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Lebanese flotilla expected this weekend; same commandos to stop it
Hanan Greenberg
Published: 21.06.10, 18:56
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1. Be careful..
John ,   Herzliya, Israel   (06.21.10)
..and good luck. Btw, have you noticed that Erdogan is not barking for two days in row?
2. "All available virgins, please report to the front desk" !!!
flyingdoc57 ,   Florida, U.S.A.   (06.21.10)
3. More provocation, it s time to . . .
AlbertoGA ,   St. George, USA   (06.21.10)
Sink the SOB
4. THIS ONE IS FILLED WITH HEZBOLLAH OPERATVES.. TORPEDO IT!
(06.21.10)
5. 8 Rowboats Vs Israeli Missile Ships. So What
Dav Lev ,   Burbank. CAUSA   (06.21.10)
The US sent over 100,000 troops, with thousands of vehicles and tens of thousand of weapons into Iraq ( stymied by Turkish refusal to allow from it's territory), Afterwards, it was analyzed there were mistakes. But, we were victorious in 3 weeks. Yet, we are still there 8 yrs later. Israels defense dept did not anticipate it's problems fully. The result, more violence than expected. It happens. The bottom line: Israel stopped the illegal flotilla. In war, mistakes are made. We erred striking Iwo Jima and thousands were lost in the first wave. In the end, we beat the Japanese (and Germany). Let's not focus too much on the micro. Israel signed cease fires (Hez/Hamas) prematurely under US, EU, UN pressures, before surrender and is paying for it. Some battles cannot be victory. It's called hindsight. Israel could have blown those ships out of the water and still can. What would be accomplished in the overall war for it's survival. I would worry more about Iran's Shahabs and Syria's S300 missiles than a few baby powder ladened boats into Gaza. RR? Israel never can win that one.
6. Etz Hayim vs The Word. Who Cares
Dav Lev ,   Burbank. CAUsA   (06.21.10)
Israel can never win the RR wars..5.5m Jews vs 1.4b Muslims ( 150m Turks/Iranians) and millions of Pales European/So. American supporters). You crunch the numbers. Standwith US gets several thousand to march, while Iran-Turkey gets millions. Marches for Israel in NY gets several thousand (and otther cities), while back in Islamland, they get tens of millions. It's called so what!. When 10m US Christians march for Israel, now that is something else. Yet some Jews dismiss Christian support as their goal of conversions. So what else is new? I get solicitations from Christian Zionist groups..(who want me to see the light and "word") I say okay, read Etz Hayim, so what. We can still agree that Islamic fascism is the real enemy while Al Qaeda threatens worldwide.
7. why dont you just blow them out of
peggy ,   uk   (06.21.10)
the sea, sink them.....the palies have plenty there, and all this is provocation, ...its a "its make israel look bad "month! Do gooders your help is needed elsewhere, just take a look, try and get your eyes averted from israel and gaza for a while, just see what is going on.
8. Naval commandos
Barbara ,   Haifa Israel   (06.21.10)
Is it not possible to use tranquilizer guns this time ?
9. Safety First!
Max ,   Washington DC   (06.21.10)
The Israeli Navy and Commandos should exert extreme caution in boarding the activist/terrorist ships approaching Gaza. Recommend -first hailing ships to stop engines and communicating a boarding agreement. If unacceptable response - Fire Warning Shots. If continued unacceptable response - Disable the ship and call the UN to tow the ships back to their point of origin. If still unacceptable response - board the ship using non-lethal crowd control tactics - tear gas and non lethal force. If terrorist use force to resist or ambush commandos - capture and try the resistors as Iranian sponsored terrorists.
10. Right on Alberto
flyingdoc57 ,   Florida, U.S.A.   (06.21.10)
Here in Tampa we have a cute saying - if it walks like a fish and talk like a fish it must be a red herring. Same with these pal loving lefties they are only faking their motives just like those dockworkers in California who prevented the Zim ship from unloading, I’d give them a piece of my mind if I had half a mind! It is time that Israel was not afraid to kick the sh*t out of its enemies. The world will always hate us because we're Jewish and not because of what we have done to the palestinians for the last sixty years.
