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Obama, we’re not suckers
Avi Trengo
Published: 30.08.10, 18:14
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1. Israel
Rose Carter ,   Muskogee, USA   (08.30.10)
This article is truth something we dont get in the United States, since H.Obama came on the scene. Israel must protect herself no matter what .
2. If Mr. Barakah Hussein Obama wishes to make a
Jehudah Ben-Israel ,   Qatzrin, Israel   (08.30.10)
contribution, let him ensure that: 1) The Arabs accept Israel's right to be, to exist as the nation-state of the Jewish people; 2) Accept a peace treaty as the "end of the conflict"; and 3) Ensure that Israel withdraws its armed forces to "secure and recognized boundaries" as called for by UN Security Council Resolution 242, on the basis of which all talks have been conducted. It appears, however, that none of the three points interest Mr. B.H.Obama but his political survival, one that is very, very iffy. We, Jews, within and without our nation-state of Israel, must not pay the price of failed President and failed Presidency. It is our lives and the lives of our children and grand children that is on the line, not Obama's.
3. FEAR of being a freier
stone ,   jerusalem   (08.30.10)
may be the death of Israel.
4. Sadly, we are suckers.
Terry ,   Eilat - Israel   (08.30.10)
We've been suckers at least since Oslo. Some might say we've been suckers since 1948. Not all of us are suckers, of course. But the majority of our political elites, our media morons, & a large segment of our intelligentsia actually take pride in being suckers. Without getting into all the historical examples of our status as the world's biggest collection of suckers on Earth, let's just give two current examples. Why are we even participationg in this farce with Obama? Why have we done nothing about Iran? If they gave Nobel Prizes for suckers, Israel would surely win.
5. Well said !! Only unity will save us.
aviG   (08.30.10)
6. President Obama has turned America's most
Jeff ,   Seattle, WA   (08.30.10)
important ally into a small country that need to defend itself from the President of the United States of America. At the same time, the President has allied himself with countries like Turkey, Saudi Arabia and even potentially Iran. Americans are loosing America to the President they/we elected.
7. ...should be forced to read this.
Curtis ,   USA   (08.30.10)
Every person working in the U.S. State Department should be required to read this article. But they are probably too blind to the truth to ever come to a functional understanding of the issue.
8. America's President deserted Israel but not America and
Nancy Hill ,   Chicago, IL USA   (08.30.10)
the American people.
9. finally!!!
martine ,   ashdod   (08.30.10)
We got someone who understood that man's schemes and explained them to us. Thank you Mr Trengo, I'm happy to see that journalists like you still exists. You made clear what Obama wants to do and where does he want to lead Israel. I just hope that Netanyahou and his government will open their eyes before they fall into that gross trap.
10. My advice
Friedman ,   Princeton, NJ, USA   (08.30.10)
Do NOT sign anything with Obama, Nothing should be signed even if Abbas will kiss Bibi, even Bibi's hand.
11. obama and israel
turk   (08.30.10)
he is smart he is brave and he will do what he can againist your dirts one day even america will not be able to save u then u have to get a real with a real force and that will probably turkey
12. #4 Terry. Correct. Israel has no sane reason to talk to P.A.
Chaim ,   Israel   (08.30.10)
#4 Terry. You are right on target like usual. The "Palestinians" in particular, and our enemies in general, have been playing Israel for suckers for generations. What did Israel get for giving Egypt the incalculably valuable Sinai? A worthless piece of paper, as late Egyptian President Sadat personally admitted. Today Bibi is begging Abbas to participate in talks aimed at tearing Jerusalem from us. Aimed at tearing Judea and Samaria from us. Aimed at trimming our waist to 8 miles and rendering Israel indefensible and flooding Israel with hostile Arabs, for good measure. Israel has no sane reason to talk to the P.A. Yet the lunacy continues. Israel is full of wise, courageous men and women but hardly any of them make it to top leadership. Netanyahu may be a good orator but he is every bit as much of a weak appeaser as Shimon Peres or Ehud Barak.
13. Anyone think we're not suckers?
Terry ,   Eilat - Israel   (08.30.10)
Just take a look at the new headline. MK Zouabi says Netanyahu should be tried for piracy. You've all read about the antics of our Arab MK's - what the hell are these people doing in our Knesset, paid exhorbitant salaries out of our tax money? If we're not suckers, then we're just out & out crazy.
14. Where was this rhetoric...
Matt ,   Milwaukee, WI   (08.30.10)
...when Bush said this in 2006? Remember Annapolis? Bush said he wanted to end the conflict and reach an agreement within a year. I didn't you guys calling him arrogant and asking him to show modesty. Why now? or thats right...because of his skin color and name!
15. Obama
shlomo ,   USA   (08.30.10)
90 percent of those who hate Obama do so because of his race or the far right. The far right in the US and Israel has painted him a socialist (although they do not really know what that means), a communist, a Muslim, an enemy of Israel, etc although he is none of these. When you only listen to the side that reinforces your stereotypes, you become like them. We Jews know this all too well and it sad that we fall into the same trap time and time again.
16. Core Issues
NYC Jew ,   NYC, US   (08.30.10)
Let's not get carried away here. Obama is clearly no friend of Israel. We need to accept it and drag our time until he is no longer in the office. Letting Iran load fuel in to that reactor was a mistake for which Israel will have to pay for. The sooner Israel will realize that we'are alone out there the more chance it will have to survive.
