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Lieberman: Zoabi can run for Hamas
Ronen Medzini
Published: 19.09.10, 11:25
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1. Lieberman is Entertaining
Mark of Lewiston ,   Lewiston USA   (09.19.10)
The same guy who said no peace in a generation is now insisting on transferring The Galilee to Palestine since a lot of Christians live there and Christians are ARAB. Or is this a Deir Yassin operation he's planning?
2. To # 1 Mark
Ricardo Macher ,   Karnei Shomron IL   (09.19.10)
Dear Mark, the difference between Lieberman and your president is that Lieberman is saying the truth! Why should we support our enemies? Regarding Christians, when did you last visited Um ElFahem? Israel is an independent country and has no obligations to explain things to you nor your president!
3. Israeli Arabs want to have the cake and eat it too.
Tahl ,   Ashdod   (09.19.10)
Israeli Arabs like MKs Zoabi, Tibi, Barakeh, etc want Israel to cede land to the Palestinians, but they themselves want to stay in Israel, so they could some day take over from within with their enormous birth rate, so that Israel would no longer be defined as the Jewish state. They want to continue to scream 'Apartheid' and 'second class citizens', and 'racism', but also to continue to enjoy the Israeli social, educational and medical services, as well as the National Security welfare and the personal freedoms they would never get under Palestinian sovreignty. This is why they so vehemently oppose the very practical territory-exchange plan.
4. #1 you make no sense
Israel Israeli ,   Tel Aviv   (09.19.10)
Lieberman doesn't believe that there can be an agreement, but if there are going to be negotiations, why not allow Arabs who feel they are "Palestinians" to live in "Palestine"? Please explain because I really don't understand. And why mention Deir Yassin? In Deir Yassin you had a battle between Israeli forces and the professional Iraqi army that came to help with the genocide of the Jews. The Iraqis lost many soldiers. What is the connection?
5. #1 - not "entertaining" but speaking the truth
michael redbourn ,   Arad - Israel   (09.19.10)
What you seem to enjoy reading and believing is the fantasy and charade that is presently being played out. No peace talks are taking place. Lieberman is is not "now" insisting on anything. His political platform has always been to redraw Israel's borders in a way that would leave Arabs in Umm al-Faḥm on the Palestinian side. People would not be moved, just the border meaning that Arabs who are hostile to Israel would end up on the other side of the border. In response to a proposed march by Israelis, the residents of Umm al-Faḥm and its mayor said they would not let Israelis march through THEIR town. That should make Lieberman's proposal clear to you and you should have no trouble agreeing with it. Since the US economy is going down the toilet and bankruptcy is expected in 2020 and millions are losing their homes in the States, and there's rampant unemployment, it's not really clear why you're wasting your time Israeli talkbacks instead of posting to the US media and trying to get rid of Obama.
6. Hey Liberman,
Salma ,   Palestine   (09.19.10)
No One Will Hear You Scream! Liberman, YOU SAID IT Arab CITIZENS of "Israel"...CITIZENS so take care of them ...OK ! Otherwise, resign & go back to Russia for the good of the nation :)
7. #6 Salma
Madeleine ,   Israel   (09.19.10)
Arab citizens of Israel are those who did not flee in 1948 but stayed and took their chances. They certainly have a far better life than your lot ever will. And you have absolutely no idea what "the good of the nation" means. You lot will never have a viable nation unless you stop preaching jihad, stop teaching little kids to kill and glorify death, when your mothers really do love you rather than wanting to send you on suicide missions. You are all so caught up in your own hatred that you can't even begin to appreciate what even a "cold" peace (as per Jordan and Egypt format) can do for you all. Compare Gaza City to Jenin and Ramallh, which have made quite a turn-around, if reports ar to be believed. Of course, if you achieve peace, you will have to take responsibility for your own nation. You won't be able to blame your failures on us any more. poro whining fools.
