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Hague to Israel: UK will amend war crimes law
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Published: 04.11.10, 20:36
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31. #11 your history lesson for the day
Alexander ,   NJ, USA   (11.05.10)
Palestine is not a country it is the name of a territory. It was the name given to the ancient kingdoms of Judea (modern day Israel) by the Romans after they invaded it illegaly. They named it after the arch nemesis of the Jews, the Philistines, to which you Arabs have no connection with because they came from the area around Greece. This was the name the land retained for the 2000 year exile of the Jews. The Muslim's invaded the occupied land of the Jewish people. They should have liberated it and upheld the Quran which acknowledges that the territory is the Jewish homeland, but instead it would exchange hands between numerous invaders until eventually it became Israel once again. The state of Israel is not a new nation it is the rebirth of an ancient nation ie the Jewish Nation :). Fight the power Palestinian and fight for your right to be a real nation of peace and not of myth and war.
32. #18 & #14
Alexander ,   NJ, USA   (11.05.10)
Don't bother with Mr. Split he's easily persuaded by exaggerated expressions like "massacre" as some headlines read about the recent Gaza Flotilla. The language the media uses to over inflate the situation is appalling. The media calls the death of 9 terrorist a massacre and people like Mr. Split accept any and all accusations against Israel because they are persuaded by the propaganda that Jihadist stage.
33. #18 - IDF headquarters over there, hiding behind Israeli civ
split ,   US   (11.05.10)
Talking about civilians - Would you please tell us what percentage of your "civilians" keep their uniforms and weapons at home ? Do you count your reservists as civilians ? Following your logic they're hiding behind their kids and seniors. Can't even mention behind their women because they're active soldiers and reservists too. Save your breath dude, just keep your hands out of my pocket and I'll forget that you exist.
34. It will be fun to watch how all more or less important
leo ,   usa   (11.05.10)
world leaders would become war criminals in half of the countries around the world. BTW, are Brits still in Afghanistan?
35. thanks tahl
pini ,   usrael   (11.05.10)
36. uk politician was nearly by killed radical this week
(11.05.10)
37. #11
Jacob ,   UK   (11.05.10)
You are aware that Balfour was referring to the BRITISH MANDATE of Palestine, a mandate, not a nation. Get your facts right.
38. #17 how can you call the uk gov anti semite when they
Claudia Winkleman ,   London   (11.05.10)
Have many many jews and proud vocal zionists working in it? Such as the HEAD of the parliament, John berko, Ed milliband, the leader of the opposition party. With much more, the jewish chronicle gave the full low down on who is jewish in uk government today. Hague himself has been a Zionist since he was 15. But from the average loon Talkbackers they don't get this as it's news older than 5 days. I think that casual use of term lanti semite is so insulting to those who actually do suffer from such hate.
39. Israeli response to Hague is........????
Alexander ,   Tel Aviv, Israel   (11.05.10)
Israeli passivity and turning the other cheek is self destructive. The very moment Hague uttered his words that Israeli politicians may be arrested on British soil - for alleged war crimes - meaning if the Brits subjectively "feel" or "think" in a prejudiced way without any basis for their statements -that Israel is "guilty" of "war crimes", Israel shoild respond with: 1) Kicking Mr Hague out of the office and tell him that he is not welcome to the State of Israel anymore and that he will be arrested in Israel the next time he tries to get here for incitement against Israel, interference with our domestic affairs, incitiement against our citizens and support for our Arab arch enemy. That is why he should be arrested. Second, Israel should insist that when and if UK turns this law into reality, every British politician visiting Israel will be arrested.
40. @2 - Hi pot, I'm kettle
Joel ,   Brisbane, Australia   (11.05.10)
- Israel's not going to try British officials because British atrocities are commited in Arab countries. This unites Israel and the UK rather than divide them. - Why do the Falklands belong to the local inhabitants who have only been there are few centuries, yet Israel doesn't belong to the Palestinians who have been here before even Hebrews arrived in Israel? Typical hypocrisy. - Britain does welcome Arab and refugees, unlike Israel which doesn't even allow them back into the houses of their grandparents because some family rom Brooklyn's living there now without consent- all encouraged by Israeli law. - Israel needs the EU and US more than the EU or US need Israel. Israel is the equivalent of a welfare sponge.
41. #40
A Shvitzer ,   Israel   (11.05.10)
Jews have been living in the land of Israel for thousands of years not all have come from Europe or other parts of the world.The Palestinians are the ones who recently arrived, they were Arab migrants who came from the Arabian peninsular.Jews have always lived in Israel.You need to learn your history.
