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Report: German passport used by Dubai hit squad not forged
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Published: 21.02.10, 00:00
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1. very strange: der SPIEGEL says something else
german israeli   (02.20.10)
you quote der SPIELGE, but it says that the pass was issued in COLOGNE itself in in EARLY SUMMER 2009. You say, he requested it in Tel Aviv in late 2008, which is not written at any place in the spiegel article! http://www.spiegel.de/politik/ausland/0,1518,679223,00.html
2. :: What a mess!!
Matty Groves ,   Fairport   (02.20.10)
Wow! Mossad really $crewed this one up big time. Traceable via passports/credit cards/cell phones/captured on CCTV/etc. The only thing they didn’t do was write “Mozzah woz ‘ere” on the hotel room mirror. I am sure they are the butt of many a joke in certain quarters. Talk about amateurish! I would imagine that several posters here where shouting their admiration without understanding what a cock up this is. Still the buck stops with Meir Dagan, if he had any honor he would resign before he is pushed. It will be interesting to see if any more embarrassing new evidence comes to light over the next while...
3. Mabhouh might sacrifice his life to decipher Mossad agents
Tayfun_Turkey ,   Istanbul   (02.20.10)
Perhaps Mabhouh might sacrifice his life to decipher So many Mossad agents at once. His death is a sucess story in Hamas side. And it will be better understood soon in Israeli side as well Now Germany: What will do Germany to ensure There is no Zionist double passport holder or Zionist agents under German Passports shall not repeate the same? 1. Expose to Public, Zionist Germant serving in IDF 2. Deport those Zionist agents dwelled in Germany using German Passports 3. Prosecute Zionist organization That will ensure muslim backlash on Germany will not happen
4. well well, israeli terrorists caught
Paco ,   Canada   (02.20.10)
on tape, Israel is further isolating itself from the world! anyone blind can see that israel seeks no peace.
5. You are right #1
Atheist Turk ,   Germany   (02.20.10)
Der Spiegel claims, Bodenheimer applied for German travel documents in Cologne by himself. Not a single word of embassy in TA. What did ynet smoke, today?
6. #2 You understanding how Mossad operates
Yaniv ,   Israel   (02.20.10)
is as much likely as dogs reading newspapers. You are the simpleton intellect, believing everything you read in media, as long as it fits your Israel hating agenda. Never once did you speculate that this information might be bogus, intended for Dubai to regain some credibility, after failing to prevent this hit? The fact that you blindly believe Mossad revealing their identity without disguise or would enter at the lobby or where there's a camera, just proves who's the real amateur. Hope some day your big ego and self-opinion could match your intellect.
7. :: Messy mess indeed!
Matty Groves ,   Fairport   (02.20.10)
I feel so sorry for them, my beloved Terrorists are on the run, what a mess!
8. report: german
debbie ,   israel   (02.20.10)
MATTY GROVES, You are such a joke, what a loser you are. You are just chomping at the bits to find any little excuse to bash Israel. It would absolutely kill you to admit that the operation was a success: The eleven arrived in Dubai, killed the criminal terrorist, left Dubai quietly according to plan and have not been caught. WOW! The Dubai police found that the passports were forged!! WOW, however did they discover that???? What else do you need, in order to finally admit that the Israelis (if they were involved at all) succeeded???? You are so so so predictable MATTY GROVES. And don't hold your breath - no one is about to resign. (except for you, hopefully).
9. @ matty
israeli   (02.20.10)
it was planned to be a pr mission, so no failure here of mossad
10. #2
Harold ,   USA   (02.20.10)
Not only Dagan should resign his boss Netanyahu and those who are denying such Liberman and Ayalon, have to resign. Moreover they have to be arrested by the International Police for murder and identity theft.
11. Well done Dubai police.......
Marco ,   Spain   (02.20.10)
You get an A+ for this investigation. You really did put the Mossad in its proper place: The trash bin that is.....
