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Gaza flotilla passenger: Ship became lake of blood
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Published: 02.06.10, 09:25
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61. Lies
John ,   Herzliya, Israel   (06.02.10)
You have stated a fact which is provable. Now, do you have any data on the Gaza high court stating how many times Hamas has used civilians as human shields? No? So this means that they are no such cases? Only fact that the other side is not even counting and far more prosecuting such crimes can show you who is democracy and who is not.
62. Well we have video evidence that what they are saying
Danny   (06.02.10)
is a lie. The video clearly shows them attacking the soldiers before they even landed. Who attacked who first is open and shut.
63. :P matty you use pali wood lies, cause
ghostq   (06.02.10)
mofaz isn't comander in the army anymore, hahahahaha and that is before the blockad in 2007 oh dear me that is even before 2006 lebanon war. get your facts straight and yourself.
64. to #60 oh and matty the flotilla was hamas coopreation
ghostq   (06.02.10)
congra you support world jihad.
65. lake? the whole sea became red
Arabs never lie   (06.02.10)
66. Turks never showed concern for Kurdish or Israeli blood.
naro ,   nyc   (06.02.10)
There was no outrage from Turkey about Kurdish blood they shed by the thousands or Israeli victims of ceaseless rockets from Gaza. Erdogan is using Israel bashing to gain standing in the moslem world.
67. The issue isn't Matty aka Bannister aka BBS News
GZLives   (06.02.10)
Its the suicide sea cruise that didn't go so well for the Islamsts as the video clip showing them swinging crowbars and bats is doing them in and exposing their real goal
68. #60 Matty
Israel Israeli ,   Tel Aviv   (06.02.10)
Answer: no More detailed answer: The IDF often encountered gunmen holed up in buildings. Instead of the "Obama method" (to neutralize Mustapha al-Yazid, Obama ordered the murder of his wife, three daughters and baby granddaughter), the IDF would ask a neighbor to approach the house and ask the gunman to surrender, or at least to allow innocents to leave the building before it was stormed. This is because the IDF recognized that gunman would not kill his neighbors to avoid triggering a blood-feud. In such a way, many lives were saved, either because the gunman surrendered or because innocents were allowed to escape.
69. free KURDISTAN!!!
ellen ,   u.s   (06.02.10)
please wherever you are help to spread the message!!!!
70. Disliked
John ,   Herzliya, Israel   (06.02.10)
And you poor Matty, you are disliked, just because you think different. Can you imagine how it is to be hatred just because you are Jew?
71. Illegitimate witnesses
Eric Bravo ,   Washington state   (06.02.10)
It would be absurd to consider these people legitimate witnesses. It sound like from their testimony that they were within enclosed areas and were not in full view of the entire struggle on deck. Also, their statements are obvious hyperbole perfectly compatible for propaganda. And it is no coincidence that these people are filmmakers and writers- the influential components of the anti-Israel propaganda machine that is endemic in the world-media
72. #69
Folke Bernadotte   (06.02.10)
Free the US!!!!!
73. #58 - Israel Israeli , Tel Aviv
Dino Domingo ,   Vancouver, Canada   (06.02.10)
The point the guy is making is that Sarah B is a liar and her comments are meritless! She is like a broken record appealing only to the hardcore super extreme Israelis and she has definitely been stuffed on several occasions because of her empty and fabricated lies! People have called her out (just like I did last week) and she disappears from each conversation where she is proven not credible! To answer your questions about Hamas... I think they are scum... a grotesque and dangerous organisation that needs to be dealt with harshly! I couldn't imagine living there or even close to them and I feel for the Israelis but really, Sarah B is a sick human who has said some very outrageous comments! I fully believe she is a medicated lunatic who suffers from mental illness! You have to read her posts and then you will understand!
74. Liars
Jeff ,   Dallas, US   (06.02.10)
I watched the videos again and again. These so-called peace activists are just a bunch of liars. Lesson here; never forget to bring the cameras when dealing with Israel haters. The leftists will always side with the liars.
75. :: Israel Israeli - #68
Matty Groves ,   Fairport   (06.02.10)
You have just confirmed that the IDF force innocent civilians, in a combat zone, to check for gunmen and bobby traps. No matter how you spin it the fact remains that it is *illegal* (under international law) for any army to use civilians in such a manner. Such immoral and cowardly use of civilians is commonly known as a ‘war crime’. Obviously the IDF much prefer to endanger the lives of innocent civilians rather than their own, such is their cowardly nature.