8. 2, 4, 5 So Many Critics
Mark of Lewiston ,   Lewiston USA   (09.19.10)
Just a note about Deir Yassin, the place was entirely depopulated by force of arms. Otherwise, Michael Redbourn made the most cogent explanation. In 48 some areas were conquered and the residents made Israelis by force of arms. They then have demanded of them that they be loyal to a State that treats them not as equals, except occasionally on paper. Why were they forcibly incorporated to begin with? As to Obama, consider the alternatives. I did. I had a choice between somebody who wanted US troops in Iraq for 100 years and had less of a clue about economics than Obama. Then he chose an airhead as a running mate. And now they want to add $ Trillions to the US deficit making sure Bill Gates gets a tax break he hasn't asked for. And making tax breaks for the stock barons of Wall Street who drove our economy into the ditch have tax free bonuses. Why would I want to get rid of Obama. Who is the alternative? And Obama hasn't started a single new war since taking office. But his opponents want a new Korean land war and maybe an invasion of Iran. And some want to attack a third of the planet, all the Muslims in the world. And they plan to pay for it by borrowing from China. And some of them also want to expel all the Muslims from the USA, the majority of whom are Black, not Arab. They also argue that Obama is channeling his dead father and that British colonialism was right for somebody, probably America. Who is my alternative, Mike?
9. Zoabi can't stand for elections with Hamas! She's a woman...
Albert ,   Paris, France   (09.19.10)
..., I think, but this is the only reason why she can't represent Hamas!
10. Abbas represents apartheid and ethnic cleansing
Eric ,   Tel Aviv & New York   (09.19.10)
It was not Israel that declared that all Arabs must leave as part of a peace deal with the Palestinians. It was the Palestinians who demand that all Jews be forced out of the new Palestine. Who is proposing ethnic cleansing?
11. A price MUST be paid for treason.....
Adina Kutnicki ,   Israel   (09.19.10)
This issue has NEVER been about free speech, it has ALWAYS been about collusion with the enemy! Those who side with our enemies, whether during 'quiet' time or war time, MUST be stripped of their citizenship. Using democratic norms to hide behind, our enemies have mastered this sleigh of hand to high art. Our very lives are on the line and we MUST beat them back. Therefore, the hijacking of these norms MUST be exposed, and ACTION must be taken-PC elitist crap aside.
12. Salma
(09.19.10)
Abbas said PA will not allow one JEWISH person to live in Palestinians territory. OK no problem, but WHY ISRAEL & THE JEWS should allow the Israeli arabs to live in Jewish state plus remember the muslims world have kicked out all the Jews.Do you really think it is fair deal? I DONT. JEWISH SYMPTHY NORWAY
13. Time for a reaal esate exchange
Arie ,   BaGolan   (09.19.10)
The Arab Triangle of the Galilee, where the population loves flying Hamas flags, should be exchanged for the settlement blocs dunam for dunam. That way, the settlers get to stay and the Arabs get their Palestinian leadership. Of course, now I'll be blasted by the TA lefties for "racism" given that the Arabs joining a Pali state will no longer have the freedoms they have here like freedom of speech, freedom of religion, freedom to dissent, decent schools, and chances to grow. Be careful what you wish for....you may just get Mashaal as you wish.
14. Zoabi should get her bhurqa ready
Christopher ,   Boston, MASS   (09.19.10)
15. #6 read #8
(09.19.10)
The people of Um El Fahem were made Israeli by the force of arms. Lieberman says they can join your lot and live in happiness with you free of our racism. You should be the first to support him.
16. Israeli Arabs and Hamas prefer one state solution, not 2
Bloodyscot ,   Dallas, Texas   (09.19.10)
One state solution is best for Israeli Arabs,Palestinians and settlers but not for the leaders of Israel or a "Jewish State", since losing control is not an option.
17. :: Albert - #9
Matty Groves ,   Fairport   (09.19.10)
Your ignorance is astounding. Back in 2006 after Hamas got elected there were at least six women (belonging to the Hamas party) in parliament. Why don't you Google "Fathiya Barghouti Rheime", you will quickly see that she was one of the Hamas mayors elected in Gaza.