42. #38
Shayna Gezunt ,   UK   (11.05.10)
David Milliband and John Bercow are assimilated Jews .David Milliband to be honest says he is an atheist and is not pro Israel.His mother is definitely anti-Israel.So us Jews don't really know who is anti-semitic or not .
43. #36 true, she was inspired by AMERICAN jihad site, she got l
Zeev   (11.05.10)
Life in jail this week. Bad girl heaven for an evil Muslim girl. Furthermore it didn't happen this week so it doesn't look like you can read or understand news stories yet comment like it is fact...
44. no.9
hebrew prophet ,   israels   (11.05.10)
Hey stupid Palestinian ,the only war crimes commited in Iraq are those of Saddam Hussein, Tarik Aziz,the Baath Party ,Moqtada al Sadr and opium fuelled Taliban Islamic thugs who plant Iranian manufactured IED,s all over the country ,get your facts right ?
45. To: No. 14
Sarah B ,   U.S.A. / Israel   (11.05.10)
Funnily enough, the law looks to intent, not efficacy. I've used this analogy before: say you take a loaded gun, point it at someone and deliberately pull the trigger. Let's say that the gun misfires, or jams, and your intended victim remains unscathed. Do you think that the law would say "okay; let's all go home; no harm, no foul." No. It doesn't work that way. Your intended victim gets to go home; you, on the other hand, are looking at about 30 years in the penitentiary for attempted murder. The fact that Hamas couldn't hit the broad side of a barn -- that's efficacy. The fact that they keep trying -- that's intent. As I explained, the law looks to intent. Hopefully, now that you understand, you will make an effort not to look as ridiculous as is your usual wont.
46. To: No. 40
Sarah B ,   U.S.A. / Israel   (11.05.10)
"Israel's not going to try British officials because British atrocities are commited in Arab countries. This unites Israel and the UK rather than divide them." Try telling that to the Indians, the Burmese, most of black Africa and some Caribbean Islands. By the way, there is no statute of limitations on war crimes, and ex post facto (post-fact) criminalization of events is allowed under the British war crimes law. I bet the Kenyans, the Malaysians and the Indians will be really pleased to learn that. "Why do the Falklands belong to the local inhabitants who have only been there are few centuries, yet Israel doesn't belong to the Palestinians who have been here before even Hebrews arrived in Israel? Typical hypocrisy." The "Palestinians" are a co-opted identity for people who came from Syria, Lebanon, Iraq and, for the most part, from the Hejaz in the Western Arabian desert. They are not descended from the Canaanites, as you seem to imply. And while no one disputes that there was a Kingdom of Israel and a Kingdom of Judea, populated by Hebrew tribes, no one has proven Arab provenance and roots in the region. They are squatters. There is also the fact that the Arabs have initiated (and subsequently lost) six major wars against Israel. To the victor belongs the spoils -- a long-standing British dictum. Typically stupid of you not to know that. "Britain does welcome Arab and refugees, unlike Israel which doesn't even allow them back into the houses of their grandparents because some family rom Brooklyn's living there now without consent- all encouraged by Israeli law." No, the homes that are being returned to the Jews are homes where Jews had been living for centuries and, in some cases, millennia, before Jordan made the West Bank "Judenrein" in 1948. Don't be too smug. When Britain passed a law which granted British citizenship and right of residence in Britain to all former British colonies -- and then was promptly inundated by all manner of colonials seeking to live in Britain -- Parliament rescinded the law six months later. As to a "repatriation" of Arab refugees who left voluntarily -- not going to happen. They weren't forced out; they left in order to make room for the "conquering Arab armies" that couldn't deliver on their promises. Not Israel's fault. "Israel needs the EU and US more than the EU or US need Israel. Israel is the equivalent of a welfare sponge." Ridiculous! "Welfare sponge" -- do you mean like Portugal, Greece, Spain, Hungary, Romania, Czech, Slovakia, Slovenia, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera? Unlike the members of the EU, Israel's economy is thriving. By the way -- care to tell me when Australia plans to cede back to the Aborigines the land that British criminal convicts stole from them, killing tens of millions in the process? I didn't think so. Talk about "pot" and "kettle" -- as an Aussie, you live in an incredibly vulnerable glass house. In your place, I wouldn't hurl about too many stones.
47. #38 Claudia
Alexander ,   NJ, USA   (11.05.10)
I agree with you 100%, I think that when Jews throw the term antisemitic out there just out of their own frustration it's immoral on their part. It takes away from what that term really means which is a person who has an irrational hatred or fear of Jews/Israel. Just because people don't agree with Israel and even go against it does not mean they are antisemitic. At the same time there is no doubt that antisemitic people are behind many of the problems and challenges that Jews and Israel face. The challenge I think is being able to distinguish from the crowd that just disagrees with us and the antisemitic people that want to kill Jews and destroy Israel or Zionism.
