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Don’t betray us this year
Orit Struck
Published: 10.09.10, 13:22
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1. Dream of Greater Israel will be Death of Real Israel
rock ,   jerusalem   (09.10.10)
Yes, good vs. evil, us vs. them - everything is clear and there are enemies around us.... How 20th Century! I don't want to live in this ghetto mentality for the NEXT 60 yrs! Let's finally defeat Hitler, and move on to living beyond fear and persecution complexes. Salaam-shalom-Peace.
2. :: Letter to Orit Struck
Matty Groves ,   Fairport   (09.10.10)
Do you know no shame? Eleven times you refer to the Aimes children in your article; personally I find it rather disgusting that you would use these children to further your settler agenda. Yes it was tragic that their parents were murdered in cold blood yet you have no right to use their heartbreaking loss to ask for an extension for your illegal Avraham Avinu community and violent activities in the Palestinian town of Hebron. Instead of trying to pull on Sara Netanyahu’s heartstrings why don’t you invite her to visit you in Hebron and introduce her to your (at the last count) 11 children? I am sure that as a child psychologist Sara would be interested in talking to these children and determining their mental health. Let Sara ask these children the following questions: “How many Palestinian children do you play with?”, “When was the last time you left Hebron?”, “What have your parent told you about the Palestinians?”. I am quite sure that after such a meeting that Sara will conclude that the violent and racist environment in which you raise your children is wholly inappropriate and tantamount to child abuse/endangerment. Your request to Sara “help the Aimes children”, under the guise of furthering your own agenda, will only be accomplished once all the settler children are removed from the illegal settlements in the Palestinian WB and relocated to Israel proper. For the sake of all these settler children I hope this day comes sooner than later.
3. Well done, Matty Groves
Ben Alofs ,   Bangor   (09.10.10)
I add my signature to your letter to this settler lady, who is not beneath using small children for her political purposes.
4. There is only one way to end these war-crimes
Gee ,   Zikron Yaakov   (09.10.10)
Send the illegal squatters out of the land of Israel. Allowing thieves to gain from their crimes is not the right way.
5. 2 Matty Growes
Marek ,   Praha   (09.10.10)
There are people living in Israel, who still believe. You are not one of them , I suppose. By the way, your grandparents were probably"settlers" too. STrange thing to raise children surrounded by indians, OK?
6. "Put not your trust in Man' Demographics
MoreJewishBabies ,   Jerusalem Israel   (09.10.10)
The only thing that can prevent this is the continuing demographic growth of the religious public and the sane secular.Its working even the press can no longer ignore it: 40% of all Jewish children now in religious schools 60% of all pre schoolers and the highest Jewish birthrate in the country's history .Keep up "the good work" and we will have truely Jewish leaders within a very short time.
7. Greater Isreal
Frank ,   UK   (09.10.10)
I'm afraid Orit, you are totally misguided. The natural result is one state for two people. You offer no solution, but perhaps you are happy that Israel already demonised throughout the world, will eventually convert to an aparthied regime and Israel is already going down that slippery slope. If that is the case, Israel really has no future, so good bye.
8. to matty groves
taiwo johnson ,   madrid spain   (09.10.10)
it you that ve no shame, that support the so call peace talk why should israel give away their land for a piece of paper , the palestinians should go to jordan that where they belong period.
9. Sad
Israel Israeli ,   Tel Aviv   (09.10.10)
If Netanyahu betrays the Jews of Judea and Samaria, his crime is not against them, but against the existence of Israel and the Jews. If Netanyahu betrays the settlers and leads to the destruction of Israel, whatever money and awards he receives from Obama won't help. The Jews will remember his crime for eternity and the nations of the world will treat him like what he is worth, which can't be printed here.
10. Settlers Fanatics Will Be The End Of Israel
World Citizen ,   the world   (09.10.10)
The innocent Jews of the world will reap the whirlwind these fanatics have sown. Open your eyes. Quit blaming anti-semitism for all your problems. There is a direct link between what Israel is doing to the Palestinian people and why your country is considered a pariah among nations.
11. Let us NEVER AGAIN tolerate another betrayal.
Chaim ,   Israel   (09.10.10)
People like Bibi will always take the easiest path. If it is easier to sell out every principle Likud stands for, and everything Israel voted for than to stand up to Obama. Bibi will sell out Likud and Israel, as he has done many times before. We must not merely urge and end to betrayal. We must NEVER AGAIN tolerate another betrayal. Israel is a centre right country and the vast majority of us support our right to annex and massively settle Judea and Samaria, our historic heartland. When we demonstrate, by our words and actions, we won't tolerate another betrayal, we'll never suffer another betrayal.
12. #1 There is no rational case to cede Judea and Samaria.
Chaim ,   Israel   (09.10.10)
#1 Rock. There is no rational case for Israel to cede our historic heartland of Judea and Samaria. Talk of "Greater Israel" is ludicrous. Israel is one of the smallest nations on earth. Jews are a growing majority in Israel, including Judea and Samaria. This has been proven by many incontrovertible American and Israeli studies. This land is ours now and forever. Annex Judea and Samaria. Pay Arabs to leave, as most want to.
13. ORIT STRUCK CAN BE A VERY GOOD MINISTER!!!
olim hadashim ,   tel aviv/israel   (09.10.10)
14. Some people thrive on war
emc   (09.10.10)
and peace is their death.