11. Weak Kneed Lebanese
M Carr ,   Baltimore   (06.21.10)
Oh this is beautiful! "Meanwhile, Lebanese Minister of Transportation Ghazi Aridi said Cyprus was responsible for the flotilla's progress. He said the vessels will set sail from Tripoli and that the Cypriot government will have to decide whether it allows them to enter the country's territorial waters en route to Gaza". This doesn’t appear to be an enthusiastic show of support for this latest flotilla. It seems the Lebanese/Hezbollah Government is pulling a Pontias Pilate. The ball is now in the Cypriot court.
12. Criminal act
GobeMedia ,   Szeklerland   (06.21.10)
It is a criminal act to intercept foreign ships in international waters and Israel is not above the international law!
13. Will Lebanon find its way out of the grip of bigotry and ...
Ron B. ,   Lod   (06.21.10)
Will Lebanon find its way out of the grip of bigotry and terror? Across the Lebanon border, Israelis may have once found a culture not so distant from their own, with mercy, decorum and “rules of engagement” even in times of conflict. The Lebanese will have to retrieve that older world if they are to find their way out of the grip of bigotry and terror. A decent country would be under no moral or political obligation to celebrate a murderer as a heroic son returning from a long captivity. More about the reality of the M-E at : http://xrl.us/kkxrc
14. Hesbullah needs to be humiliated at sea
John   (06.21.10)
Why should commandos risk their lives to board a ship full of posible suicide bombers? we know they could not care less about lives, it's enough for them if they succeed to harm one commando it will be a victory for them . Israel should find a way to disable the ship after giving them warning not to proceed and tow it out to drift in the high seas. Hesbulah want's and needs violence, lets Israel deprive them.
15. WHY oh why bother boarding any ships?
Avi ,   Geneva   (06.21.10)
JUST disable their propellers or rudders on the high seas, and leave them there. Let them or their friends tow them back to their own ports. There is no need for the IDF to have any personal contact with any of these people, whoever they are (pacifists or terrorists) - and no need to tow their boats or ships into Israeli ports! Don't reward provocation and entangle yourselves. If they want to send humanitarian aid to Gaza through Israel, let them apply formally and through the proper channels for it.
16. 'PEACE ACTIVISTS' TAIUNG PRECAUTIONS.....
Ian ,   Newcastle upon Tyne,   (06.21.10)
...they're packing the ships with human shield dupes. I wonder if they'll bring any babies into the war zone,this time. THREE CHEERS FOR ISRAEL!!!
17. To John from Herzelia #1
Barry ,   Tokyo   (06.21.10)
Neither is the foolish Brazilian comic duo of Lula and his outdated marxist FM Amorim who just announced that they have thrown in the towel publicly defending Iranians fascists.
18. To: No. 12
Sarah B ,   U.S.A. / Israel   (06.21.10)
You are wrong. The criminal act -- actually, a casus belli -- is any attempt to run a fully-legal and internationally-recognized blockade imposed by Israel. Hamas has engaged in constant hostilities against Israel -- Israel has every right to impose a blockade. If you do not know anything about international law and principles of maritime interdiction, don't address the topic. Unless, of course, you don't mind making a complete fool of yourself.
19. It does not matter if there are only women
Harry Wright ,   UK   (06.21.10)
on one of the vessels. The objective is the same - blockade-busting. Stop the vessels by any means. Instead of sending women, Nasrallah himself should be on that vessel which should have been named Aisha, instead of hiding behind stupid women and getting them to do his dirty work. Then we would have seen if those half-baked "Christian" women would have supported Islamic provocation, thereby becoming tools for Islam - in direct opposition to what the "Queen of Peace" stands for. They have to be total idiots or bogus Christians to be taken in by semantics and terrorist / Islamic deceptions and maneuverings. And it gets even better. The Lebanese Minister of Transportation gives permission for the flotilla to travel to Gaza in an attempt to bust the Gaza blockade, accepts responsibility for it in one breath, then in the next, says it is the responsibility of Cyprus. It sure as hell sounds like he is afraid of the women and dares not stop them. So he gives his blessings for them to go off into a confrontation, hoping that Cyprus solves the problem for him. Blockade-busting has run itself out for the time being. I guess those caught "mid-air" still have to internalize this since they don't want to lose their moment of glory.
