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'Abbas to give negotiations green light by September'
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Published: 30.07.10, 08:44
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1. Responding to Arab League's decision Hamas bombs Ashkelon
Eric ,   Tel Aviv & New York   (07.30.10)
This is the kind of peace talks we can expect: every announcement will be met with an attack from a dissatisfied terrorist group trying to prevent an end to the hostilities and trying to prevent a Palestinian State. Abbas needs to get his own house in order before he can negotiate a real peace.
2. Wait until hell freezes over.
Terry ,   Eilat - Israel   (07.30.10)
I just love how much attention the media gives to non-news. This isn't news, it's nonsense, the same nonsense we've been hearing for how many years? But, the media loves BS. Most journalists lean left so we have to excuse how slow they are, they're just not too swift when it comes to figuring out the real world. But, in the real world, where the rest of us live, this is meaningless nonsense. Why does it matter if there are direct talks? Everyone sane knows nothing will come of the talks. The Palestinians do not want peace. Abbas will make zero concessions, quite the contrary, they keep adding new demands. The Palestinians, both Hamas & Fatah, are holding out for total victory, meaning, our elimination. They expect to get everything without negotiating - they want Obama, the EU, & the UN to declare an independant state without our consent or agreement. Such a new state, a state imposed upon us (so think the Palestinians) will initiate a new phase of conflict to finish us off. That's the plan.
3. # 2 very funny Terry
Palestinian   (07.30.10)
Yes that's the plan. "Israel" was imposed upon us in Palestine without any consent or agreement. Whats wrong of doing the same, live in peace? or Why not accept the Arab plan of 2002, 67 borders for full peace?
4. Abbas, being the emissary of the Arab League, is not likely
Jehudah Ben-Israel ,   Qatzrin, Israel   (07.30.10)
to achieve a thing as long as he and those who have sent him refuse to accept Israel's legitimacy: it right to be - not only the fact that it is - to exist as the nation-state of the Jewish people, and to accept that if and when a peace treaty is reached it will be considered the "end of the conflict". So far both Abbas and his Palestine Liberation Organization (PLO) as well as the organization that set up the PLO, the Arab League, and the one that has sent it on its mission to "liberate Palestine" (in 1964, mind you!!!) have refused to accept these two requirements. Don't you wonder, why...??
5. Abass doesnt want peace or his own state!
Jay3 ,   Israel   (07.30.10)
Its obvious that if Abass got his own fairy tale Palestinian state, the struggle would be over. He would have no excuse to destroy Israel and push the Jews into the sea. WHat i find the most amusing is that we have been building settlements in WB since 67, but its only the last couple of years that he is using it as a pathetic excuse for not carrying out peace talks. He seems to be running out of excuses.....yet the media still laps his every word up! They even try to make excuses for him by saying what he says is different to what he means...hahahahahaha Abass is nothing but an Egyptian born terrorist that orchestrated the Munich massacre.....he should be in Jail....not running the PA! The whole idea of a Arab Palestinian people is a blatant lie and only serves one purpose....Israels destruction! Enough of playing their charades Bibi....get some batzim and tell the truth!
6. #3
Omri ,   Israel   (07.30.10)
The exact 1967 boarders cant happen. You made the war you lost so you cant cry for lost lands. In history there where many wars and in most of them it ended with the winner side gaining land. This is nothing new and goes back to ancient history. In fact this isnta bad thing because it makes countries think twice before going to war for they may lose some land if they lose. What makes the arabs so special that you need the land you lost? Nothing, but you still want it. And Israel "Imposed on you"? Check some facts on the 1948 war, what happend was the UN give a plane to split t the land to arabs and jews, the jews agreed to share the land but the arabs didnt. The next day of that decision the arabs attacked because u wanted all of it. In fact after the 1948 war its only the arab countries to blame that they didnt give you a country when the west bank, gaza,galili was in arab hands.
7. #3 Palestinian.
