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Report: Obama weighing peace plan in fall
Yitzhak Benhorin
Published: 07.04.10, 17:56
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1. Since B. Hussein doesn't have any plans to deal with Iran...
Michael Hess aka BS ,   Charlotte, NC   (04.07.10)
This Muslim in the White House now has plenty of time to come up with his own plan of how to destroy Israel.
2. Obama bent on political suicide..
Vinny ,   Brooklyn N.Y.   (04.07.10)
but does he have to take the rest of the world with him ?
3. New peace plan in fall
Albrecht Klein ,   Germany   (04.07.10)
Before or after he has been toasted in the midterm elections?
4. New Peace plan to fall before it starts
Mahdi ,   Mecca   (04.07.10)
There is no peace, or should I say, stop dreaming of peace because Israel is dreaming of setelment everywhere is the palestinians land. Every one knows what has to be done in order to have peace, but Israel will never agree to the Pales, Arabs or international demads, so don't wast your time or money on the subject. Aryioss ameegos.
5. The world is fed up with this right wing gvt
Yossi   (04.07.10)
The Israeli right wing Government is pushing towards an imposed settlement. What do the settlers want? The world is fed up with them.
6. The Arab Israeli conflict was created by the Muslim-Arab...
Jehudah Ben-Israel ,   Qatzrin, Israel   (04.07.10)
...world and must therefore be resolved by it. The root cause of the conflict has always been the Muslim-Arabs' total refusal to accept the right of a non-Muslim and non-Arab people, the Jewish people in this case, to have sovereignty on any parcel of land in the region it considers its own. Thus, until and unless the Muslim-Arabs come out with a clear and direct statement, in Arabic, Hebrew and English in which they accept Israel's RIGHT to be, to exist as the nation-state of the Jewish people, and its RIGHT to do so within recognized and secure border, little can be expected. In addition, any agreement reached must be considered by the parties as "the end of the conflict". These two demands by Israel have been at the root of the Muslim-Arabs, local and regional, to reach an accommodation of peaceful coexistence with the nation-state of the Jewish people, Israel. Have they changed their minds and long term goal of annihilating the Jewish state...??!!
7. Peace Plan
Robert WEINRAUB ,   AVENTURA,FL. USA   (04.07.10)
Again? Why is the US trying to impose their ways? First of all the US is trying to deal with a country they do not recognize which is the Capital. Until the US recognizes Jerusalem as the Capital of Israel there shouldn't even be relations.
8. NO to peace plan crap
Brod ,   USA   (04.07.10)
Israel should reject any peace plan spewed by external entities. Peace can only be achieved between two parties. When one party deceives and manipulates other external entities into the process, it kills the peace making process.
9. Reply To Michael Hess
Yehiel ,   Teaneck NJ   (04.07.10)
You are right, but remember one important thing. Jews were living in Israel and the Capital was Jerusalem for 3000 years, while Hussein Obama's ancestors were still living in trees. We overcame many tyrants and so this one is small potatos.
10. Well, there is your damned Antichrist alright.
Ken Quinn ,   Amsterdam   (04.07.10)
11. #1, #2, & #3 - Jews who fear peace
David ,   USA   (04.07.10)
Whats the matter? Why do you fear peace so much? Is it because peace will force you to stop stealing Palestinian lands for settlements? Will peace mean you can no longer implant fanatic Jewish settlers in the West Bank? Will peace mean you must end your occupation and domination over the Palestinian people? Will peace mean that you have to give up your fantasies over an Eretz Israel ethnically-cleansed of Arabs? Is that what you are so afraid of?
