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New footage from Marmara ship: 'Millions of martyrs to Gaza'
Roni Sofer
Published: 18.06.10, 14:54
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31. Volkan the irony is that the IHH is proud
David Israel ,   New York, USA   (06.18.10)
Th eIHH has been giving interviews to the press telling them how proud they are of these acts that we see on these videos. Unlike the real peace activists from other nations on the Rachel Corrie, they admitted that they were there for a MUBAREK GAZA and to become SEHIT. The rule of law is that when you provoke a fight and you got beaten you have no recourse. As Judge Judy in the USA say it is the "you asked for it you got it" rule.
32. Come on...
AARON ,   NY   (06.18.10)
POOR IDF.................POOR ISRAELIS...
33. You don't deserve that name!
Maurice ,   Montreal   (06.18.10)
You don't deserve your name, the name of the great Kemal Ataturk. Supporters of Islamists and Jihadists like you are spitting on his sacred grave!
34. on cowards, humiliation and pride
Duchess   (06.18.10)
That seems to be all they really care about! God loves the humble not the proud. Pride is nonsense.
35. noble cause
Sukara ,   Turkey   (06.18.10)
these people represent something unbroken within muslims, despite a hundred years of misery since the end of ottoman empire, the last true muslim state. and this is a simple warning to everyone that they can impose everything on muslims without getting a real response. you took what you took for a century, and it is just time to pay back!
36. unarmed ship, my %^@^))!!!
Ilana   (06.18.10)
Now the world can you see all for who you are-outright liars!!! Jeez! How many times can we all see the pictures of metal rods, knives, axes, and guns thrown overboard??? How can you lie so easily when it is so obviously a lie. I guess one needs intelligence even to be a good liar.
37. Next Turkish flotilla
TAHRIR QUDS ALYAHUDI   (06.18.10)
arrest everyone adns let them stand trial in Israel under Israeli rule and if found gulity put them in prison.The ships ti be confiscated and not to be returned.
38. Cowards
J.K. ,   Brooklyn USA   (06.18.10)
Allah no like mad dogs.
39. Gazaniz Mubarek Olsun
JUDAH THE LION   (06.18.10)
how it can be holy.These stupid people needs to have their brains to be tested or they may have donkey brains Allah their god of the moon cannot fight with our G D in heaven who is protecting Israel and Nation. .
40. IHH "invited journalists to examine the cargo"
William ,   Israel   (06.18.10)
Having journalists comment on the cargo is not "complete transparency. Allowing an IDF contingent to go through the cargo is much better and considered more credible. The fact still remains - whether you're sending flowers or rockets, the blockade is legal and trying to break it will result in military action. You're breaking the law, whether you agree with it or not.
41. #16 - and yet this is only ship that attacked IDF
William ,   Israel   (06.18.10)
all the other ships, probably without the violent Turks and Muslim instigators, did nothing and the incident ended peacefully. Even if the translation is wrong, the message is clear - the Turkish ship was readying for a fight, were armed, and fully welcomed martyrdom. That's a lot different than simply bringing humanitarian aid as they claimed. Either way, it pokes holes in the Turk's narrative.
42. Turkey has become a Jihadist muslim state
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43. :: Mahogany - #6
Matty Groves ,   Fairport   (06.18.10)
Generally I have always used the term ‘civilian’. Good for ye, submit all this evidence to an independent body for review. Go ahead, bring it all to an international court. No it doesn’t, only $hit which contains fat, floats.
44. Matty Groves, #43
mouse   (06.18.10)
Well, terrorists are also civilians. Those were terrorists. 9/11 "peace action" was also done by civilians. Civilians can pose threats and can fight innocent civilians, policemen or even army fighters. We know, we have plenty of such "civilians" in Israel and in adjacent territories. You naturally believe terrorists but Israel, the only non-muslim country in the middle east has to show proof? You are BIASED. Start by believing your friends, then ask for proof from terrorists that they came in peace. Sorry, we don't have to be judged for defending ourselves, let alone the fact that the UN and the international court are biased as a result of muslim pressure. Just open your eyes, read some history, listen to your moral, and don't forget: NOT ALWAYS THE WEAK IS THE RIGHTEOUS.
45. doublespeak
Fabio ,   Rome, Italy   (06.18.10)
this reminds me Arafat who, speaking to international audiences used a soft language, but while addressing 'his' audiences he used to invoke (others') martyrdom
46. #22 - because commandos are trained for ship boarding
William ,   Israel   (06.18.10)
Not policemen. And thank G-d commandos were there. After it became apparent that these "activists" were armed savages, they certainly would have killed a lesser trained Israeli team. It could've have ended peacefully like the other 5 ships but IHH "activists" obviously had something else in mind.
