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The ship of horrors
Yoram Ettinger
Published: 02.06.10, 18:01
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31. plz watch this link
x ,   x   (06.02.10)
youtube.com/watch?v=u4tTiRRqBdk
32. The Real Reasons
Tamir ,   Los Angeles   (06.03.10)
Everyone who defends this flotilla states that it is necessary due to the gaza blockade. The gaza blockade is there because Gaza is ruled by an internationally recognized terrorist group that was elected by the Gazan people. This same organization has it IN THEIR OWN CHARTER that their goal is to destroy Israel. This is why even Egypt has a blockade against this area yet no one screams at them for their illegal occupation. Anybody who posts on this boards from the United States and is in favor of sanctioning Israel or sides with the protestors has a very short memory. Lets not forget who was dancing on the streets when the twin towers were blown up. Lets also not forget which religion is responsible for the recent events in Fort Hood and the USS Cole and the shoe bomber and the lockerbie bomber and so on and so forth. Those who side with these people are destined to fall under their brutal regimes (much like in Gaza).
33. #2, 7, 13, 14, 28 clearly ignored the entire article
Hagrid   (06.03.10)
And didn't let the facts presented there get in the way of their ready-made opinions. Of course, trying to respond to solid facts is hard, and throwing empty hate-slogans is much easier...
34. Wow, the ship was carrying all these NUKES & WMDs
Mal ,   USA   (06.03.10)
The whole world knows that the ships were carrying building materials to rebuild homes, schools & UN compounds bombed by Israel in Gaza. The ship might also has been carrying wood, steel or more lethal weapons such as concrete or paint to attack poor Israeli troops with.
35. Interesting
H ,   WISCONSIN USA   (06.03.10)
Israel blew it on this one. Poor to non existent planning based purely on hubris. The flotilla was in INTERNATIONAL waters, they simply should have waited until it crossed into Israeli territory. Then they could have recorded it completely with their own cameras. So the attack in International waters is actually Piracy - no different than the Somalis. Since all on the ships were detained in International waters, the state of Israel effectively took hostages when they 'arrested' those on the ships and took them ashore - no different than Iran. I'm sure all recording devices and laptops 'confiscated' (stolen?) will be returned - nah, won't happen because it will contradict the official line.
36. Why is there a Hamas?
Truthseeker ,   USA   (06.03.10)
When are you all going to understand that were it not for the brutal occupation there would be no Hamas. There was no Hamas for the first 20 years of Israeli occupation of the West Bank and Gaza. At the start Hamas was a fundamentalist charity organization and was supported by Israel as an antidote to the more secular and more popular PLO headed by Arafat. In 1988 Arafat recognized Israel but it got the Palestinians nowhere. More settlements and land theft and brutality continued. So, just as Hezbollah was formed to resist Israeli occupation of Lebanon, so Hamas became a resistance movement. Israel has no one but itself to blame for Hamas. Without the occupation there would have no reason for Hamas.
37. Thanks for the referral, Chris #27: An
Robert Haymond ,   Israel/Canada   (06.03.10)
excellent website. A Danish institute studying terrorism determined that the IHH was already affiliated with al-Queda as early as 1997 if not earlier and that the government of Turkey was on edge about it. It appears that turkey's loyalty to a western form of democracy has veered east towards Iran. Because the military remains the staunchest advocate of secularism in Turkey, one might even expect a coup. Such an event would undoubtedly benefit Israel and the West.
38. RB Canada #22: Your attempt to make fun
Robert Haymond ,   Israel/Canada   (06.03.10)
of a serious poster only documents your own lack of credibility. So which do you want, credibility and influence or one-up-manship? If it's the latter, I noticed but you did a poor job of it. Grow up and add something. Challenge us.
