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Most Jews: National interest exceeds human rights
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Published: 19.02.10, 10:32
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1. I wonder
Israel Israeli ,   Tel Aviv   (02.19.10)
what the answer would be, not to some vague out-of-context question but to a clear question like "do you consider accepting payment from a foreign government to give false testimony that Israel committed war crimes to be treason"
2. treason?
solemnman ,   israel   (02.19.10)
It's sometimes treason-but it's mostly pollyanna plaster saint syndrome or- just plain ignorance unadorned with reality/.
3. Israel as a state and Israelis are engaged regularly in
Eitan ,   Qatzrin, Israel   (02.19.10)
criticism and in fact welcome it. Yet, when the criticism of Israel is done obsessively, loaded with venom and hate and designed to demonize Israel's very existence, to de-legitimize it and to expect of it to adhere to standards not expected of any other country, then we question the motive of such criticism. Sadly, more often than not much of the criticism that we, Israelis, hear and read in the international media - newspapers, TV, radio, books, conventions, etc. - tend to include, if not be exclusive, the type used by those whose intent is to see the demise of Israel, the annihilation of this tiny nation-state of the Jewish people and a member state of the United Nations Shouldn't we, therefore, be on the defensive...??
4. I remember!!!
Philip ,   Afula, Israel   (02.19.10)
When "Niloi Rosh " the greatest ever satirte program on Israeli TV appeared , many local BOK heads were shocked.Same today , nothing has changed............ By the way ,sweet memories to all those that wrote and participated in this GREAT program.
5. disclaimer: only in the context of terrorists
mike ,   israel (formerly usa   (02.19.10)
this study only makes sense and is valid when talking about dealing with the worst forms of humanity in the world: terrorists. you know, the kind that target civilian women,/children/elderly, boldly preach bloody genocide, and happily celebrate death while severely oppressing their women and minorities. normally, jews uphold and defend human rights to the death, but no in the context of genocidal, bloodthirsty terrorist maniacs. who wouldn't?
6. what is next on lebanon's complaint list???
(02.19.10)
removing a single rock from 2 inches away of the fence on the lebanese side?????? arabs, this only shows how idiotic and stupid you are. better concentrate on your status as a sovereign nation being dismantled by a terrorist militia that takes orders from another country (iran and syria) that have no interests in lebanon's sovereinity at all. hameed aboughaze, iranian
7. who sponsored the poll
frank ,   israel   (02.19.10)
polls are funny things and depending on who sponsored them, along with how the question was phrased you can get any answer you want. How else does a leftwing minority always seem to come up with polls supporting them???? Let's see the questions, let's see how they were asked, let's see who were asked the questions and of course who paid for the poll....then we can talk about its legitamacy....
8. Some criticism of Israel IS TREASON.
marlene ,   Philadelphia, USA   (02.19.10)
If the criticism supports those who want to take away the Jews' homeland, piece by piece, it certainly IS treason. Israel is at war. Support it or LEAVE it.
9. A matter of common sense
Mahlon Drumgoole ,   Newark NJ   (02.19.10)
Come on, this is not rocket science. Those who offer specific criticism of Israeli policies, like leaving Gaza or continuin g to build in the settlements are not traitors. They are exercising their rights as residents of a democratic state. Mostly everyone agrees with this type of right of legitimate free speech. However, those Israelis who are traitors are using these kinds of examples to declare that nothing is treasonous as long as they agree with it. It is interesting that so many on the left are quick to accuse critics of obvious actions against the state as McCarthyite and undemocratic. Those who give secret data to enemies, who work actively to destroy Israel as a Jewish State, those who lie and defame Israel are indeed traitors. Their actions are meant to harm the state.
10. Ha ha ...
Juan ,   Spain - Europe   (02.19.10)
Methinks that Israel needs a "1st amendment" - long live the truth and free speech.
11. Pollsters
Michael ,   Haifa   (02.19.10)
More and more surveys are asking progressively sillier questions
12. It's Your Necks in the Nooses
Dav Lev ,   Burbank. CAUSA   (02.19.10)
Okay, okay, enough is enough. For starters, Israel's policies are like Jeckel and Hyde..very changeable. I questioned Olmert/Livni's appeasement policy, and wishful thinking. Am I a traitor? I liked Bibi then, and like him now, but was against Wye and giving up the Arab city before reciprocity. Am I a traitor? And besides, as an American born Zionist Jew, what influence do "I" have? I support AIPAC, ZOA, Z Street, Camera, but am lukewarm about Birthright Israel. I am an activist for a 2 state solution: Israel's Allon Plan and Jordan. Allow the Pales autonomy with restraints...(BTW, the Arab-leftist-Internation protests "things to come", if Israel relinquishes more land. "Still not enough" is the Arab goal, until Tel Aviv, Haifa and W. Jerusalem. Get it! To Israel: in 50 years, make a decision about land for peace. Let us speak our minds..but it's YOUR NECKS on the line, NOT ours.
13. Israeli and Diaspora Jews Can Speak
Dav Lev ,   Burbank. CAUSA   (02.19.10)
To Marlene: Isn't part of the problem Israel's changing attitudes and policies, as well as having 10 parties? I mean like it or not, Meretz and Labor ARE legitimate. Many people supported Labor or the central party (with some Likud members). Some Israelis and Americans likes Olmert/Livni/Barak, who almost gave the ship away. Barak was a good solderis but an aweful leader and politician, besides being a fool. Sharon thought returning Gaza would foster peace. Sure and I'll sell you the Washington Bridge. Now Bibi, who has red lines. seems to have matured..and say little. Lieberman is his hit man...and doesn't justify his reality. Bottom line: Israel is at war. The Jews are at war. Its time we all woke up to that plain fact. But freedom to speak is not treason, unless ONE commits treason. If Israel is rattled, declare marshal law. and enforce controls. US Jews have a right to speak their minds..as do Israelis...Or mute both.
14. THIS POLL IS A BLATANT LIE! The opposite is true!
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15. yeah right....500 leftists polled from Tel Aviv!
JAy3 ,   Israel   (02.19.10)
16. Who funds "WAR and PEACE"index
ray ,   USA   (02.19.10)
17. Some support for Israeli is also treason
DB ,   London   (02.19.10)
Extreme loyalty to faith and ideology works both ways: just as extreme leftism can sometimes lead to treason, so can extreme rightism.
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