Terry ,   Eilat - Israel   (07.30.10)
I'm probably the wrong person to ask about ''peace'' - You'll get a more sympathetic reply from some airhead leftist. Personally, I'm not into peace - I don't believe in making any concessions, I think the whole ''land for peace'' idea is crap, I think all evidence supports my opinion that by & large, Arabs do not want any peace, only the elimination of our state, I don't think we need peace with you, & I have absolutely no reason to trust any Arab initiative. In any case, I only care about our national interests regardless of the consequences to Palestinians. I take this position because this is the way YOUR people have defined the conflict. If there was any evidence that Arabs really wanted peace & coexistence, I wouldn't feel this way. Sadly, there is NO evidence, all evidence is to the contrary. Basically, logic tells me that no matter what we do, ideologically, by religion & politics, Arabs cannot reconcile to our presence here as a sovereign state, thus, it makes absolutely no difference what we do to you, you'll hate us anyway. Truth be told, I see this as a zero-sum game which is exactly how your people have forced us to define the conflict, so all I care about is winning, thwarting your plans, beating you.
8. #7, Terry! So realistic, so true, so not politically correct
tanya ,   tel aviv israel   (07.30.10)
9. Terry,you are spot on !
Trumpeldpr ,   eurabia   (07.30.10)
I did enjoy your reply to that false appeaser You could be a good PM ! Shabbat Shalom from brussels,the eurabian capital
10. to # 6 & 7 it is getting funnier
Palestinian   (07.30.10)
Most Palestinians tired of fighting and would want to live in peace with Israelis from Russia or even from Ethiopia or wherever. (Most Palestinians would accept the 2 states or one state solution) Both of you saying that we lost the war and winner dictates the rule of the game. If this is the case, the game just begun, and Palestinians have the right to fight for their homes/ land and win the war. So is it peace or war?
11. All Arab league members should talk
Roland Seener ,   London England   (07.30.10)
12. #10 You missunderstood me
Omri ,   Israel   (07.30.10)
I do believe this conflict must end with both sides happy and a 2 state salution but... You can't take the 6-day war back. The modern conflict isnt weither or not there will be a 2 state salution for both sides have agreed on that. The today's conflict is how big the palastinian state will be. I did not say the winners do control everything all i said was winners get a prize and in this case more land. Sense the 6-day war DID happen and Israel won then israel got more land, if arabs would have won then arabs would have goten the more land (in fact all the land). You can't take the 6-day war back nor can you take back its results that changed the map of 1967. And you say its palastinian rights to make a war and gain more land? No i wouldnt say that for making a war lonely for getting more land is defined as an evil act and the kind of act hitler or musalini would have done. Wars still happen, the 6-day war was mostly for a combination of the Cold War and the Arab league's agreement to destroy the jewish state (in other words gain more land). I dont see in those reasons the will of israel to gain more land, especial when the odds where SO much against israel in the war.
13. American Chaperon...Direct proximity talks
Steve Benassi ,   Silver Bay, MN USA   (07.30.10)
The US will referee the direct talks preventing Israel from bullying, isolating, and blaming the Palestinians, again. Talks must focus on voting rights and statehood in Palestine Israel, 2 states, 1 country.
14. #10 , border already agreed
Seppo ,   Finland   (07.30.10)
according to resolution 242 with Jordan and it is the river Jordan. I am just wondering why Jordan left its citizens on the WB. Maybe because these WB citizens tried to make a coup in Jordan. Arab plan of 2002 is outdated, because negotiations with Jordan were finnished almost 10 years earlier. The only question which remains open is what do with these arabs which Jordan left behind
15. LOOK WHAT ABBAS GOT BY SAYINIG *NO!
.......DACON9   (07.30.10)
LOOK WHAT ABBAS GOT BY SAYINIG *NO! IMAGINE IF SHARON, OLMERT AND NETANYAHU SAID.... NO..!!! WE WOULD HAVE A JEWISH STATE SELF SUFFIECIENT SERVING THE ONE GD OF ISRAEL PAVING THE WAY FOR MASHIACH NO MISSIONARIES NO MOSQUES NO CHURCHES THE JEWS WOULD RECOGNIZE ONE GD OF ISRAEL AND ALL THINGS AND THE WORLD WILL RECOGNIZE ONCE AGAIN THE MIGHT OF GDs CHOSEN SPECIAL PEOPLE ALL ISRAEL HAS TO DO IS RECOGNIZE ''ONE GD'' LIKE AT MT SINAI AFTER HASHEM TOLD US TO FOLLOW MOSES 'HIS' PROPHET AND MOSES SPOKE THESE ARE THE LAWS I GIVE TO YOU SAID THE 'ONE'. FOLLOW THEM AND I WILL BLESS YOU WITH WONDERS. (side note: when mashiach arrives, mohamed and jesees and all others will NOT BE PERMITTED. and those that fail to leave them will perish. Read it learn it and know it)
16. These talks will not take place
Gee ,   Zikron Yaakov   (07.30.10)
Why one might ask - simple the Arabs have no desire for peace. Not now, not so long as they think that they will continue to get something for nothing. When the freeze ends Abbas will have another hissy fit and claim that because we Jews dare build homes that he will not talk with us, just like before. Time to deport the illegal occupation force from our lands.
