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Arabs: Jerusalem's Judaization new Nakba
Ronen Medzini
Published: 15.05.10, 15:49
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1. Arabs- you are the catasrophe!
Rafi ,   Melbourne   (05.15.10)
Arabs are the catastrophe that has befallen this well, and you will pay the price!
2. This is of course a protest for the very fact that Israel...
Jehudah Ben-Israel ,   Qatzrin, Israel   (05.15.10)
...exists. This what the "nakbah" means in Arabic, catastrophe, commemorated on the 15th of May every year, the day Israel came into being. And to this day the Muslim-Arab world refuses to accept Israel's right to be, to exist as the nation-state of the Jewish people, despite the Balfour Declaration of 1917, the San Remo Conference of 1920, the League of Nations decision of 1922, all of which have called to have the ENTIRE country as the "national home of the Jewish people", and despite the United Nations Resolution of 1947 to establish a "Jewish state" in the country. So much for Muslim-Arab respect for international law, all of the above decisions, proclamations and resolutions are part of it.
3. Islamist-Jihadist Usurpers
Brod ,   USA   (05.15.10)
These usurpers are trying to usurp Israel's eternal and indivisible capital-city of since ancient time-Jerusalem. Israel should ban this kind of demonstration, impose curfew and expell their leaders from the Land of Israel. They are fomenting hatred and violence and brainwashing their people with their crap claim on Jerusalem. Devoid of knowledge of History, the Bible and Biblical Archaeology, these dark forces are wallowing in their cesspool of Taqiyya (deceit) to fool and brainwash their people and the world of AntiSemites.
4. spot on. we jews are back in history in our own home, get ou
ralph   (05.15.10)
you thieving liars.
5. PALESTINE WILL NEVER FALL, IT WILL BE IN OUR HEART 4 EVER
Salma ,   Palestine   (05.15.10)
We can forget nor forgive what zionists have done to the innocent Palestinian People until Palestinians regain their full rights
6. Direct result of rejecting peace....
Janice Cohen ,   ירושלים   (05.15.10)
umpteen times. All could've been different.
7. Accepting Israel as the Jewish State
dan ,   canada   (05.15.10)
Should there be a Jewish state? That is the central question. When a major Arab state would finally sign a peace treaty with Israel, it was long assumed, the Arab-Israeli conflict would end. The Egypt-Israel peace treaty of 1979, however, had the perverse effect of making other states and also the Egyptian populace more anti-Zionist. The 1980s gave hope that, instead, Palestinian recognition of Israel would close the conflict. The total failure of the 1993 Declaration of Principles ( Oslo Accords) then buried that expectation. Starting about 2007, a new focus emerged: winning acceptance of Israel as a sovereign Jewish state. Ehud Olmert set the terms: “I do not intend to compromise in any way over the issue of the Jewish state. This will be a condition for our recognition of a Palestinian state.” Olmert was Israel’s worst prime minister, but he got this one right. Arab-Israeli diplomacy has dealt with a myriad of subsidiary issues while tiptoeing around the conflict’s central issue: “Should there be a Jewish state?” Disagreement over the answer to that question is the key issue. Palestinian leaders responded with howls of outrage, declaring that they “absolutely refused” to accept Israel as a Jewish state. They even pretended to be shocked at the notion of a state defined by religion, although their own “Constitution of the State of Palestine,” third draft, states that “Arabic and Islam are the official Palestinian language and religion.” Olmert’s efforts went nowhere. On taking over the prime ministry in early 2009, Benjamin Netanyahu reiterated Olmert’s point in his diplomacy. Regrettably, the Obama administration endorsed the Palestinian position, again sidelining the Israeli demand. (Instead, it focuses on housing for Jews in Jerusalem.) If Palestinian politicians reject Israel’s Jewish nature, what about the Palestinian and the broader Arab and Muslim publics? Polls and other evidence suggest a long-term average of 20 percent acceptance of Israel, whether in the Mandatory period or now, whether Muslims in Canada or Palestinians in Lebanon. The results: 26 percent of Egyptians and 9 percent of urban Saudi subjects answered (in November 2009) in the affirmative, as did 9 percent of Jordanians and 5 percent of Lebanese (in April 2010). The polls reveal broad consensus across such differences as occupation, socioeconomic standing, and age. Some significant variations exist, however: As one would expect in Lebanon, 16 percent of (largely Christian) North Lebanon accepts a Jewish Israel, in contrast to just 1 percent in the (mostly Shi’ite) Bekaa Valley. More significantly, weighting these responses by the size of their populations (respectively, 79, 29, 6, and 4 million) translates into an overall average of 20 percent acceptance of Israel’s Jewishness — neatly confirming the existing percentage. Although 20 percent constitutes a small minority, its consistency over time and place offers encouragement. That one-fifth of Muslims, Arabs, and even Palestinians accept Israel as a Jewish state suggests that, despite a near-century of indoctrination and intimidation, a base for resolving the Arab-Israeli conflict does exist. Would-be peacemakers must direct their attention to increasing the size of this moderate cohort. Getting from 20 percent to, say, 60 percent would fundamentally shift the politics of the Middle East, displacing Israel from its exaggerated role and releasing the peoples of this blighted region to address their real challenges — not Zionism but such, oh, minor problems as autocracy etc.