20. PM/IDF should protect Israel
Ronald P. Reitz ,   Spring Hill, Florida   (06.21.10)
It appears that the Prime Minister is bluckling under international pressure to life the blockade of Gaza. The Islamic militants had better be glad that I am not the Prime Minister. I would have moved everyone out of Gaza entirely and put them in the West Bank. I would have told them, "There, that is what you get when you try to kill Israelis with rockets. Keep it up and you'll lose the West Bank too. I like the Israeli Prime Minister but he should not buckle to diplomatic pressure. It is clear that Israel has a right to exist and to defend itself and its citizens. Lifting the blockade only encourages Hamas/Iran to do more to get arms into Gaza. The policy of appeasement has never worked. Any student of history knows this. Although I am Christian, my heart is with the Israelis in their struggle to live in peace. Unfortunately, the Islamic countries do not want peace. They won't be happy until they have accomplished another Holocaust. Please let the Prime Minister know that he needs to stand up against Hamas, not appease them by removing the blockade. Ron, USA
21. Post # 10 is not my post...
flyingdoc57 ,   Florida, U.S.A.   (06.21.10)
...though I must say, I do not disagree with its sentiment.
22. Flying Doc
Gary Moskovitz ,   Clearwater, Florida   (06.21.10)
Are you sure? It sounds like you, you know so sweet, dedicated, generous, brown hair & eyes and always guarantees a great experience.
23. #12: #18 gave you a good lesson. Learn from her.
Israeli 2   (06.21.10)
24. commsissions of inquiry
alexi   (06.21.10)
In police tactics, youi prepare for the worst and work backwards. Statement like we didn't plan on erdogans ITT terrorists are stupid. Assume savages are mixed on board with the others and deal with them. One israeli said hose the deck and use stun grenades to disable the lynchers. M4eanwhile, the dean of crooks and cowards, olmert tries to take revenge against barak by blaming for the seige on gaza. Olmert would sell his wife to arab slave traders for a fancy pen, cigar or watch and to save his own hide. That the chosen people could have such a failure as one of them really suggests that the jews should write the religious books and delete chosen people. Not with olmert picking erdogan in whom to trust israel security, and barak for planning for the best on the avi marmora.
25. To: Flyingdoc57 at No. 21
Sarah B ,   U.S.A. / Israel   (06.21.10)
Oh, I disagree with this: "I’d give them a piece of my mind if I had half a mind!" You, sir, have considerably better than half a mind, and I never saw any indication in any of the posts you have composed -- and I have probably read them all -- that you engage in silly self-deprecating comments. I think you have the appropriate degree of self-esteem and are comfortable enough in your skin so as not to diminish yourself in such a manner.
26. Why, thank you Gary (# 22)...
flyingdoc57 ,   Florida, U.S.A.   (06.21.10)
I didn't know you were such a fan.
27. We can end this early and quickly
William ,   Israel   (06.21.10)
Rather than waiting for the ships to reach Gazan waters, if they are coming from Lebanon (as they claim), the minute the reach the lateral border with Israel (even in Intl waters), Israel should act. Disable the boat, tow it back to the edge of Lebanese waters, call a NATO ship to come and get these sea hags.
28. #20 Thanks for your support, Ronald : )
Mark ,   Lodz, Poland   (06.21.10)
29. Thank You, Sarah (# 25)...
flyingdoc57 ,   Florida, U.S.A.   (06.21.10)
The post to which you are referring (#10) is not my posting, as I noted in post # 21. The usual juvenile delinquent who posts under familiar names here at Ynet is at it again. Probably the same one who posts pro-Israel comments using the names of Michael Hess and Matty Groves. It's usually not difficulty to recognize the fraudulent postings. In this case, however, he/she posted a pro-Israel comment using my name...makes it more difficult to decipher real from fake. Thanks again,though, and keep up your good work. It does not go unnoticed or unappreciated.
30. Thank You Sarah
flyingdoc57 ,   Florida, U.S.A   (06.21.10)
That is very kind of you to say so. Can I return the kindness by saying I am always impressed with your vibrant comments and ability to cut down the Jew haters at the knees. I have often imagined you coming to my door wearing a mini-skirt, and saying, "Can I come in?" We’d go to a cafe, have a great time and ends with ...well who knows?. As you know I'm very sweet so you're guaranteed a great experience. Be sure to have an imagination and maybe a few candles. Don't forget - Please don't tell your husband!
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