48. to #46
Alexander ,   NJ, USA   (11.05.10)
There seems to be no lack of supposedly intelligent people making asinine comments these days. Great rebuttal of #40 I couldn't have done a better job. You rock!
49. To: Alexander at No. 48
Sarah B ,   U.S.A. / israel   (11.05.10)
Thank you very much for your kind words!
50. #33 enlighten me again SPIT...
Tahl ,   Ashdod   (11.06.10)
As to how Israeli reservists who stay home and take no part in the fighting - are endangering Gaza? Exactly what makes them legitimate targets? Not to mention their wives, kids, parents and neighbors? According to your idiotic logic, you must agree that all of America (including your home town) is fair game as well for America's enemies as well. After all, your armed forces servicemen and reservists live all over the place. And FYI, nobody in Israel keeps their M-16 from the army at home. You living in a country full of trigger-happy crazies should not be throwing stones from your glass house.
51.  you must agree that all of America is fair game
split ,   USA   (11.06.10)
I'm afraid we are for sending you money and weapons, at least our politicians that voted for it not to mention AIPAC con-artists that made them vote for it,...
52. #20 - in favor of the words "flying pipes"??
split ,   US   (11.06.10)
Falling gutters killed and wounded more Israelis since 2001 than those so called "missiles" - Name calling, with shitty arguments, that's your (hasbara's) trademark ;),...
53. To: No. 52
Sarah B ,   U.S.A. / Israel   (11.06.10)
"Falling gutters?" Care to document that? It just doesn't rain that hard in Israel, idiot child. Can you try and do a little better? To answer your silly nonsense with some reality: Have you ANY idea how many people have suffered heart attacks and died because of those -- to use your remarkably inaccurate words -- "flying pipes?" Do you know how many children suffer from post-traumatic stress? No, I don't suppose you do. You are REALLY no match for the intelligent, well-informed individuals that populate this forum. I do strongly suggest that you go peddle your trash elsewhere -- with like-minded individuals, that you are sure to find on any Al Qaeda website. You are really no match for us, "Split." Go blather all about your "flying pipe" elsewhere. Somewhere which it might actually be appreciated. Sorry to inform you so brutally, but here -- you're just a bad joke. Ta ta, tateleh.
54. To: No. 51
Sarah B ,   U.S.A. / Israel   (11.06.10)
Last I checked, the only people that have threatened America physically happen to be Islamofascist organizations. Not Jews. Not Israelis. Just Arabs and Moslems. By the way -- you don't send us money. Our economy is far healthier than yours. We PURCHASE your weapons. AIPAC is a lobby. Lobbies are not illegal. If you're looking to cast aspersions at lobbies, you might want to start with the NRA -- responsible for the proliferation of handguns throughout the United States -- or the insurance lobby -- responsible for all those high premiums that you pay for insurance coverage -- or the pharmaceutical companies -- responsible for why you pay 1,000,000 times the cost of production of medications ..... but no. You're just another common, garden-variety Jew-hater and Israel-hater who tends to pull "facts" out of his nether regions, which you have difficulty finding with two hands and a flashlight. Go away. You are seriously out-classed and out-matched here. Do you like being ridiculed? Have you NO pride?
55. #53 - how many children suffer from post-traumatic stress?
split ,   us   (11.06.10)
Not as many as Palis children killed and wounded by Phosphorus and Cluster Bombs, Depleted Uranium etc. Over 400 don'f suffer anymore they dead, how many wounded and handicapped God only know - Feel sorry for your kids but that's how can they have a peace with "grown ups" like you around ,...
56. #55 always blue
Alexander ,   NJ, USA   (11.06.10)
You remind me of the song "Blue" it goes like this ... Yo listen up here's a story About a little guy that lives in a blue world And all day and all night and everything he sees Is just blue like him inside and outside Blue his house with a blue little window And a blue corvette And everything is blue for him and hisself And everybody around Cos he ain't got nobody to listen to We get it, you live in a blue world and no matter what the world will always be blue for you. Israel being right will always be blue and Israel being wrong is still blue. There is no getting through your blue. You don't care about Jews, Palestinians, or Israel you only care about your blue.
57. ... you only care about your blue,...
split ,   USA   (11.07.10)
Darn right , why should I ? Sending you money and weapons with political support make us your partner in crime , creates enemies , deprives us our freedoms , makes a mockery of our country , make us look and act just like you - Get lost , take your lobby with you , no one will miss you here.
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