8. Salma needs a reality check
Christopher ,   Boston, MASS   (05.15.10)
200 protestors out of an Arab population in Jerusalem of approx. 220000. The Bulk of the protesters are from outside Jerusalem. The silent majority of Arabs prefer Israeli government control since they know they live better lives in Israel than any Arab country. They simply fear for their lives under constant threats from terrorists in the PA and Hamas
9. Why does this paper promote hate speech against Jews
Great White North ,   Canada   (05.15.10)
"The MK also said that Arabs are protesting against the plan to Judaize Jerusalem, "Which Netanyahu wishes to complete by the end of his term." " Why are you even printing this hate speech.
10. Long live Israel! The Hope of the Free World!
Linda Rivera ,   New York   (05.15.10)
For thousands of years, the G-D haters have sought repeatedly to annihilate Jews. Jews survive soley because of G-D's divine protection! What a Mighty G-D! Obey G-D! Rebuild the Third Temple now!
11. I wonder, why don't the Americans consider these rallies
Jehudah Ben-Israel ,   Qatzrin, Israel   (05.15.10)
against the very existence of Israel an incitement that stands in the way of ushering an accommodation of peaceful coexistence? Why building 1,600 apartments for the poor is bad, yet the call for the elimination of Israel is acceptable by the Obama's administration?
12. Accepting Israel as the nation-state of the Jewish people is
Jehudah Ben-Israel ,   Qatzrin, Israel   (05.15.10)
the demand, and rightly so for several reasons: Legally, Israel was proclaimed based on UN Resolution 181 of 29 Nov 1947 which specifically calls for the establishment of a "Jewish state" in the Land. Ethically, Israel is the nation-state of the Jewish people based on the universally accepted right of all peoples, including that of the Jewish people, to national self-determination and independence. Historically, Israel is the manifestation of the re-establishment of Jewish sovereignty in the the Jewish ancestral homeland at the center of which is Jerusalem or Zion, the seat of the Jewish kingdom and the this people's Temple. Denying the above and negating it amounts to denying the RIGHT of a people, of the Jewish people, to its independent state, which of course corresponds to the various Charters that call for the annihilation of Israel and to the actual attempts by the Muslim-Arab world to bring this about.
13. ONE MAN'S NABKA IS ANOTHER'S BLESSING
JEWISHNESS ,   NYC USA   (05.15.10)
TOUGH LUCK Mr. Nabka the squatter...you lost!. There is a wonderful/beautiful sovereign state called Israel, and all the orchestrated lamenting and "widow's" wailing means squat! SO...Go rage at the Jordanians and Egyptians WHO REALLY CAUSED the PAL's problems, not Israel. ( Note:there's not ever going to be a "welcome home" from their previous domains!) but as they say... go tell it to HEZBullAH and Feh!tah and HAMass...they always want to hear loud televisable/exploitible arab wails, chest bleatings, and whatever evils they can hurl at Jewish people. Also the nabka demonstrators are few in number because they are out shopping...something they could not do before under the PLO's corruption that was draining all their EU/USA donations.
14. :: Real Nakba in Darfur today: Arabs kill 160 Black Africans
Matty Groves ,   Fairport   (05.15.10)
because they are Black
15. :: #5 Are willing to forget Mecca so easily?
