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TA to educate against homophobia despite Shas' objection
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Published: 30.08.10, 18:50
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1. If a phobia is an irrational fear, try a rational excuse?
Josh   (08.30.10)
Gross. Phobia that they will disgust me again.
2. Just curious how long till G-d kicks us out
Josh   (08.30.10)
The converts who comes here out of love of G-d gets shunned and ridiculed. The US Jews of the conservative and reform streams are driven out of Israel by protexia and what is the focus of this nation. Teaching little kids about deviant sex rights and that there is something wrong with them if they don't accept it as ok? Leave the children alone and for crying out loud spend the money to help assimilation and to stop protexia exiling Jews seeking refuge because they are not natives with native oppression. Racism is rampant, how about teaching children not to be racist. All these edcutaional possibility and money goes for gays? G-d is going to kick us out for sure.
3. Liberty
Ricardo Macher ,   Karnei Shomron IL   (08.30.10)
What about the rights of parents who just DON'T want their children to think that it's OK to be gay? Don't they have any rights? What about parents that prefer to live a straight life however don't really care about what gay do between themselves? The majority is suffering the oppression of a small insignificant and unimportant group that asks to be treated as equals but claims the pride to be different. Tel Aviv is going down and down, no majority IDF service, thinking that being gay is something to be proud of, fighting against Israel, hating southerners. G what a different country TA is from the rest of the real Israel!!!
4. "homophobia" sounds like an illness, but it's not
Baruch ,   Boston, USA   (08.30.10)
it's a real concern that these people who, for whatever reason they are the way they are, are getting into schools and synagogues and polluting the minds of our youth. We are entitled to view men having "sex" with men or women with women, or people who pretend to be the opposite sex, or people who just don't care (bi) as something not to aspire to. They want to take this right away from us, and are succeeding right now beyond their expectations. The trend will reverse as normal people get fed up with the intrusion on their lives.
5. how about equal education?
Larry ,   Los Angeles   (08.30.10)
How about teaching the folks in Tel Aviv that the Torah looks at homosexuality as a very serious sin that is punished by the death penalty?? In this manner everyone has the opportunity to make an educated decision as to what they want to be.
6. to #2, Josh - not long
Jerusalem Student   (08.30.10)
Especially since last time we got kicked out was for blind hatered, if your type will continue their nonsense, it won't take long. And as for protexia etc, shove it. Instead of saying thank you for the love, welcoming and financial aid the Israeli society showers new immigrants you spit into the well you're drinking from. If you don't like it here, noone's holding you back.
7. #2
James ,   Australia   (08.31.10)
God didn't bring you to Israel, secular Europeans did. Maybe you should leave.
8. agree with #5
INCognito ,   Chicago   (08.31.10)
teaching kids it's a sin will help us throw off the religious plague known as Orthodox Judaism. So, I'm all for it. Present the kids with the science (of which - medicine, psychiatry, etc - say homosexuality is fine) and with the irrational religious teachings, and let them see religion for what it really is - a chain to hold back humanity.
9. how old r the kids? cause other wise perverts might
ghostq   (08.31.10)
exploit the program, you didn't mention how old, don't get me wrong gays r no perverts, but many pedophiles will find it as educationl hole and will try to use that as excuss. sure you need to explain a child how babies come from but sex education usualy start from teenagerhood, not young children when emotionaly they couldn't understand about intimacy. without connection to religion I think it would be great for teens but not for children.
10. #7 Who would want to sleep in the bed you made?
Josh   (08.31.10)
When G-d kicks you out for the evil you show even with your racist mouth , being far away will be a blessing. Just who do you think you are, Moshe?
11. Gay Jews are still Jews!
Martin ,   Johannesburg, SA   (08.31.10)
Gay Jews are jews, despite what we may think of them. We need to treat them with respect and Chesed. How do you expect to bring them back if you treat them like rubbish. To hate a jew is a sin. It is the hatred and persecution of gays that has led them to become so well organised and strong. If this program promotes respect and tolerance among jews, then I am in favor!
12. Throwing out the baby with the bath water.
Ernest   (08.31.10)
Torah ethics would be what should be taught. After hearing stories and attitudes, there's been a wonder. Whether we're here and you're there, whether this is being professed or that is being professed, it's STILL Torah based. And that can even be oblivious to those claiming to be adherents to what's being professed. Not all, but say attitudes and/or ways can be disseminated in irrationally irresponsible ways, like Rabbi Yosef has been addressing. Are dignity and honor being sought for the children, the youth and the future or is the status quo going just going to be "kosher"? It's a crying shame that rather than standing up for Jewish principles and especially in the claiming of Judaism, some would rather bow and continue masking detriment happening in society. What's being proposed to be introduced into the young innocent minds of children isn't even near the covenant, it's the contrary. Maybe some haven't been able to do as well for themselves but surely the yearning to do better for the future must be there.
