a neutral or even friendly relationship with Israel. By bombing Iran, this evolution will not be possible. The only answer for Israel vis-a vis Iran's nuclear weapons is a strong defense against them.
8. Israel destroys itself due to the wingnuts...
BBSNews ,   Charlotte, NC   (02.10.10)
...what are you waiting for? Give Sarah B. EXACTLY what she wants, an Israel destroyed and in ruins. This smarmy little armchair warrior will be nice and safe in the United States while Israel destroys itself. She will laugh maniacally in delight when the first ballistic missiles come raining down, most making it through because "Iron Dome" is hopeless and not even operational. She writes about the Osirak reactor and thinks the attack was "successful" - that it made Israel safer. How come Israel is not safe then? That was 1981... 29 years has passed and Israel still fears for it's very life. Is is because of "mad mullahs"? Nope. It is the whackos, the wingnuts, the complete idiots like Sarah B. who want to see Israel destroyed, so they have prevented a fair and just peace deal that would give Israel peace. My friends, it is the Sarah B.'s that are after the destruction of Israel. By all means, make Sarah B. happy, launch an ill-fated attack on Iran and watch as your country is destroyed and Sarah B. will be handing out candy and dancing, deliriously happy because she got to help.
9. Doinf nothing will be more costly
DT ,   TA Israel   (02.10.10)
The price of sitting back and "hoping " that Iran will never be a nuclear power wil be far more costly than exercising the military option- the sooner the better.
10. TALKBACK NUMBER 3.
Arn. ,   SWEDEN.   (02.10.10)
Psalm 47 (21st Century King James Version) Psalm 47 1O clap your hands, all ye people! Shout unto God with the voice of triumph! 2For the LORD Most High is to be feared; He is a great King over all the earth. 3He shall subdue the people under us, and the nations under our feet. 4He shall choose our inheritance for us, the excellency of Jacob whom He loved. Selah 5God has gone up with a shout, the LORD with the sound of a trumpet. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PrCal6kE-r4 Arn.
11. TALKBACK NUMBER 4.
Arn. ,   SWEDEN.   (02.10.10)
Peace between Israel and Palestine would neutralize the poisonous sting of Iran's hatred for Israel and shatter the political-imaginative mechanism that makes it see Israel as "the little Satan". Israeli , Israel (02.10.10) IT WILL NOT !!!.' IT IS THEIR SHIA-ISLAMIC FAITH, BELIVING IN THE SHIA-ISLAMIC PROPHESIES, THAT THEIR MESSIAH. AL-MAHDI CALLED, SHALL RULE IN JERUSALEM, WHICH ARE THE CAUSE OF THEIR HATRED. AND PROFANELY TO SPEAK, TALKBACKER NUMBER 5., ARE RIGHT ON THE POINT. Arn.
12. TALKBACK NUMBER 8.
Arn. ,   SWEDEN.   (02.10.10)
It is the whackos, the wingnuts, the complete idiots like Sarah B. who want to see Israel destroyed, so they have prevented a fair and just peace deal that would give Israel peace NUTS LIKE THIS ONE NEVER LEARN DO THEY ???. ISRAEL HAD NO PEACE IN 1947., PROCLAMING ITS INDEPENDENCE, ISRAEL HAS SINCE NEVER HAD ANY CHANSE TO WHAT THIS ONE CALLES - A FAIR PEACE SURELY THIS ONE IS OF THE SORT LENIN CALLED USEFULL IDIOTS. Arn..
13. #10, WHEN MASHIACH ARRIVES.KJV IS NOT PERMITTED IN ZION
........DACON9   (02.10.10)
14. To: No. 8
Sarah B ,   U.S.A. / Israel   (02.10.10)
The United States would have had quite a different Gulf War in 1991 had Israel not destroyed the Osirac reactor. Just think of all the American servicemen and women that did not come home in body bags because Israel neutralized Iraq's reactor. Forgot about that, did you? Not surprising. You have a very peculiar notion of history and a fungible sense of geopolitical reality. What you clearly fail to understand is that Israel's enemies -- which are legion -- will stop at nothing to destroy Israel. What would you have Israel do? Roll over and die? That's not going to happen. Two thousand years have taught us that we can only be safe in our own country. I don't particularly care about the reasons for the hatred of Jews -- I do know that it exists and has manifested itself in brutal and devastating ways. The Holocaust may have been the last of it, but hardly the least of it. It is incumbent upon Israel to see to its own survival. We’ve learned that the hard way. We will do what is necessary to ensure our survival, and to hell with the fallout (no pun intended). You can characterize this however you choose. Makes no never mind to us.