39. ship of fools
mik ,   LA   (06.03.10)
you even managed to wrestle away one of our guns and you couldn't even kill one of us. Protected by hashem I tell ya. Come on seven armies... Come one fake peaceniks, god see inside of you and knows your anti-jew hate, We got lots of new toys to show the UN Security council. China wants a demo. Turkey even hasn't canceled their order. You may have some lefties from the opposing side like the dork on the opposite opinion page... But we have the Shwartz. May the Shwartz be with you boys:) We no longer trust the world to say it will protect us. It's not going to work Obama. You cannot promise what god already has. And what he gave us the brains to use to punish those who attack us.
40. Clash of civilization ..yes by all means!
Michael Dar ,   Israel   (06.03.10)
Even the "neutral" Swiss came to realize it by voting against Mosques building ..rampant take over by Islam is definately on the march!
41. Murder at high seas
yaakov ,   miami Florida USA   (06.03.10)
As a former Israeli residing in the USA I deplore the merciless killing of innocent passengers by the IDF> We now await for the Israei Propoganda machine to due its job.
42. #13 What part did you not get?
Cynthia ,   USA   (06.03.10)
Jihadists connected to al-Qaeda with knives, metal chains, grenades, firebombs, metal bats and plans for a martyr mission were on board. This is your version of "peace activists". They came to provoke. Transport of supplies to the Palestinians by Israel was declined. The jihadists were sent home with their tails between their legs and there haven't been any photos to confirm humanitarian aid was on board. With supporters like this, it's no wonder the Palestinians are still floundering.
43. #2 Vic Brainwash in Suisse
ron ,   Australia   (06.03.10)
Israel does allow minarets and burkas. In Switzerland you panic about these while conducting Big Business with terror state Iran.If you had a fraction of Israel's security concerns in your country, believe me it would be more than panic. The best investment would be in the diaper/nappy industry.
44. To #41
me   (06.03.10)
As a present and proud Israeli resident, i'm a shame that you once lived here and more a shame that we share the same religion. Don't crawl back here when you'll be hunted like a dog. You are the worst enemy anyone can have.
45. #41yaakov
bruce-david ,   hula valley israel   (06.03.10)
as an american living in israel i have a feeling your post is a fake. or something bit you on the ass, doh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
46. IHH
bruce-david ,   hula valley isra   (06.03.10)
http://www.terrorism-info.org.il/malam_multimedia/English/eng_n/html/hamas_e105.htm
47. #43: Brainwash in the Bush
Vic ,   Lasuanne, Suisse   (06.03.10)
Nice to hear from you, Ron. The only reason Israel allows minarete and burkas because they were already there long long time ago. The only miracle that they are not destroying them. As for Switzerland let me inform you that historically it is christian country with very well defined architectural style, which minaretes are not fitting in. These days those minarets are build from cheap aluminium and it really look ugly. Please visit us and see it by yourself. Nobody forbids moslems to build mosques without minaretes, and historically those minarets were build as a symbol of domination of Moslem religion in the territory they occupied. But again if some Moslems do require presence of minarets they can always go to Turkey, Saudi Arabia , Australia , Israel and enjoy their lives there. I can tell you nobody will because normal people could hardly get sweater life then here. If you enjoy sweat life here please respect the opinion of people who build it over 700 years and manage to maintain it over all those years.
48. bangwashed
bill ,   south africa   (06.03.10)
Vic, but then again civilized people would rather choose harmony and good neighborliness.
49. Keep neutral, its what you do best
bill ,   south africa   (06.03.10)
I suppose by choosing neutrality you are able to amass a sweet life
50. RE#49: KEEPING NEUTRAL
Vic ,   Lausanne, Suisse   (06.03.10)
I suppose you are right Bill. Is having a sweet life such a bad of a thing, and is not the price of being neutral worth it? In any case as you see there are no rights or wrongs, all those discussions is like a talk between blind and the deaf , meaning there is no chance of bridging our difference in opinion leaving the only option to enjoy whatever life we have. If it means being neutral so be it.