12. I beginning to suspect this was join Mossad-Hamas operation.
leo ,   usa   (02.20.10)
13. # 8
Birdi ,   Israel   (02.20.10)
Sure Debbie it would absolutely kill Matty Groves to admit the operation was a success. He cant because one of his heros was liquidated. The world still does not know who is responsible for the Dubai hit, so all you Israel basher are merely speculating.
14.  who do it or dude it to who?
meyer ,   israel/crown heights   (02.21.10)
at first glance i thought i saw peter sellers coming out of the closet in a sheitel? then this terrific looking women [ i love ponies] comes in and out of my life. this is a spoof right, a farce right? i love jewish humor.
15. Eyewear
Adam ,   UK / Israel   (02.20.10)
You'd thing these people would be issued with better eyewear. Looks like they have all worn the same pair of ridiculous glasses for the photos.
16. :: Yaniv/Debbie
Matty Groves ,   Fairport   (02.20.10)
I would bother to reply properly but I am to busy laughing my ass off at the negative publicity that Israel has, yet again, heaped upon itself. Worldwide headlines: “Israel/Mossad murder Hamas member”. Top marks on such a subtle job, yep really operating under the radar - can’t wait to see the movie. What a joke!!
17. genuine passport; the least any oleh pays for citizenship
observer   (02.20.10)
18. Hamas low-life dead. Dubai got nothing, except fantasies.
Yaniv ,   Israel   (02.21.10)
19. forged passport
dan   (02.21.10)
to all of you hypocrites complaining about forged passports: The terrorist eliminated was traveling with a forged passport!!! hahahahahaha
20. 8,1 Surely success would not to expose Mossad
lydia ,   Brisbane   (02.21.10)
Surely success is not exposure of Mossad's MO ex parte judicial assassination. By no stretch of the imagination can success generate more negative PR than Mossad's attempted murder of Khalid Mashaal. NZ cutting of diplomatic relation with Israel for illegally using their passports is not success. Neither is success memory of 9/11and the funny business with those passports that survived the inferno.
21. #16 You can't reply because you dug a hole for yourself
Yaniv ,   Israel   (02.21.10)
Only socialists, fascists and islamic imperialists find the Dubai propaganda trustworthy. Even if Israel gets credit for it, it's a win/'win for Israel. If you had an education and knew something about history, you would know that the Jewish people, were never as popular than today, just because of our army and intelligence service. Strength and survival begets more respect than pity and victimhood. Our enemies might hate us, but they'll think twice before attacking us, which was never the case when we were stateless. This is the best the Jewish people has ever had it, so the joke's on you and your fellow haters.
22. Dubai Keystone cops show and tell
Shaul R ,   USA/Australia   (02.21.10)
The whole Dubai investigation is a farce. Right away Dubai police stated they want to "quickly conclude the investigation" and began finger pointing at Israel before getting a single shred of evidence. As for evidence, we were shown copies of 11 passport photos and some blurry cctv footage. All of these could have been easily faked in the three weeks since the assassination. Even if the photos/film are authentic, all the evidence so far is circumstantial, at best, and in no way proves anything conclusively. The names of supposed "Israeli agents" were revealed before any sort of investigation into their identities took place, whilst the names of the two Palestinians arrested were being withheld "in order to protect them." Hmmm... now why would Dubai police reveal names of private individuals, whose identities were "borrowed", thereby subjecting them to the clear and present danger of bloody revenge attacks, whilst protecting the identities of Palestinians already in custody? Incidentally, perhaps UK and Ireland should be complaining to Dubai about endangering their "citizens" rather than pester Israel with their insinuations. Then there are silly proclamations, such as "99% certain Mossad did it." This is a highly unprofessional and very questionable practice. How does Dubai police come up with a 99% figure? I am curious what kind of algorithm do they use to quantify their degree of certainty? Are they sure it isn't 82%, or 43%, or, perhaps, 1%? The point is, unless they can say with 100% certainty and base it on conclusive evidence, it is all pure speculation and they can state any degree of certainty they want. No serious professional police force would go in front of cameras and speculate, esp. in a highly sensitive international case with major potential repercussions, such as this one. In fact, all the behavior of Dubai police so far has been highly unprofessional whilst their methods of investigation and dissemination of information betray an obvious agenda and open them up to some serious libel and slander lawsuits. The "facts" they have presented so far can only satisfy those who have made up their minds already, like our supremacist friends Marco, Paco, MG/F and their ilk.