15. to #1
Yoss ,   Canada   (02.10.10)
there are no "palestinians" and the thing call 'your homes' are places where you're squatting...you're just another breed of arab squatters squatting on Jewish land...
16. to #1
OZ   (02.10.10)
right back at you..LEAVE OUR HOMES AND LAND AND YOU CAN LIVE IN PEACE ANYWHERE BUT HERE......
17. TALKBACK NUMBER 13.
Arn. ,   SWEDEN.   (02.10.10)
AS FAR AS I REMEMBER, THE OUTER COURT OF THE TEMPLE, ARE FOR THE GOYIM. SO WHAT DO YOU MEAN ???. Arn.
18. #15 & 16
Seehel   (02.10.10)
according to Zionist's g-d the Golden calf?
19. sarah b.
kate ,   atlanta USA   (02.10.10)
you are clearly correct, but in this country Israel's enemies would be pleased to see our own troops come home in bodybags. Reagan knew that only militarily strong countries saw peace.
20. #17 GOYEEM DOES NOT MEAN OTHER gods and beliefs in such
............DACON9   (02.10.10)
It says those that accept the ONE GD OF ISRAEL 2nd commandment have no other gods before me. .there is none other then me there is none besides me I alone SHEMA YISRAEL ADON OLAM ONE ONE ONE AND FOREVER ONE Do you think that GD will go against HIS WORDS? OR DO YOU THINK GD CAN MAKE A MISTAKE THE ONE GD OF ISRAEL openinly declares who HIS favorites are..who HIS prophets are THe **ONE GD OF ISRAEL..never alluded who his leaders will be GD never hinted never coded GD SAID OPENLY EVGERYTHING SO ALL THE WORLD WILL KNOW THAT **HE** ALONE IS OUR GD. that "HE" took us out of egypt the oiuter court has nothing to do with your statement of kjv either you intentionally or ignorantly blurred the issues to have a share in the world to come the rules are clearly given YOU WILL SERVE THE ONE GD OF ISRAEL AND NONE OTHER No idols no ghosts and no sons THE REFERENCE OF ISRAEL BEING ''HIS'' FIRST BORN SON WAS AGAINA CLEARLY SPOKEN.. YOU ISRAEL WILL BE LIKE MY FIRST BORN SON AND YOU WILL BE CALLED ISRAEL, FOR ALL THE NATIONS TO FOLLOW YOU. IN CONCLUSION: if you hope to get to the next world as a righteous gentile you better learn what you need to do to get there.... and when. learn the noahide laws read the following 1) Path of the rghteous gentile 2) 7 colors of the rainbow 3) To be a Jew by R' Donin Thank You, DACON9 EMAIL:jewswithviews@gmail.com
21. To: Kate at No. 19
Sarah B ,   U.S.A. / Israel   (02.10.10)
Kate, for better or for worse -- and whether all parties realize it or not -- the United States and Israel are joined at the hip. We both want peace. We both want a world free of hatred, discrimination and violence. The tricky part is achieving it. As a citizen of both the United States and Israel, I cannot think of any other countries with which I am prouder to be associated. Politics aside, I think most Americans and Israelis would agree that our vision is the most workable one. Thank you for your compliment. I am proud to be Jewish, American and Israeli. I do not think I shall ever have to decide among the three.
22. TALKBACK NUMBER 20.
Arn. ,   SWEDEN.   (02.10.10)
I HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH THAT. BUT I DO NOT KNOW WHAT YOU MEN BY KJV IN YOUR TALKBACK NUMBER 13, AS INTO SOMETHING STANDING AGAINST MY TALKBACK NUMBER 10. TO ME YOU SEEM TO KICK IN OPEN DORS. AS FAR AS I AM CONCERNED MY GOD IS - "Adonaj JEHOWAH Elohim Sebaot", AND , "Messias Adonaj JEHOWAH Elohin Sebaot" , IS MY CHRIST, EVEN CALLED JESUS. DOES THIS MAKE ANY SENSE TO YOU ???. Arn. ..