17. Palestinian
JUDAH THE LION   (07.30.10)
Again you are twisting things ,making white into black and black into white. The land of Israel and the west bank including Jerusalem,Hebron,Shechem, and all the territories belong to us the BNEI ISRAIL.Muslims dont have .0000000000% claim to our holy land. Every Jew from any part of the world is entitled to come to live in Israel. Muslim have no claim whatsoever to the land of Israel.Your land is Arabia the land of Arabs and Muslims/ ARABIA MEANS ARAB. For Palestinians homes they left in Israel they can make claim to the Arabs countries where the Jews fled or where forced to leave the country. Jews lost more than the Arabs.
18. PM ABBAS
TAHRIR QUDS ALYAHUDI   (07.30.10)
says no Israeli will be allowed to live among the Palestinians,but the Arabs can live inside ISRAEL. Abbas is COBRA SNAKE and TWISTER
19. Whatever ...
Sarah B ,   U.S.A. / Israel   (07.30.10)
Abbas wants to make it appear as if it were all his brilliant idea. Okay. Time's a'wastin', but okay. Of course, in a month's time, Israel may no longer be interested in direct negotiations -- or negotiations of any sort -- but no one will ever lose money betting on Palestinian stupidity. They have learned absolutely nothing in over sixty years; as they seem intent on proving over and over and over again.
20. #2 Terry. Excellent summary of the phony "peace process".
Chaim ,   Israel   (07.30.10)
#2 Terry. Your post is an excellent summary of the phony "peace process". Every adult in Israel, who hasn't had a lobotomy, knows it's a dangerous fraud. Why do we keep pretending it's real?
21. CLARIFICATION #1:LIBERAL MEDIA WANTS TO SOFTEN ARAB ATTACKS
........DACON9   (07.30.10)
22. #3 Arab
Hal ,   Usa   (07.30.10)
Clown Prince of Fakestine, you had '67 borders in '67. You had Arab plan of 1948. Greedy jerks that you are wanted even more. BTW you and the rest of the fakestinians were imposed on Israel [mandated by a UN vote] by that world renown dirtbag Yassir Arafat. [ an Egyptian who created Palestinian identity to thwart Israel politically] So now after all your gossimer fantasies of getting rid of Israel for the last 62 years have been as effective as Arab unity, you want to start over? Just admit that you guys have no stomach for running a country. Evidence of your state skills is your illustrious Mahmud Abbas. This man can't find his ass with both hands! All of your bigshots are grabing aid money with both hands.[apparently both hands work when stealing aid money] For all the time of the Ottomans and right up to the 1920's you just sat there like stone and didn't utter a peep. Then instead of trying to be reasonable, you guys do what you guys do well. You started pogroms against the very people that provided your worthless asses with a way to earn a living. Read Mark Twain's account of his travels in the Holy Land in the 19th century and then tell us all again how long you imigrants have been here. Losers get lost!
23. abbas ready in september?
avi ,   haifa   (07.31.10)
why does it take so long for abbas to remove the map in his office that declares all of israel and the westbank as palestine. In the meantime he's handing out presents. he will give us the western wall but forgets that he is no position of giving us something he doesn' t even own. is a man with such illusions a partner?
24. #1 Eric
George V ,   Myrtle Beach, SC   (07.31.10)
Kind of like the Settlers "Price Tag" policy huh??? This is the kind of peace talks we can expect: every announcement will be met with an attack from a dissatisfied settler group trying to prevent an end to the hostilities and trying to prevent a Palestinian State. Bibi needs to get his own house in order before he can negotiate a real peace. Its funny...I changed 3 words.
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