23. Hello Talkbackers
Frankie Littlehammer ,   New Herstal, TX, US   (02.21.10)
Marco from Spain: Hamas has alrady set the re-ceconquista of Spain as their next goal. That must make you really happy. Turkiish Atheist: your antisemitism shows you're still a Muslim at heart. 15 Million Turks and Arabs moved to Europe but they cannot accept the Jewish state. Muslims have more rights than others. Forged Passport - Good joke, but that's the whole point. Arabs may use false passports, murder and rape (except pregnant women) because they're above common law. Matty Groves - Sickness and Diseases Get You Down.
24. #18 yaniv "dubai got nothing"
eporue ,   europe   (02.21.10)
in contrary to what dubai police and papers are dreaming of, the planners and agents were fully aware of cctv. they knew in advance, the whole operation would be revealed. all of it: the agents, and every step taken. it was just a matter of time. what plan would one choose, under these preconditions ? (a) it would be most important to NOT reveal any sophisticated strategies/actions to the "other side". whatever they will see, it mustnt give away anything of importance about the operational work. (b) make it as difficult as possible, to prove murder. murder by suffocation is quite perfect. its often impossible to prove, its silent. dubai doesnt have crime-scene pics, they dont have the murder weapon. because the room was cleaned as usual, and the pillow disposed of. this plan fully worked as designed. and it was the best plan to choose for this operation (its aim and location). yes, yaniv: "dubai got nothing"
25. Mossad?????
Uzi ,   Israel   (02.21.10)
So, Dubai, Hammas, Britain, Germany, France, PA, anybody???? Lets see proof that it was the Mossad that did this worthwhile job. Please , proof!!!! Till then , keep on barking and barking, little puppies.
26. Gentlemen: Matty, Marco/Paco, Harold, Tayfun
Cynthia ,   USA   (02.21.10)
30 days later. What evidence? Spit it out boys. Perhaps you can teach the Mossad some new tricks and offer more entertainment.
27. PROUD OF THE MOSSAD AND PRIME MINISTER
Yitzchak ,   Tel Aviv, Israel   (02.21.10)
As a Jew and an Israeli who lives in Israel, and doesn't preach from abroad, I am very proud that our guys knocked one bad terrorist. Congratulations to the Mossad, Meir Dagan and Prime Minister Netanyahu on a JOB WELL DONE. Let the world know that WE did it and are proud of it and would do it again against any terrorist that kills Jews or Israelis.
28. to #16 and othe rcountries don't have those kind
ghostq   (02.21.10)
of org? just wondering what would you call the MI6, who arrest Muslims on weekly basis or the different Feds, mmm you sound a tad spacy, just because you don't read it on the news it doesn't mean they don't do the same, just a year ago the head of MI5 was let go cause on of the paparatzi revel by accident the list of Future Paki people who were suppose to be arrested. in other words you r the joke.
29. To: No. 16
Sarah B ,   U.S.A. / Israel   (02.21.10)
I'm sorry, but could you clarify? Are you suggesting that a known terrorist directly responsible for the deaths of hundreds and a known international arms trafficker actually has a right to exist which is superior to the rights of his hundreds of dead victims and the thousands of potential victims of his arms trafficking activities? Is that what you're saying?
30. To: No. 20
Sarah B ,   U.S.A. / Israel   (02.21.10)
Hey, sweetie, shall we talk about Australia's activities in East Timor? About 4,000 dead Timorese ..... oh, do let's chat, idiot!
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