15. you think, bibi needs a child psychologist ?
eporue ,   euroep   (09.11.10)
16. Jews are 75% of Israel, including settlers
Bloodyscot ,   Dallas, Texas   (09.10.10)
but in the under 20 age group, Jews are only 69%. The setters birthrate is almost equal to the Arabs but the rest of Israel is only about 60% of the Arabs. More Africans are coming to Israel than Jews and even a small change could shift the balance of power since lefties are atleast 20% of population, with non-Jewish and liberal voters combined they are currently just under 50%.
17. Deprogramming religious cult members
Steve Benassi ,   Silver Bay, MN USA   (09.11.10)
...requires an intervention by friends and family members. These settlers, these Jews, are so badly brainwashed they can't see the harm they are doing t native population, and by extension the world. Obama must intervene and stop these religious extremist.
18. oy vey what a meshigeh may the new year
lonnies galor   (09.11.10)
find peace to their misguded and hatful soul, amen.
19. Letter to Orit
Jan ,   Houston, USA   (09.11.10)
Orit, I feel such compassion and concern for all Israeli chidren, and your ariticle was excellent. Fellow Jews....how can you talk like that about your OWN PEOPLE? Don't you feel any shame, especially during these High Holy Days!!! Stop using the word "settler" it is a ridiculous word! Jews are Jews. End of Story. Am Y'Israel CHAI....in all of the land promised to the Jews. '
20. #7 to Frank from UK
Alexander ,   Westfield USA   (09.11.10)
I'm Afraid Frank, you are totally misguided. I don't mean to be condescending, but I feel the same way about your opinion as well as the Op-Ed piece. I sincerely think that peace with the Palestinians can't be achieved until they acknowledge our right to exist and our right to the land. We can never have a peaceful state with them if they are hell-bent on the destruction of ours. Every conflict in Israel is not a new conflict; it is a continuation of the same old problem that I mentioned above. These peace talks will go no where and there will be of course the most ridiculous excuse or heinous acts of violence to break them down. Already the Palestinian leadership is in an uproar over settlements the very settlements that have existed for quite some time now and in the past have never been such a major issue. I will go so far as to say that if someone were to add an extra room in their home in one of the settlements the entire peace talks will break down. The blame game will continue and of course we all know it’s Israel that everyone will point the finger at. Then again I do believe in miracles and we should continue efforts for peace as long as it doesn't threaten our safety, which it already has, so now I can only hope the bad situation doesn't get worse.
21. orit need to write to the terrorists, not sara netanyahu
mike ,   israel (formerly usa   (09.11.10)
demagoguery is the tool of those with nothing worthwhile to say.
22. Greater Israel?
K. Haim ,   San Francisco, USA/I   (09.11.10)
Including Judea and Samaria (which according to International law are part of the state of Israel), Israel's historic and present heartland is NOT Greater Israel. Going beyond the original mandate for the Jewish homeland , may be (though Qana just outside the northern border is certainly part of the land if Israel). Retaining Judea and Samaria is not only Israel's right but giving them away will be the death nail to all of Israel. No Judea and Samaria=no Security. Moreover giving away Judea and Samaria to the Arab Muslims usurpers, squatters (and 90% recently arrived) would be unethical.
23. Our enemies ARE the settlers
Mizrahi ,   London   (09.11.10)
24. Americans are preparing to intervene & stop Obama.
Chaim ,   Israel   (09.11.10)
#17 Steve. By all indications, it appears Americans are preparing to intervene and stop Obama's lunatic domestic and foreign policies, which are destroying the country. Obama is facing a huge defeat in the November mid term elections, which will, hopefully, greatly reduce his ability to do further harm to America and the Free World. As for Judea and Samaria; we Jews will continue to massively settle our land forever.
25. and this is the beginning of our year...
martine ,   ashdod   (09.11.10)
Is that what we became? People from the same religion fighting the one against the other for their ideas? So what? Secular people are better than religious people and you're complaining that those religious people will be the death of your faked peace with our ennemies? Where are you living? 5 people, including the foetus, died because of the blind violence of those terrorists and what is your conclusion, Jews are guilty! Because they have a land and want to live there, most of you condemn them as a threat. Do you really think that? Do you really think that the piece of paper abbas could sign would be respected by the palestinians? Are you that naïve? They wouldn't be your friends if you gave them whole Israel, cause they want you dead, even you who defend them! I'd like to tell you all something : I came to Israel since 8 years and I lived a lot of beautiful moments here, I don't want to give up on my country. There is no other country in the World that is about to give a part of its territories. No other, so why Israel? Do you think that this little country is too big for ONE people? Are ready to have your building invaded by the palestinians that, soon, will ask you to leave it since you don't fit on the picture? I think that lot of you are just dreaming. Cause they won't stop fighting if we give us a part of our country. Look at their videos and films, they want us dead once for all. And like the leader of hamas said, they like death since we like life! so, it's impossible for us to live in the area than them. Think about that! And for those who said that this article is a shame, let me tell you that forget that those bloody terrorist killed people just because they are Jews is a horrible shame. You forgot those children to easily over the palestinians'rights. And to end this, why are you not shocked to see their community refuse to help them? I mean : Saudia, Jordan, Egypte and the others. They're happy to see them fight us, we're doing the job for them and the terrorists do the same. Killing us is a blessing for them. Has ve Shalom For our New Year I wish that our PM will forget all his plans to give up on territories cause I think that we're going toward a internal war, Has ve shalom!
26. #25 You Rock!
nr ,   los angeles, usa   (09.12.10)
You said it all. Keep the land and tell our enemies to go to hell. If we stand up for ourselves, they will back down.
27. I'm sorry
daniel   (09.15.10)
we don't want a bi national state
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