12. Brzinsky and Scowcroft-These two Anti Jew Anti Israelers
Alan ,   SA   (04.07.10)
13. Discredited old men yammering about a discredited old "Plan"
Dr. L. Brnd ,   San Diego, USA   (04.07.10)
The "Clinton Plan" has no validity today precisely because the Arabs rejected it and launched 10 years of "Intifada" and rocket terrorism to try to sweeten the deal. Abbas' PA having failed and been defeated at that, no Israeli government is going to allow them to go back to Clinton's "Plan", any more than they can go back to the '47 Partition they rejected. More to the point, Israel will now never accept a phony Obama "guarantee" of its security, and America wants nothing to do with the discredited Clinton and his failed ideas - or the even more discredited "Zbiggy" Brzezinski (architect of the Iran turnover to Khomeni) and his failed ideas. "Map will be 90% the same"?? ITS NOT A MAP PROBLEM! Its an Arab-refusal-to-recognize-Jewish-Israel Problem, the unchanging 63-yr. cause of the conflict. Had Israel agreed to the "Clinton Plan" in 2000, thousands of Kassams would today be falling on Tel Aviv from Hamas-controlled "Palestine", with UN and EU demanding Israel take "no disproportionate measures". On top of this, Obama clearly has NO plan to eliminate Iran nuke threat, and NO plan to remove Hamas rocketocracy from Gaza - no matter what Israel offers or agrees to. US voters will hear this fraud exposed loud and clear if Obama promotes his "Clinton Plan" as 2010 elections approach. Rewarding terrorism in this way endangers every American - unlike J'lem apartments.
14. New and improved snake-oil
m   (04.07.10)
15. #11: Israel is not stealing Palestinian Land
Eric ,   Tel Aviv & New York   (04.07.10)
Israel is not stealing Palestinian Land - they still have Jordan. By international law starting in 1922 Jordan is the home of the Palestinian people, it even has a Palestinian Queen.
16. reply to yehiel
chilem ,   arlington,usa   (04.07.10)
when u say obama's ancestors were still living in trees are u talking about black ppl, just wondering since i am a blk man, just wanted u to clarify if u were calling black ppl the ppl who were in trees. and jerusalem was the capital for 3000 yrs(can u please post the dates from the start to the finish of this 3000 yr rule), i'm just seeking knowledge on the origins of jewish ppl and their history. plz help me yehiel, and do u guys look down on blk ppl seeing as ur statemen kind of referred to black ppl as monkies
17. Israel's best answer. A million Jews in Judea and Samaria.
Chaim ,   Israel   (04.07.10)
Forget about Obama. He has yet to produce a birth certificate proving he qualifies to be the U.S. president. His signature Obamacare is one of the most unpopular laws in U.S. history. Obama's support is falling like a rock over a cliff. Democrats are terrified of midterm elections. Israel needs to concentrate on two things only. Firstly, destroy Iran's nukes. The reason for this is too obvious to need elaboration. The second is to massively settle Judea and Samaria. A million Jews in Judea and Samaria is the best possible answer to evil plots to take away our Eternal Heartland.
18. #11 David Ehrens of Boston, why so much self hatred?
Michael Hess aka BS ,   Charlotte, NC   (04.07.10)
Why do you feel the urge to create conditions that will destroy the only tiny bitty country Jews have and give Arab Bushes Imperialists a 23rd State that will be another cesspool of violence, terrorism and world wide expansionism like all of their other pathetic entities.
19. "peace plan" = politically correct way to say destruction of
Israel   (04.07.10)
20. Well said #10, well said !
St.Joe ,   Jerusalem   (04.07.10)
21. peace
colin   (04.07.10)
The islamic president of the USA has a very far fetched wish. THERE WILL BE NO AMERICAN PEACE AGREEMENT IN ISRAEL. THERE WILL BE NO TWO STATES. THERE WILL BE ISRAELI SECURITY AND DEFENCE-NOT AMERICAN FILM ACTORS. obama can go to hell The feeling of the majority of the people of Israel
22. Bunch of Misfits
Ralph Levy ,   USA   (04.07.10)
No way will the plan work and will be accepted. Possession is 9 tenths of the law. Israel is not a 51st state. He asked every anti Israel adviser there was what a total idiot. http://ralphsrant1.blogspot.com
23. Meeting of the Jew haters
Chris Rettenmoser ,   Bayerisch Gmain Germ   (04.07.10)
Z. Brzezinski a famous Polish Jew hater supports Hussein Obama, a real Jew hating Indonesian American Muslim to figure out, how to destroy Israel as soon as possible... this must be a bad movie... We are in dire need of Clark Kent, to clean the scum out of town...