23. Clarity from Sarah B #4 and Yoaz Hendel
Robert ,   USA   (02.11.10)
I know we seem to sit safely here in the US while Israeli's risk it all, but that does not mean we would not be there if we could. We will do all we can to support Israel in her coming conflict with Iran.. it will come, just not clear who will start it.
24. WW3 Begin's
Ken ,   Australia   (02.11.10)
Why do the most important wars on this planet always entail the jewish Nation and the extermination of the jewish people. This Phenomena is an insane trait of the world. For hitler the start of the process was based on the outcome for germany in WW1. The germans had insisted it was the jews in america that were to blame for the germans defunkt economy. The jewish Bankers. What I am leading towards is a simple analogy about historic jewish rights after WW11. We do have the right to attack those who oppose our existance and we all know the islamic position. According to Kohmeni, the jewish people must be exterminated, remember what happened when hitler said this at the wannese conference, the similarity is exact in there intension, there is no difference. So back then, the start of WW11 with the jews in the middle, and now the start of WW111 with the jews targeted, so another utopian dream can begin, according to the iranians.
25. Wage a War of Words
Ivan Opinion ,   Somewhere USA   (02.11.10)
Why don't you Israelis try a completely different tactic??? With the help of your Christian friends in the US, let's shame the Iranians into silence and away from nuclear whatever by taking up a very vocal collection to buy generators and solar panels for the poor, chronic-blackout-suffering Iranian people. How many are there? 10 million? Times 400 dollars each is only 4 billion dollars. Jerry Lewis could raise more money than that in a weekend. They can at least buy their own gasoline to run the new generators we just bought. Once the world sees that "nuclear power" is a bunch of nonsense, and that it is just a smokescreen for developing weapons, like YOU've been saying, then we Christians will be able to say, "Isn't that just exactly what the Jews have been saying all along?!?" Think about it. The best weapon is media. Use Iran's own media against them. And remind them that the same guy who's been shooting them from balconies now wants a nuke.
26. Israel MUST destroy Iran's nukes and very soon.
Chaim ,   Israel   (02.11.10)
It boggles the mind that some people, who claim to love Israel, argue against destroying Iran's nukes. Such a position is senseless and dangerous. Iran's nukes, and the Mad Mullahs who control them, are a direct existential threat to Israel. The Mad Mullahs have made no attempt even to hide their intent to use them against Israel. Israel MUST destroy Iran's nukes and very soon.
27. #23 Robert. You are NOT safe in the USA.
Chaim ,   Israel   (02.11.10)
Robert, I applaud your message of solidarity with Israel. However, if you are Jewish, your feelings of safety in America are delusional. First of all, America is undergoing the same basic changes as nations like France. A declining Jewish population and an exploding youthful Moslem population guarantee very troubled times ahead in the U.S., as in France. Moreover, the only reason Jews are safe in the U.S. is because of Israel. Without a strong Israel, American Jews would be no more secure than American or European Jews in the 1930s. Obviously European Jews had it worse but things were getting bad for U.S. Jews as well. It was America's entry into WW II which likely saved American Jews.
28. Terry,2#, Eilat,
Judah ,   Golan Heights,ISRAEL   (02.11.10)
Terry, its good to see you back on Ynet. Lately I have only read your emails on Jpost. We finally have a much better government(Bib/Lieberman) after the horrible Olmert years. Yet will this government do what it needs to do and attack Iran's nuclear facilities???
29. War
Steve Richnond ,   michigan- usa   (02.11.10)
We need to remember that with war, it is not about who is right or wrong, but who is left. All else is meaningless. What is truth, and what is history will be written by the survivors. You would think that no one would know this better than the Sons of Israel.
30. #6 Hameed
Hal ,   Usa   (02.13.10)
#6 Hameed, while I generally agree with your assesments, I have to disaggree this time. First, hundres of thousands of missles hitting Israel would be a gross overstatement. Second, if and this is a big if, the Iranians could hit Israel with even tens or twenties of missles, after years of being hit by Iranian proxys like Hezsbollah with Iranian supplied missles, no one, I repeat no one will stop Israel from burying Iran in a nuclear cloud. Third, even Israel's closest enemies know how far they might go before they will not be able to stop Israel from blotting them out. I truely hope this is all rhetorical nonsense and cooler heads prevail. However, the words "Never Again" are not rhetoric! Peace Hameed!
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