Matty Groves ,   Fairport   (05.15.10)
then you don't deserve either one.
16. Arab occupation of Israel will soon come to a compplete end!
jordan is palestine   (05.15.10)
17.  Stop talking racist and barbaric, because if you like it or
shadi,palastine   (05.15.10)
Stop talking racist and barbaric, because if you like it or you insist on .. Will remain the land is Palestine be trust
18. A catastrophe of their own making
Zelkha ,   Israel   (05.15.10)
19. For 62 years the Nation of Israel has been Building the Home
Roy C. Hudson ,   Pittsburg USA   (05.15.10)
Land back as they have been told to do, by the God of Israel. Every day they have been under attack by people that has no right to the land. Now all nations are backing the PLO. The 21 countries has 800 time more land then Israel has. None of them want Arafat, Abbas, Hamas = PLO. they all back Abbas to fight against The Israel Nation that owns the Land & more. It is impossible to put the Jews out of their land this time,(!!!) It has been all arranged by the God of Israel to destroy all Nations that fight against the Jews this time, KJV. 1611 AD. Zschariah,12:1-9 This has been set up as a warning for all the Nations of the World to read. It goes to show how unwise the Gentiles have become. They have learned nothing by the History of the Jews. The Holy City can't be given away by even the Jews. God Plans to rebuild in all that land because he said so. Things are about to change in all the Mid-east & around this world, The Jews are Home to stay. (!!!) Roy C. Hudson USA 5/15/2010
20. nobody was expelled:all ARABS LEFT RATHER THAN LIVEWITH JEWS
jewbie ,   NYC USA   (05.15.10)
It was their choice...they fled, now they MUST live with it! Besides, Jews allow arabs but arabs don't allow Jews! So why should Jews give them ANYTHING just because they want is not theirs, newhat have those who have strived to eliminate Israel from the face of the earth done other than to create hate and bloodshed? ver was never will be!
21. Poor ignorant and foolish Salma
Slice ,   USA   (05.15.10)
Your posts are always filled with such twisted, mis-informed and incorrect statements. First of all, Palistine was never a land for your made up people of "Palistinians", amazing how a group of people can claim to have a history, when they have only been in existance for, what, 30 or so years. Other than that, all of your history is that of the Ottoman empire and the countries that appeared during and after WWII. In reality your are just Jordanians and other Arabs who are being held captive by your brothers in refugee camps for over 60 years Why, so you can be used as pawns for the continued agression against Israel. The funniest thing is, is that you really think that the lives of the "Palistinians" will be better off without Israel. Although it will never happen, but if Israel was gone tomorrow, the "Palistinian" people would be forgotten right along with us. Your Arabs brothers would no longer care about you, since all they ever wanted you for was a tool to use against use. What happens with tools that are no longer needed, they are forgotten.
22. The Judaization of Jerusalem? excuse me!>> to @ 1 RIGHT!
James ,   ISRAEL   (05.15.10)
Firts of all I was under the impression that Jerusalem was Jewish and has been for nearly 5.000 years old. So it is us Jews/Israelis who should commemorate the CATASTROPHIC Of having these ungrateful people among us.Not the other way around! Sick of the even toread the word "nakba". What a bunch of dreadful people we have had the misfortune to allow them to live among us. AWAY WITH ALL OF THEM TO JORDAN.The sooner the better. For sure they would never be able to even whisper a complaint,for they will summarily be put in KLINK.
23. Please Compensate Us For Stealing Our Property in Alexandria
Seth ,   Washington, DC   (05.15.10)
Part of my family fled Egypt in 48-49 and we owned significant property, real estate, and a successful business - all stolen without compensation by the Egyptian government. More Sephardim were kicked out of Arab lands than so-called "Palestinians" that fled Israel under instructions by their leaders who guaranteed the impending destruction of the Israeli state.
24. #5 How romantic yet fake
Cynthia ,   US   (05.15.10)
Will you forget and forgive the Palestinian leaders who steal Palestinian funds, fire rockets and bombs at Israel and use Palestinians as cheap shahids to murder Israelis? Will you be honest with yourself and acknowledge Israel owes you nothing? Will you ever create something for yourself and take responsibility for your failure? Will you ever stop marching in place while getting nowhere?