47. #20 there are videos of these "civilians" holding knives
William ,   Israel   (06.18.10)
and firing weapons. Did you miss them? BTW - 3 to 5 bullets per person during a violent lynch is not "so many" except for morons who speak from ignorance about the security industry. Check it out - in even lesser violent situations, you can see people hit with up to 20 bullets. Curious - when will you call for the release of the raw "al-Dura" footage held illegally by France 2 for the world to see? Apparently, you support full-disclosure unless it doesn't work in your favor....just like how you support Intl laws.
48. #43 - You generally use the term "civilian" wrong
William ,   Israel   (06.18.10)
You claim these activists - especially all those shot - were "civilians" despite the fact they were armed and did attack IDF troops. That squarely places them in the "non-civilian" category per Intl law (which you sometimes cite and almost always bastardize). You've also claimed during Cast Lead that those killed were all "civilians" despite the fact that Hamas and PRC dispute that claim, and many were seen on video and in testimony as armed but in civilian clothes. Refer to the earlier paragraph re: Intl Law.
49. #35 - when will you be rolling back Arab States?
William ,   Israel   (06.18.10)
Because this too was imposed on Muslims post-Ottoman. I look forward to seeing Jordan, Iraq, Saudi Arabia, Yemen, Bahrain, Qatar, Kuwait, Lebanon, Syria, and parts of Iran and Turkey, dismantled into their tribal components before the British and the French created artificial borders and hand-picked leaders. The post-Ottoman Turks can begin by helping to bring back "Kurdistan", land which was sucked into 4 modern-day States.
50. mutty groves
Linichka ,   Gdynia, Poland   (06.18.10)
"No it doesn’t, only $hit which contains fat, floats" Then shall we be on the lookout for you bobbing about, sullying the Mediterranean Sea, any time soon?
51. Matty #43
norman ,   France, Eurabia   (06.18.10)
so you are an expert in shit ;-)))
52. peaceful Turks - didn't they jsut behead a priest there?
William ,   Israel   (06.18.10)
http://www.news24.com/World/News/Turkish-Catholic-leader-beheaded-20100608?tr=y&auid=6502338 A sign of Turkey's future no doubt, and Turkish Christians fate mirroring that of Copts in Egypt.
53. Oh those videos!
observer   (06.18.10)
almost all the activists were wearing white or light color life jackets. Then, at 0:34-0:36 of the video you will find the soldier in dark uniform grasping the white life jacket stripped from over the activist whom the soldier had just thrown to lower deck. Watch the soldiers in dark uniform and masks .. and clubs in their hands beating enthusiastically the activists : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-bSKYO7Jhmc The Arabic translator says "kick them to water", not throw them into water, who said commandos would drop from air, the Turk man never said they would drop from air, but all he kept saying the commandos will come via Israeli Fleet (navy), and logically kicked out to water; not thrown. The man called on his people to not show fear & self-defend themselves? Your interpretation is intentionally doctored as the IDF audio.
54. :: OMG!
Matty Groves ,   Fairport   (06.18.10)
I watched the video and I can’t believe that the Ynuts are getting their knickers in a twist over such a harmless video. Nothing in the video has ‘hateful’ nor was there any ‘incitement to cause harm’. I guess the proof of the pudding will be when these civilians on a ship carrying humanitarian aid defend themselves from a brutal Israeli attack.
55. The ship should have been sunk by the
jason white ,   afula,israel   (06.18.10)
Israeli navy. They should have sunk the first ship months ago. They should sink every pali fishing boat.
56. Great Video
Cynthia ,   USA   (06.18.10)
Excellent piece of evidence recording true intention of IHH "martyrs" with pre-meditated plan to attack IDF soldiers.
57. And will this now open
Sunshine ,   in Germany   (06.18.10)
the UN, EU and etc.the eyes what's really going on and what the real intentions of these people are? I'm frustrated by the reaction of the UN, EU-politician and my own government
58. #36
Marilyn ,   USA   (06.18.10)
It's almost like Israel doesn't really know what a non-violence group is supposed to look like, so the people involved with this flotilla are just taking advantage of this. Maybe there just aren't many non-violence activists/organizations over there. So it's easy for the flotilla people to say some nice pretty words and no one is really going to question them about it. However with us, we'd ask them questions and maybe even do investigation about their beliefs about non-violence in general, not situational.
59. So easy to wind up..
Keith M   (06.18.10)
Are you all completely blind/willfully ignorant? Do you not understand anything about these Muslims? The speech is morale boosting, they were apprehensive knowing the violent history of the IDF. The speech is telling them not to turn back, and to ' throw them in the sea' does not mean to kill people. Is this how easily the Israeli government manipulates? By the way where are the hundreds of tapes and photos stolen from the activists? The world want to see them.
60. "Millions of martyrs marching to Gaza,"
Elyah ,   Los Angeles   (06.18.10)
too bad there were only 9 martyrs!
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