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Cameraman: 4 commandos were captured during flotilla raid
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Published: 04.06.10, 08:46
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1. something wrong with this account
bee ,   israel   (06.04.10)
if true, why didn't the same thing happen on the other ships?
2. #1 There's nothing wrong...
Madeleine ,   Israel   (06.04.10)
...withthe account. This was the only boat where our soldiers met with armed resistance and there is ample footage to prove this. The ship's security cameras showed footage of the activists preparing weapons and donning protective gear even before a single soldier landed. Since they - the activists - never thought to dismantle the cameras, we took them and found the proof. What more do you want?
3. I am sick and tired of thos liars who attack
Vardina   (06.04.10)
sraeli soldiers and when hit back pretend to be salvation angels.
4. 2 - I Agree
Jonathan   (06.04.10)
I don't understand why people find it hard to believe that Israelis are not stupid, violent, vicious people. Israel had no up-side/benefit/interest in killing innocent people. But do we really need to convince the world that these guys were not after peace ?
5. # 2
Birdi ,   Israel   (06.04.10)
Kudos Madeleine, you are correct.
6. #2
Fairness4all ,   London, UK   (06.04.10)
Ample footage? Would you like to point out any evidence released so by anyone other than the Israeli military? Get real, even ynet and jpost have called for the IDF to release all the video, including footage taken by the activists that have (up until now) not been released fully. Evidence, released partially, only tells half the story - great example Israel's transcripts of the USS Liberty attack. If you seriously are going to accept that Israel's version of events are true, then you should have no trouble calling for a full release of all footage. In light that all of the activists released have said the same thing, that Israel started shooting even before boarding, then a full release of the video should be done now so we can make up our own minds.
7. THE 4 WERE PIRATES WHO HIJACKED A SHIP IN INTL WATERS !!!
SINGER ,   singapore   (06.04.10)
8. TRUTH CANNOT BE HIDDEN
tony   (06.04.10)
These were terrorists and not peace activists. Just like Obama is retracing his steps now, so the world and its media propaganda is dying down now. It has become a common knowledge to the whole world and its media propagandist that these people were not peace activists but terrorists indeed. Look at their utterances. The UN having found nothing against Israel because of the truth that are now unfolding, they are now hammering on the blockade. But if one may ask the question: Why do we have security gates, and some equipped with gadgets in the EU Offices, UN Offices, NATO Offices, White House, Government Houses and Offices? Is the security gates not blockades mounted to secure the lives of staff and officers inside such premises/buildings from danger. And if Israel so decides for the security of its citizens which they have a right to protect to mount a blockade in Gaza against Hamas, an enemy who is bent on anihilating it, is that an offence? If it is an offence, then all the security gates and gadgets mounted on UN, EU, NATO, White House, and even Erdogan Office gates and residences, should be dismantled, because they constitute a blockade against the freedom of the citizens. Imagine if the incident had happened at the UN, EU, NATO, White House or Erdogan gates? The intruders disarming and fighting the security men at the gates after several warnings not to approach the gates? There would have been much bloodbath with such a mob. Bibi and the seven cabinet members should not budge. They should take their stand and stand tall, ignoring the UN, EU, NATO, Erdogan, etc., because they are bent on the destruction of Israel. Have any of them talk about Shalit? They are all hypocrites which should be ignored.
9. Massacre
Serge ,   Antwerp, Belgium   (06.04.10)
If it was Israel's aim to kill people, there would be much more victims.
10. # 6
Birdi ,   Israel & proud of it   (06.04.10)
YES we are going to accept Israel's version because we'd rather believe Israel than the scummy Turks. As for you, you can believe as you wish.
11. #6 You don't want evidence
Marina Oliver ,   Tel Aviv   (06.04.10)
admit it. You really couldn't care less. All you want is to continue with this charade. There has been plenty of evidence if you cared to look for it. Problem is for idiots like you is that you consider SKY news or better yet - BBC - evidence, you moron. That's YOUR PROBLEM NOT ISRAEL'S.