76. :: John - #61
Matty Groves ,   Fairport   (06.02.10)
Firstly the use of civilians as human shields is a war crime regardless if such an act is committed by the IDF or Hamas. Secondly there is very little evidence that Hamas use human shields and they have hardly matched the IDF in their usage of human shields ie: a staggering 1,200 times over a 5 year period! This is probably because the IDF actually have a policy of using human shields. Thirdly is not a professional army like the IDF thus such inhumane use of civilians might be expected from a ‘terror group’ but for a democratic country to tolerate its army to use human shields is utterly appalling and highly immoral. I can think of no other army belonging to a democratic country which hides behind civilians while they conduct warfare.
77. :: John - #70
Matty Groves ,   Fairport   (06.02.10)
78. :: #69 & #72
Matty Groves ,   Fairport   (06.02.10)
FREE PALESTINE WHILE YOU ARE AT IT!!
79. Illegitimate witness - #71
Dino Domingo ,   Vancouver, Canada   (06.02.10)
I completely agree with you but I have a question? Did you think (even though I have fully supported the stopping of the boats and agree that Israel does have that right and exercised it) that the Israelis could have approached the boats better and without jumping out of helicopters... in the middle of the night or early morning... with even more intimidation but less personal confrontation? I am just wondering if it was handled properly because soo many people are focussing on the fact that the people on the boats had weapons (I think very primitive weapons but dangerous of course). I truly feel the ships could have been approached with far more impact by showing seriousness and HUGE force (to scare... these people didnt have bazooka's or missles or any major weapons) but not by jumping out of helicopters onto a deck of some primitve and hateful people...ready for a fight! I don't think they should have been physically engaged! If I show up to a fight with a gun and the other guy has far more sophisticated weapons and I see I have no chance I have no choice! I say this because I have read and heard the IDF is an elite group, so I think they would have the means to be more effective!
80. :: Dino - #73
Matty Groves ,   Fairport   (06.02.10)
Did you see that she was also caught out lying about losing a child to a terrorist attack? Now that was a vile lie!!
81. #80 - Matty Groves
Dino Domingo ,   Vancouver, Canada   (06.02.10)
really? where? that is interesting!
82. :: Dino - #81
Matty Groves ,   Fairport   (06.02.10)
See post #28 & #32 at http://tinyurl.com/3a2wnku Personally I think this is the most vilest thing someone can do as it insults the real victims in this ME conflict.
83. Unbelievable but not surprising Matty
Dino Domingo ,   Vancouver, Canada   (06.02.10)
I can tell just by her avoidance of answering certain questions and her attention to outrageous claims that she is ill! Some people are fooled by her grammar and writing skills but over time I saw that she has a lot of rage and makes claims she cannot backup...and then there are people like you who expose her! I used to work with a woman who claimed she had a boyfriend, was building a house, was a semi pro volleyball player until one day it all came crumbling down...she eventually received help and is still getting therapy but her lies continue...its a shame... I wonder what her childhood was like?
84. :: Dino - #83
Matty Groves ,   Fairport   (06.02.10)
I think you are right; she must be ill, maybe Münchausen syndrome. Posting here won’t help her as some Ynuts only enable her. I think the only way to help her is to drive the fact home (to her) that she is delusional. Maybe confronting her with reality might help. BTW you mentioned in an earlier post that you exposed one of her lies, what was it?
85. Matty
Dino Domingo ,   Canada   (06.03.10)
I exposed her thoroughly on another thread where she was warning me that she would tear me apart...her and then Birdi (Birdbrain) as well... by the end of the thread she wouldn't take anymore beatings... she moved on to attacking others on other threads... I completely discredited her...she was ranting about Obama and how she liked Bush Jr and very abusive to anyone who had an opinion of anything other than hers! she practically begged me to stuff her but since I came to the realisation that she is probably not stuffable material I declined!
86. :: Dino - #85
Matty Groves ,   Fairport   (06.03.10)
Ohh I missed that one, sounds like a good trashing :) If you can remember the title of the article offhand drop me a post, if not down worry about it.
87. Dingbat Dino 85
Birdi ,   Israel   (06.03.10)
Stop trying to fool yourself Dino. You did not expose Sarah with a lie. She gave you a good thrashing which you deserved for your vile wish to "stuff" her. You are lower than dung.
88. confiscated news footage
Jeff Ray ,   Salt Lake, USA   (06.04.10)
All Israel has to do is release the confiscated footage. Until they do, it appears they're covering up a crime. Gaza is the wolds largest prison, Israel has blocked fishing tackle and instant coffee from Gaza? WTH is that about?
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