17. Avi Trengo has gone whrere...
Persian CAT   (08.30.10)
no fear and war monger has gone before - all the way way back to Khaibar! What Avi Tregno has apparently missed while honing his scare tactics is that Arabs and Muslims in general have accepted de facto existence of Israel albeit grudgingly. No Muslim with a head over his/her shoulder seriously considers elimination of Israel, no matter how loudly they "talk" about it. Avi Torengo has set his sight, longing and encouraging a colossal amount of unnecessary bloodshed. I want him to know, I'm sure he does not care, that if that happens professional provocateur, and lousy propagandists like him will have a lot of blood on their filthy hands. Torengo says, "If the answer to those two questions is affirmative, we have something to talk about." Somehow this chickeh hawk warmonger has trouble chosing peace, that's why he says, "If the answer to those two questions is affirmative, we have something to talk about." The time to talk about things, delaying peace and the usual shenanigans by the Israeli government(s) is over. It's time for peace inspite of all the hurt that extremists, and war mongers will suffer to see peace coming to the ME once and for all. Obama is the last chance, and you know it.
18. We have Bin Ladin and you have...
Persian CAT   (08.30.10)
Avi Trengo, counters the rallying cry of a bunch of extremists with his extremist views such as, understand why there is no solution for it at this time"! No solution at the time?!!! There is no sunshine between Avi Torengo's battle cry and that of the Jehadis.
19. Mr Trengo's article is fine,
RayS ,   USA   (08.30.10)
Just as the majority of United States citizens have come to see that President Obama is not to be trusted , has an ego without limits,and has little regard for western civilization, Israels should take White House efforts with caution.It is a trap.
20. Obama can't even end conflicts in America
Fred ,   Brooklyn, NY USA   (08.30.10)
Come November he will be a lame duck president, the Democrats will lose both the house and the senate and he will be stalemated in every move he tries to make. He fooled America once so shame on him, if he fools America twice shame on America. I did not vote for him like the kool aid drinking liberal Jews. He will not ram anything down Israel's throat and what he has tried to ram down America's throat will be repealed. I predict that his puppet masters will find a way to remove him from office before the end of his term. He has committed treasonable offenses and will either be impeached or deposed!
21. Obama
Nili   (08.30.10)
Sadly, the American people can't see that they are being sold down the river too, by a weak president who hates the very freedoms that got him elected. He is aiming to aggrandize himself by pandering to those who would destroy all freedom in the name of sharia. If he manages to squash Israel the caliphate is right around the corner. I somehow doubt they will keep a moonbat like obummer around for long.
22. In this well written and logical article, Mr.
Robert Haymond ,   Israel/Canada   (08.30.10)
Trengo gets to the core of the problem from our (Israel's) perspective: 1) Recognition of Israel as a sovereign Jewish state; 2) Right to defend itself, if necessary, on terrirory belonging to the perpetrators of violence against the state of Israel. It should be noted that not only the Hamas Charter but the Fatah one as well encourages the destruction of the "Zionist state" as one of its significant mandates. If your neighbour openly and brazenly seeks to snuff out your existence, there is little or no possibility of reaching a workable and peaceful understanding. That's common sense!
23. on your own
Paul ,   Atlanta, GA USA   (08.30.10)
Do it on your own then Israel.....me saying that is about as constructive as writing this article slamming our president.
24. Avi, you are the reason why there is no peace
Someone ,   Cambridge, MA   (08.30.10)
To the writer of this biased, baseless, and radical article, Your points of views are misguided. You live in a state which was born from the blood of Palestinian back in 1948. Obama is a smart president who recognized that standing with Israel the whole time will cost the U.S lots of lives and money. Israel should be more left-winged and less extremist. Avi, your views with regards to Islam are radical and contribute zilch to the argument you are debating. Please have some respect.
25. THEY CALLED ME A SUCKER
LINDA LOVELACE ,   SAFED ISRAEL   (08.30.10)
But Israel is more of a sucker.
26.  any violation of the final-status agreement
Leon ,   US   (08.30.10)
So what does this statement mean. Does it mean that Israel can attack and kill any and all Arabs if the final status agreement calls for full normalizations and the well known bad behavior of Israeli tourists leads to them being denied reservations in some Arab resorts. Israel always looks to justify disproportionate and brutal responses. If Rabbi Yosef keeps calling for genocide of Palestinians would all Arab countries be justified in attacking Israel if final status called for full normalalization between countries......
27. Avi Trengi IS a socalist himself
To #15   (08.30.10)
You obviously did not read his articles on Israeli economics try this: http://www.ynet.co.il/articles/0,7340,L-3905516,00.html
28. Great article, BUT...
Rickey ,   NY, NY USA   (08.30.10)
don't you think G-d's name should be mentioned when you talk about "trust"?
29. We won't give our land
Salma ,   Palestine   (08.30.10)
Just yesterday your Rabbi demands the extermination of the Palestinian people, a majority of "Israelis" support him! Khaibar IS THE SAME !! What does it mean that the Palestinians to accept the Jewishness of "Israel"?! IT MEANS THAT the Palestinian narrative is BIG LIE ,GOD FORBID, reassure you Mr. Trengo that no Palestinian leader will dare to even say let alone to sign such a nonsense, Palestinian who would sign up for that will have utterly betrayed his people . wounder how will you defend yourself against Palestinian demography ?!!
30. Boooooriiiiiiing!!
Michael Steiner ,   Bahrain   (08.30.10)
Yet another anti-Obama diatribe from someone whose idea of a fair solution to the conflict would be to either expel millions of people from their homes or - less preferable - give them a series of Bantustans with strict movement control for centuries to come. Next!
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