25. To Great White North
Ilana   (05.15.10)
Although ynetnews is amazing in that it allows people to post with forcing them to give email details and etc (unlike muslim online news sites-once Ichecked to see what was going on there...), and it is a democrtaic country so as usual the freedom of speech is abused, there are posts that are really aggressive, full of hatred,racist slander against Jews (one example out of many: "take the cork out of you Jewish butt..." etc), you are RIGHT- ynetnews should do better at checking out posts by certain individuals before allowing them to be posted. I hope this gets published.
26. Nakba
hanzalahnaji   (05.15.10)
I have to tell all the world, specially the Christians, That the first sector of Arab society that have the big loss from the Nakba is the Christian Arabs, we were about 20% of the Arab society, now hardly we are 2%, and yes Israel either force or encourage Christians to leave, for example my grandfather house was in Qattamon, it still exist there, with no changes, my father born there, they forced all the familly to immigrate to east Jerusalem, we never forget that this our house, and my three children born in Misgav Ladakh hospital which located in front of my grandfather house, in 1991 when my oldest son born, the secretary told me here is your document, if you don’t have name for baby you can add it later, I asked her to come with me to the entrance of the hospital, I told her there that the name of the boy is George, and he given this name in that house before 50 years, Arab Christians and Muslims will never forget there land, there villages and towns , they wrote books, keeps maps, keys of houses, they pass it from generation to another, and by the way there were people in Palestine, with a civilized cities, culture, and history, Parties like this one its not for reminding, because we remember our homeland and houses, everyday, this party is to show world that we are still here. Hoping that ynet publish our opinion.
27. :: #5 Repatriation will cure all your woes
Matty Groves ,   Fairport   (05.15.10)
Hejaz is waiting with open arms and a warm welcome back to 7th century
28. #5 "palestine", blah blah blah
tom ,   toronto, canada   (05.15.10)
first of all, "palestine" is the term used for the jewish homeland for the last (almost) 2,000 years. since the time of the roman occupation through to the first half of the 20th century and the founding of israel. you only started calling yourself "palestinian" in 1964! (led by an egyptian-born "faux-palestinian" named yasser arafat.) the british created for you an arab homeland in palestine and gave you 78% of the land - it's now called "jordan" (because you refused to use the name "palestine" which was "too jewish"!). "arab palestine" was created in 1923. go there, and build your country, instead of filling your heads with lies and envy and hatred for what is not, and has never been, yours.
29. Its the Baath flag. no Palestinian flag
golan ,   Modiin   (05.15.10)
the so called Palestinian flag is the Baath party flag. The Baath party is a National Socialist Pan Arab party.
30. To Salma Who misrepresents the Truth.Tell Me Salma>>
KATE ,   ISRAEL   (05.15.10)
When was it you had even a state? Show me proof of your existence, Tell me who was your king, Tell me about any archeological finds that has never surfaced. No currency in your name EVER, Finally I say,false dreams eventually fade away. Therefore as yours is a FAKE history named by Ratifart only since 1963 (or later) to encourage you. I should blame him for the INVENTION he perpetrated,not to mention the troubles he caused you by his grandiose ideas WHICH disappeared on to the HORIZON with all the monies HE STOLE from you and at the end FAILED you miserably. Lastly you can dream,but IN VAIN,for no one has ever heard of you other than the rest of your Atrab brothers who used you as pawns,for their miserable purposes,while they live in luxury and where indeed you belong. So,Salma your place is not in Israel,but not only in Jordan,but among all the rest of the RICH ARAB countries where in point of fact you should be. You are the USURPERS of my COUNTRY ISRAEL/JERUSALEM. Jerusalem has been Jewish 2000 years before Islam was even dreamed of.Point of FACT ISRAEL IS 5.000 YEARS OLD. Jews were here long before the Christians. Think about it,for No Judaism,then NO CHRISTIANITY EITHER. It is Israel who should DO THE MOURNING ,not yourselves. But then we happen to be philosophical about it,having sufferred for centuries.Therefore we DO NOT MOURN.We are too advanced to behave in such puerile manner. That we are sick of you is JUST. You never stop WHINING.
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