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Paying the price of lies
Eti Abramov
Published: 26.07.10, 15:36
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1. Disinformation
Augustus   (07.26.10)
It was not mentioned in this story that a Jewish man was convicted of a similar crime 2 years ago when he lied to her by saying that he could help her find housing if she had sex with him. The court also said clearly that the conviction was not that he lied about not saying that he was Arab, but rather that he told a string of lies.
2. Moving
Moshe ,   Haifa   (07.26.10)
If I have to believe this guy, I am moving to Jerusalem
3. i dont feel sorry for the girl at all!!!
mira ,   israel   (07.26.10)
what kind of girl has sex after 10 minuts of meeting someone?? the kind who deserves this.
4. 1 - lying is deplorable but no country n the modern world
dave   (07.26.10)
uses it as grounds for rape. This has a very stinking smell to it.
5. Disgrace
Dan ,   Australia   (07.26.10)
He is obviously a sleazebag but no a rapist. And he is right - if she was so concerned about sleeping with an Arab, then she would have asked him if he was one.
6. not rape
Birdi ,   Israel   (07.26.10)
This Arab should not be jailed for "sex under false pretence." I hope he wins his appeal.
7. # 2
Birdi ,   Israel   (07.26.10)
Be sure you own a bike !!
8. Sorry he is a married cheater and a Liar
Norman   (07.26.10)
He got much less than he deserved. It is amazing how All these lefties will go out for an arab criminal. You guys are sick.
9. # 3
Birdi ,   Israel   (07.26.10)
Thats exactly what I was thinking.
10. Morals do not enter into this
Sagi   (07.26.10)
It is nobody's business in what cicumstances two people have concensual sex, after ten minutes or ten days. There is no law or regulation or even general understanding that a person has to declare his or her religion, race or ethnicity before entering into an act of a sexual nature with someone. This man did not deceive anyone and he has been wrongly treated by the law. It is my considered opinion that at some future date this country will be a binational state and intermarriage will be a common thing. It is on the cards and is inevitable, despite the extreme right etc. I am not from the looney left, I am merely a realist and a pragmatist. Nature shall take its course, it always has done. Dudu should go home to his wife and face her wrath, not that of the warped justice meted out to him.
11. # 8 Norman
Sagi   (07.26.10)
Calling this man a criminal is very inappropriate. If anyone is sick I would say it is you. He did not lie as I have explained in another post and if he cheated then that is between himself and his family, his morals are not your affair and people are not sentened to imprisonment for immorality, judged by their fellow beings and friends, but not sentenced in court.
12. This is about problem of justice dept not arab relations
Slingshot   (07.26.10)
In Israel, if you are arrested, you are guilty. ask any law student - more than 95% of arrests are found guilty. for a democracy, that is insane. This guy was wrongfully arrested and wrongly charged. And convicted. it sucks. but it is not because he is Arab. Perhaps the jump to charge him was because he was Arab, but not the conviction. The justice system in Israel is simply embarrassing. and as a Jewish citizen of Israel, i am fearful that one day I will be wrongfully arrested and charged for something i did not do. The judge will say - either 10 years in jail, or sign here and it will be one year - but you are going away. And that is how it works here all the time.
13. #8 - Norman
Dino Domingo ,   Vancouver, Canada   (07.26.10)
Norman you are obviously blinded by extremism! The guy may be a sleaze bag but the woman is a whore... how convenient you just comment on the Arab and fail to comment on the Jewish whore!
14. Nope, not rape!
Salma ,   Palestine   (07.26.10)
the woman should also be punished for racist How many "Israeli" woman pretended she was something else, and slept with the Palestinian men, for different objectives ,did not go to jail ?!
15. Belong to the country??
Jasem ,   Dubai   (07.26.10)
You belong to the country because you are a native of it, you idiot. Not because the colonizers said you belonged to it.
16. Rape ?
Paul ,   USA   (07.26.10)
I don't think so, but he could be prosecuted for false advertising.