12. OK Fairness 4 all #6 - Let's be fair!
David ,   Karmiel, Israel   (06.04.10)
We all know that Israel does hit hard and the reason for that is we are under constant attack by the Arab/Muslim world many of whom would love to see Israel totally destroyed. Many of those are in your country and in Europe who voice the same anti-Israel sentiments. Another point worth point out is that whatever Israel does we get condemned for it! Now let's look at the "fairness4all". The USA, the UK and their allies have killed somewhere between 90,000 to 100,000 Iraqi civilians since 2003. The allies have killed thousands of innocent civilians in the Afghanistan war. Check it out on Google. I did. In fact the Germans killed 146 civilian bystanders when they bombed a petrol tanker and just the other day a US drone killed 47 innocents! So where is Justice Goldstone? No UN Investigation? The answer is in Goldstone's own words to Yonit Levi on Israel Channel 2 News in plain English: "The big countries are exempt for investigation"! So there's your fairness! Before you criticize Israel just remember all those killed on 9/11 and on your trains and busses and the folks in Madrid, Mumbai, Lahore, Bali, Kenya, Tanzania and so on who have been killed by Islamic Terrorists and who are supported by Hamas and their allies. We Israelis are proud of our soldiers and you should also remember that we do not give up as the the Royal Marines when they were attacked by Iranian speedboats! We do not give up because each an everyone of us knows that if we do it will be the end of Israel and the Jewish people. Lastly, the footage has been released but most of the international media will not broadcast it as in the words of the France 24 TV report after the weapons ship was seized a few months ago, the editor said it is no "newsworthy"! Have a good look at YouTube.
13. WRONG
richard ,   Melbourne   (06.04.10)
You are so wrong on so many counts.. Hamas is a democratically elected government.. it is just not that one that Israel wanted. Not compliant enough. hence the strife between Fatah and Hamas. Hamas ahve offered a 10 year Hudna to Israel, even in the midst of the atrocities of high tech murder that Israel si so good at.. Hamas was not actually responsible for the (puny) rockets that were used as an excuse for the slaughter of Cast Lead.. (an extermination attempt that only served to put Palestinians more firmly behind Hamas..) This was just another blunder that demonstrates three things. The myth of Israeli supremacy. The brutality of the IOF The end is nigh.. Sleep well
14. White flag was up BEFORE soldiers boarded
William ,   Israel   (06.04.10)
Then the soldiers were attacked as they boarded (without weapons drawn). That shows these activists set up a trap and used the white flag to promote the wrong message. It's not the first time terrorists have done this in order to get close to troops to kill.
15. #6 - your ilk are pretty quick to accept Leftist excerpts
William ,   Israel   (06.04.10)
When France did a documentary on Al-Dura based on a snippet of footage and described Israel as murderers, your ilk accepted it 100%. That video was analyzed over and over by independent researchers and found that it was a set-up. Courts of law demanded France 2 released the whole video, but neither the original videographer (a Palestinian) nor France 2 would back down or produce the raw footage. Smells like you're already biased and have double-standards.
16. #7 - not according to Intl Law they weren't
William ,   Israel   (06.04.10)
Pirates attack a ship to steal it. The iDF acted to enforce a legal blockade, and under San Remo 1994 convention they had the right to board the ships the minute they left port. You may not like the blockade but while its in effect Israel has the right to enforce it, and it shall.
17. They just can't stand it when Israel fights back
Raymond in DC ,   Washington, DC USA   (06.04.10)
What's coming out of the ongoing investigation, and even from some activists who started talking, includes the following: * dozens of activists were in fact well trained militants, organized into multiple units * spent cartridges were found of a type not used by the IDF were recovered * at least one "activist" admitted to throwing guns overboard * captured videos from on-site and journalist cameras confirm the IDF claims One shouldn't ignore two precedents that may have sparked Israel's ultimately forceful response - the two soldiers who were lynched in 2000 after wandering into Ramallah, and Gilad Shalit. The IDF was not going to allow yet more hostages to fall into Hamas' hands.
18. Pakistan mosque bomb kills dozens
Michel Bodenheimer ,   Givatayim, Israel   (06.04.10)
A week or two ago, two bombs went up in Pakistani Mosques, killing 90 people. Where is the public outcry? Wher's the call for an international investigation?
19. Same old story
Greatchina ,   Australia   (06.04.10)
Israel and Jews are never right! Arabs and muslims never wrong! How much is enough? Lies had lost its meaning! But truth prevail without fear............1948 was the worst for the jews and best time to destroy Israel! God must be infront and behind u israel!!!!! Fear not!
20. #11 - they dismiss anything that contradicts their narrative
William ,   Israel   (06.04.10)
BBC, CNN, Financial Times, and even Maan (PA news) all reported that there was no real humanitarian crisis in Gaza, let alone starvation, and reported so many electrical and food items in Gaza shops that the prices have dropped resulting in tunnel owners closing some of the tunnels because they're losing money. They dismiss these articles as propaganda because of some of the destroyed buildings from last year in a small part of NE Gaza. To them this is a humanitarian crisis....the same crushed buildings existed in Central China after the earthquake and not dubbed a humanitarian crisis. North Philadelphia also has destroyed and abandoned buildings with a large portion of unemployed....and that is not considered a humanitarian crisis either.