51. KNIVES & WEAPONS
Vic ,   Lausanne, Suisse   (06.03.10)
This lousy propaganda makes me really laugh. I saw those pictures of knives posted on YNET. Some of them looked like a pocket knives, some knives for peeling potatoes, some good kitchen knives confiscated from the ships kitchen. They also had ropes, God forbid, on this ship. If this is the best the israeli PR can produce, then no wonder you are in such troubles. But then again who needs PR when you can just bomb the crap out of your neighbours.
52. LETS DO A CHECK
Eclipse 1 ,   AUSTRALIA   (06.03.10)
ISRAEL WHAT A FANTASTIC NATION WELL DONE BUT LET ME GIVE THE GOD OF THE BIBLE THE GLORY AND LETS CHECK FOR ANY MISTAKES IN PROPHECY 1 was thes jewish pepole removerd from israel and went to all corners of the earth answer YES 2 DID GOD SAY he would gather all the jewish people from the 4 corners of the earth and bring them back to the land of israel answer YES DID GOD SAY that israel would be hated and pesacuted amugst all nations answer YES DID GOD SAY that israel would be a great nation even the world would buy Israel fruit YES YES HE DID he also said in the last days the whole world will turn aganst israel we have seen the condemnation from the world this now is about israel and the palastinians but this will move soon to JERUSALEM it will be the focal flash point FOR THE WORLD Iran libya russia turkey and a lot other islamic nation will be in GODS site GOD said he was going to do it now we are whitnessing it HIS FINAL PLAN AMADIDAJAN MIGHT BRING OUT THE ISLAMIC MASSIAH BUT HE IS NOT GOD THE MESSIAH IN FLESH look up for your redmetion draws near even at the door i bless those who bless you and curse those who curse you LOOKS LIKE THE WORLD IS ON A COLLISION CAUSE WITH GOD
53. we have to act as THEY picrure us
tanya ,   tel aviv israel   (06.03.10)
54. # 38 Robert Haymond
RB ,   Canada   (06.03.10)
Who said I was trying to make a joke??? The simple FACT is that Isreal exists at the pleasure of the countries which support her. This stunt on the high seas is eroding that support. Unless you folks really want to go it alone shape up and become a legitimate member of the international community. There, is that positive enough for you?
55. You are wrong , mate
Bill ,   Ireland   (06.03.10)
"Israel’s aim of cooperation was demonstrated by Jerusalem’s offer to allow the flotilla to reach its destination.." They never offered this, never, if they had the offer would have been accepted.
56. # 55
RB ,   Canada   (06.03.10)
I wondered about that. The Israeli spokesman stated during a press meeting that the offer had been made and refused. Why would anyone refuse such an offer?? Perhaps some of this disinformation will bite them in the ass. Your information should be widely distributed to set the record straight and to forewarn the ship which is on its way.
57. #29 Chaim-ditto
Jerry C ,   USSA   (06.03.10)
Why don't they send a flotilla to North Korea, Russia or Iran? Exactly. Only distorted minds would think Israel has to act differently than the rest of the world. If someone threatens me, I'd kill you whether or not you were close to my home.
58. Amazing Article
TheTurk   (06.04.10)
Its amazing really when, on one side, you have civilians in a civilian ship from all over the world on the other side you have armed, masked commandos with ships, submarines and helicopters, getting dropped on the civilian ship in international waters in the cover of darkness killing 9 of the civilians, wounding many and its the civilians that end up being terrorists...
59. the ship of horrors
Enrique Bava ,   Portland, OR, 97232   (06.04.10)
When I read about Israel being the stalwart of Western civilization I think of the famous Gandhi quote: "It would be a good idea." Violent boarding of a ship in the high seas is an act of piracy last time I checked in the not-so-clean arsenal of Western Civilization's legal terms.
60. Propaganda
Béibhinn ,   Donegal, Ireland   (06.04.10)
Black is white, night is day, everyone is out to get us and we have a right to kill anyone we like. That's pretty much it, right? I don't think there was a word of truth in this execrable article.
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