17. Dark day for Israeli justice system
Rami of Nazareth ,   Israel   (07.26.10)
It is becoming more clear, in the Israeli justice system not all are equal in front of the law. It is more like Apartheid where court ruling is based on race/ethnic background not severity of crime
18. Complicated but here we go.
Yaakov ,   Jerusalem, Israel   (07.26.10)
First I must disclose that i am not a radical leftist but on the right side which of course the right! :-) LOL Based on facts and not myths of the left.... I support the people of Israel's right to the land of ISrael and not the Arab occupation...however... I don't support the verdict though he is a cheater and liar (but do not forget that a Jew was also convicted for lying to obtain sex as well!). I believe this could set a dangerous precedent where any lie or exaggeration could net a person a prison sentence and fine. On the other hand-though the woman was "stupid"- she did not have all the facts before her rash decision. He trys to get around it but by telling her that his name is Dudu he is in fact broadcasting that he is Jewish (Dudu is a diminutive of Da'vid NOT Da'oud) as well as lying claiming he is single. So she assumed he was Jewish. The woman initially did the wrong thing in court. However, the woman, demonstrably, has irrevocable dammages. She did not possess accurate information on which to base a decision and since she has had sexual relations NOT with an Arab (that doesn't matter) but that she had sexual relations with any non-Jew therefore she cannot not marry at least 5% of the Jewish population who are cohanim (priestly class direct decendants of Aaron the brother of Moses/Moshe) So though I disagree with the judegment or more accuractelt with the charge...she did receive damage. I told you this was complicated! Have great day/evening.
19. decision provoked outrage in the Arab
Rehavam ,   Israel   (07.26.10)
community. Can I as a jew date arab-moslim woman? Will relatives kill me quick or make me suffer?
20. The Real Double Standard
Frankie Littlehammer ,   New Herstal, TX, USA   (07.26.10)
As other talkbackers already pointed out in earlier articles, what would happen in a Muslim country to a man pretending to be a Muslim having sex with a Muslim woman? At best there would be a forced conversion and marriage, but most likely there would be death. Mr. Kashour and Muslims in general probably agree with that kind of Islamic punishment, and it is so natural, so self-evident to them that it's never mentioned, and Western friends of Arabs don't notice and think the Muslim world is a paradise of some kind. Of course the sentence is too high, but it needs not turn into ant-Israel propaganda. To Muslims, the people who are not Muslims are not equal but beings of a lesser kind, and to Muslim men, all non-Muslim women are sex objects and slaves. This case would be a good opportunity to show the real double standard in the Muslim world.
22. If her "friend" had set her up...
Orly ,   Jerusalem, Israel   (07.26.10)
If she had been set up by a friend or ex-acquaintance (whose old boyfriend she had dated and was looking to get back at her) and was told by her that this was a Jewish guy, while the "Arab" was completely out of the loop and was told that the girl new he was an Arab and simply did not bring it up. If this had been the case and both parties to the consensual sex were misled by a Jewish girl from Tel Aviv who was just playing a prank - would that girl be in prison now for rape? Would that girl now be paying nearly $3K in damages? I think that is a question very well worth answering, and it should go to the root of whether anyone can see justice in this course of unfortunate events (and our shame that the girl who was so quick to open her legs for a guy she did not know to receive payment for it afterwards, while the judicial system is not only privy to this, but the catalyst!).
23. The problem is the Arab hate of Jews is materialized via
Frank ,   USA   (07.26.10)
their "machismo", doing the Jewish women.
24. He is a liar and should go to jail.
Dan ,   USA   (07.26.10)
25. Jail would be good for him. He hates Israel.
Cathy ,   USA   (07.26.10)
That is his way to get back at Israel. Sick person he is.
26. Blame the victim
Mordechai   (07.26.10)
Feminists generally scream about blaiming the victim in the case of rape But when the rapist is an Arab its OK to call the woman a whore. Yes it is not believable she said yes to sex after 10 minutes of knowing him. Its much more believable she was telling the truth when she said she was forcibly raped and this Arab rapist is getting off too easy.
27. What a stupid "case"
Linichka ,   Gdynia, Poland   (07.26.10)
Let the guy go, for G-d's sake. He should never have been arrested. In my opinion, his accuser is a dumb slut who was prepared to do it with any passing male - her problem if she happened to bag a man she considered racially verbotem. This case is disgusting and embarrassing. Let him go and with compensation.
28. I love it...it shows Israel in all it's democratuc glory ..
Edithann ,   USA   (07.26.10)
29. Sex only 15 minutes after they met??
William ,   Israel   (07.26.10)
Considering this...I doubt any change in the information would have dissuaded these two from engaging in sex, unless he was a murderer or some other deviant. The fact that he's an adulterer makes no difference here.
30. Why doesn't it work for me?
David ,   NYC   (07.26.10)
My name is Dave (and in Israel some people call me Dudu. I look very much like Kashour, i.e. overweight and balding and of the same age. I am Jewish AND single. However, in all the times that I have visited Israel no girl has ever approached me to have sex after 10 minutes. It always takes a small talk of at least 15 minutes. Can Kashour please teach us the secrets of his success?
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