21. Amazing to hear "all knowing" claims of activists
William ,   Israel   (06.04.10)
There were 692 people on that boat, most are the lower decks and asleep - yet they all seem to have recollections of what happened in places at the other end of the boat. Take the white flag for instance - if one person raises a white flag but another is hitting a soldier with a metal pipe...which do you think will be interpreted first?? Second, Bulent Yildirim claims his side didn't shoot first. Can he prove it? How does he know what each of the 100+ violent activists did, even for a second? Sarah Colborne reeks of biasness and seems she had a statement already before he event happened. The Palestine Solidarity Campaign is virulently anti-Israel and has said they wish it replaced with a Palestinian State. "bristling with arms" - a paintball gun (slung across the back) and a small pistol (in a side holster). "Sound and gas bombs went off" - as one of the videos shows it came from the activists' side. Clearly Sarah has an agenda, which was her reason for joining the flotilla, and that is the demonization of Israel at any price, even to the truth.
22. Damned hypocrits!
Ram ,   London   (06.04.10)
The article is all based on what the "humantarian" passengers say. What do you expect? Was there the slightest outcry with regards to the Bangkok slaughter? No! No oil there, no Jews involved. Some Europeans will have a tough time in hell while watching the arab martyrs cannodle with their virgins. Good luck Israel.Stay strong! You are righteous and we love you for it!
23. o how bord are you irland,go home
ytel   (06.04.10)
to your cup of beer,you forgot your days ........
24. Turkey is pulling a con job on the World
Dan ,   USA   (06.04.10)
From the people who eliminated all those dangerous Armenians and who practice apartheid against Kurds are now going to lecture Israel about human rights. See the video: "We con the World" by the Flotilla Choir: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FOGG_osOoVg
25. #13 - being elected doesn't meaning having to be accepted
William ,   Israel   (06.04.10)
The Nazis were also elected into power but the rest of the world did not have to accept them and their supremacist ideology. Same here - fine, Hamas was elected. The only people who have to contend with that is...the Gazans who elected them. The rest of us have no obligation to do business with them. That's also part of democracy, is it not? Second - Hamas declared war on Israel after being elected. Again, Israel is not obligated to be nice to an enemy that wants to kill them. The US doesn't with its enemies, nor does the UK, or even Iran. Finally, according to PLO Legislation, the President may dissolve parliament for several reasons. One of them was the illegal bloody coup Hamas led to gain power. Now THAT was a blood bath - total massacre of the other side. If you still demand that Hamas should be welcomed in European capitals as leaders and considered the rightful govt of the "Palestinians" then you do not believe in democracy at all, because you took away their right to make and follow their own laws, and you took away the right for Europeans to follow their own laws (not dealing with terrorist groups). hence, you're a hypocrite, a liar, and anti-democratic. BTW - recent polls shows less than 20% are behind Hamas because all the "change and reform" they promised never happened.
26. Looney tunes in Israel
Mikesailor ,   Miami, FL   (06.04.10)
Why don't Israelis want all of the video and pictures 'captured' by the IDF to be published? Not selectively edited by the military but all the raw footage? If Israel has nothing to hide and the crew and passengers on the ship were 'terrorists', then why the military censorship? Perhaps the only ones in the world that do not want the truth published, ALL the truth and nothing but the truth, seem to be Israelis and their apologists. So, far, Israel has done nothing but provide half-baked excuses for their censorship and Israelis, as a whole, seem to be satisfied with the propaganda effort coordinated by their government. Why?
27. ISRAEL
ronmakaron   (06.04.10)
Israel and usa is the only sane force Understanding the need to stop the Muslims European feeding a crocodile, hoping it will eat him last Wake up and discover that Europe is becoming largest Muslim state in the world Another thing I know the unit carried out the operation - they killed because she was a real danger to their life If u will live with Muslims around you will quickly drag in to fights less
28. What I hate the most...
Alexis Sitton ,   San Juan PR   (06.04.10)
Why, the Israeli Goverment let those criminals go back to their countries without Trail? Those mercenaries will come back at Israel with the full support of Arabs,Europeans, Iranians and the likes in the second Goldstein Report. What will happen then? What the heck, we already know the answer.
29. Amazing video
Max   (06.04.10)
If the Flotilla Raid strikes a nerve with you, you must see this video www.youtube.com/watch?v=FOGG_osOoVg also: www.youtube.com/watch?v=b3L7OV414Kk
30. Cameraman
J.K. ,   Brooklyn USA   (06.05.10)
Whats the fuss over the deaths of 9Jihadists who died while on a mission of terror,in pakistan,Afganistan every day Jihadists are being killed by NATO forces including civilians,no oucry from the do gooders,they are very selective,and have flexible principals.
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