13. Homosexuality is Unnatural and Inhuman
Reuven Brauner ,   Raanana, Israel   (08.31.10)
It violates the fundamental requirement of Man to reproduce and continue the human race. Homosexuals are, in effect, destroying mankind. What could be more evil and despicable than that?
14. to #13 too much humans r also bad thing
ghostq   (08.31.10)
the natural earth reasources r limited, and people might starve from hunger, and gay people also can have babies. so your claim is wirth nothing. they deserve equal rights but not special favors, other wise it will become discrimination unjust and will cause many problems.
15. josh , why did'nt your god listen to Ovadia Yossef
Charles ,   Petach Tikva   (08.31.10)
And eliminates you , the NON Jew but anti Rabbainm cross adorer
16. 13 , reuven , your god has created them
Charles ,   Petach Tikva   (08.31.10)
as your beliefs say , so don't insult god's creations .
17. Ricardo , Tel Aviv is the real Israel
Charles ,   Petach Tikva   (08.31.10)
That works , contributes financially , culturally and so on , and LIVE a FREE tolerant life . Not as you and your hatefull alikes , who can only milk the State .
18. To 2 , Jerusalem Student
Charles ,   Petach Tikva   (08.31.10)
He is not loved because he's a FAKE convert .
19. Talkbackers should speak to real gay people
gay dad ,   Tel Aviv   (08.31.10)
it is amazing the misinformation you people have and the level of hatred. Speak to gay people and clear up the insanity that you believe.
20. Must teach tolerance, it is our history
Yakov ,   Tel Aviv   (08.31.10)
Nothing reaches the level of necessity, or seriousness, as does teaching tolerance. Without tolerance, we will never have peace, and our own internal struggles will magnify. We will become like Iran; intolerant, oppressive and totalitarian. Similar to issues we faced, as Jews in the Shoah. Intolerance and oppression. The experts have shown, over a decade ago, that homosexuality is not abnormal, not a disease, not a deviance, nor a choice. Further, Gays do not recruit, molest children (that is a heterosexual action) or in any way represent a threat to children. Further, based upon the blind hatred and bigotry demonstrated here, children need very much to learn tolerance, since they clearly won't get it at home!
21. Standford study: Children raised by gay couples
gay dad   (08.31.10)
http://news.stanford.edu/news/2010/august/gay-study-083010.html
22. Dear Chucky,
Reuven Brauner ,   Raanana, Israel   (08.31.10)
G-d created free will. But, Man can use his free will as he pleases. If he chooses to use his free will for evil, he will be punished. If he chooses to use his free will for good, he will be rewarded. If a person absolutely cannot control himself or is compelled and acts bad, he will not be punished. This is rarely the case. By your reasoning, Hitler did nothing wrong and won't be punished. He, too, was created by G-d. Your friend,
23. to #21 you look it the wrong way
ghostq   (08.31.10)
you see just in case you didn't noticed it's not school children achivement thay we r talking about it's actually social ones, none checked how children to same sex couples get in life social wise and how it effect their social psychological skills, there is not enough data, and that is not money or materialistic issue, never was. I think scientists should check it out. I bet you would like to know as well.
24. #6 Believe me they got a deal
Josh   (08.31.10)
Considering the loss of hundreds of thousands of shekels, they got ten times their investment back. By the way, natives who think they are protecting their own are the ones who don;t have squat. This is because the system they fight to protect, namely protexia, is all about bilking them, since they are really the only ones staying oppressed. Its not protexias "well", its G-d's and it is only ours if we do Torah. ..and if anyone is spitting in it, it is protexia that violates every rule of business law in Torah and righteous application of one law for all. I get my income from G-d not from cults or from oppressing native Hebrews.
25.  Why does Almog have to dads?
Orly ,   Jerusalem, Israel   (08.31.10)
"At least 100 children from same-sex families are currently enrolled in the city's schools, and questions such as 'Why does Almog have to dads?'..." Terrible spelling here. It should clearly read "Why does Almog have to dance?" [Or maybe: "Why does Almog have two dads?" - one can't tell from the context, the author would have to be consulted]
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