24. if israel is independent then stop taking our money
chilem ,   arlington,usa   (04.07.10)
u guys talk about our president and whoever else goes against ur jewish plans, well ok if u guys want to act big,bad, and bold then stop sucking or titty, stop begging for the billions, stop getting ammunitions and weapons systems from us. i will be happy when america stops funding u ungrateful ego maniacs. didnt see one of u say we dont american money, but u talk bad to america like we owe u guys, the only thing keeping ur country afloat is the usa, so if u dont like us please stop begging for our money and arms
25. #11 David Ehrens of Boston why do you have right to steal?
Michael Hess aka BS ,   Charlotte, NC   (04.07.10)
Native American land?
26. talkbacks crap
Alan ,   Europe   (04.07.10)
Listen to you! I mean really! Listen to you! quote : " NO to plan, NO, to peace, NO to peaceplan, NO to two states sollution, NO to peace, No to Obama, No to Europe, No to Arabs, NO to the rest of the world " end_of_quote
27. #11 David - we are not afraid of peace. but obama has said
Randi ,   Jerusalem   (04.07.10)
clearly that he is not interested in peace, he is interested in founding a palestinian state. I can absolutely promise you, beyond a shadow of a doubt, that the founding of a pestinian state will not bring peace. It will bring more danger, more death, more destruction, and less freedom to the middle east. And we in Israel will be in the eye of the storm.
28. t0 #27 Randi
chilem ,   arlington,usa   (04.07.10)
someone should have said that the creation of a jewish state in palestine would not bring peace to the region,because if they did they would be absolutely correct. i dont think the arabs and jews had a problem before the 1948 decleration of the zionist israel, and jews did live in palestine pre-ww2. jews lived better in palestine than the jews in germany yet all of the german hate has disappeared from the zionist propaganda while zionist make the world believe that arab muslims have been trying to kill jews for 1000's of yrs. wish u jews had these kind of nuts when hitler was around
29. God spare us from another "comprehensive" peace plan
Raymond in DC ,   Washington, USA   (04.07.10)
For a bunch of "gray eminences", these guys are acting like my former students as they rushed to a "Geneva Conference" for peace in an Arab-Israeli Conflict simulation many years ago. They too ignored reality and common sense. A true "realist" recognizes what the real problem here is - Arab and Muslim rejection of a non-Arab, non-Muslim political entity in their midst. He will recognize the *lack* of a true linkage not just between the Israel-Palestine track and the Iran track, but to the other conflicts in the region. He will recognize that an incremental approach is the only one that will lead anywhere. But liberals looooove comprehensive plans. Witness the reworking of health care in the US, the proposed cap-and-trade (non)-solution to the question of climate change. The Saudi Plan that Obama is so enthralled with provides the illusion of such a comprehensive solution. But it's anything but.
30. Arabs Have Already Rejected The Clinton Plan
TSB ,   Clifton, NJ USA   (04.07.10)
That Arabs have already rejected the Clinton plan in 1999. So what is Obama going to add? Will he get them to now agree, for example, to give up on the return of their so-called refugees to within Israel? The real danger is that Obama, unlike Clinton, is good at doublespeak, He will claim the Arabs accept the plan when the don't to impose it on Israel. Another poster above is correct. There is no "Peace Plan," there is a "Palestinian State Plan." (And for those naysayers -- will the Arabs under any "plan" finally end their war again Israel? If the answer is NO, then it is a sham and certainly no peace plan.)
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