18. can we send
david ,   Haifa, Israel   (09.19.10)
can we send all these terrorists and arabs living among us to live in gaza? then cut gaza off completely. no fuss no fowl.
19. #1 Mark
David ,   Haifa, Israel   (09.19.10)
stick with you beloved anti israel anti semitic german owned haaretz... here you mess with israelis who love israel... go away and mind your own business you anti semite!
20. Drive her and her extended family to the Gaza border ..
Lee ,   Manchester UK   (09.19.10)
and simply close the gate behind them. Israel you really do need to install strong consequences for these monsters. I'm sure hamas will have a good role for zoabi - she'll have a 'great life' there in Gaza.
21. Liberman has been a breath of fresh air in Israeli politics
zionist forever   (09.19.10)
He might have been to outspoken but he has proposed and been responsible for passing many bills that politicians from the mainstream parties would have liked to propose for decades ago but its been non politically correct so nobody has had the courage to speak up. As a result Israeli politics has been stale for decades. Thanks to a proposals and pressure from Liberman bills were introduced to do things like ban government funding nakba events by Israeli arabs. Israeli governments have traditionally been terrified to speak out against the arab sector or the arab politicians out of fear of being considered racist etc Liberman isn't interested in political correctness which is a breath of fresh air. As for Eli Yishai whilst the F35 is waste of money that will not provide the IAF will great capabilities it currently does not posses and the plane is certainly not the best in the world but the funding allocation for the military is alot more important than the funding that goes to the settlement program. Weapons like the F35 will be stop Israels enemies destroying it the settlements won't. Whilst we do need some tactical building it should not be seen as the most important issue the military budget must take priority.
22. Lieberman is right; Zoabi is projecting her racism against a
Jae ,   Lynn US   (09.19.10)
the Jewish homeland; she wants another (24th) arab country. Call this duplicitous traitor for hamas out! Remind her that the arab occupation is not forever, the Jewish homeland existed 2000 years before the arabs invaded and colonized africa Israel and the levant. Tell her until she dreams it at night. Repetition is the only key to victory. If its a truthful repetition it is doubly insured!
23. Wasn't Kosbi Zinri's lover?
M Kosbi? ,   Il   (09.19.10)
The Midianite seducer princess
24. :: David - #19
Matty Groves ,   Fairport   (09.19.10)
Firstly Mark of Lewiston is always welcome on Ynet as he offers educated and sensible comments and observations which are always a breath of fresh air compared to the postings of Ynuts. Secondly why are trying to stifle free speech? Are you suggesting that Israeli media become dictatorial in nature? Thirdly you should really be thankful that Mark of Lewiston (and other such level-headed posters) are willing to participate on these threads as their posts only improve and enhance the daily discussions.
25. 2 Richardo
Sam   (09.19.10)
As long as Israel is sitting on our tax dollar to the extent of over 3 billion a year, some estimates are much higher, you listen to us and our president. you are not indipendent country you are living on our pocket.
26. #7 Arab citizens of 'Israel " are in their homeland!
Salma ,   Palestine   (09.19.10)
end the occupation to end the Jihad,prefer to call it resistance, peace requires real courage from both sides not only from us, Our mothers brought us to love the life wenever we can ,in Gaza land, sea, sky, all under your siege! You won't be able to lie all the time!
27. #12 I can't imagine Palestine without Jews!
Salma ,   Palestine   (09.19.10)
Abbas said PA will not allow one SETTLER to stay in Palestine, It's different ,isn't it?
28. Thank G'd for Avigdor Liebermann !
Jaacov Baumann   (09.19.10)
May many in Israel be inspired by him and may G'd bless and protect him and the whole nation of Israel !
29. #15 Easier, to get rid of racism ;)
Salma ,   Palestine   (09.19.10)
by Force or willingly they are citizens, live with this fact, "Israel" is not a purely Jewish state.
30. 27
JUDAH THE LION   (09.19.10)
What is the difference between Settler or Jew.
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