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Rabbis pray for rain on hot air balloon
Ilana Curiel
Published: 26.11.10, 08:08
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31. Birdi 25 , 100 % right !
Charles ,   Petyach Tikva   (11.26.10)
English is not the mother tongue of Ora , in her languge she is very eloquent
32. RC, What exactly do you mean....
ER ,   Canada   (11.26.10)
...there are still righteous among them? Sounds a bit pompous with an undertone of self-righteousness, don’t you think?
33. #24 no way , Rivkah is hilarious
Ora is ,   just boring   (11.26.10)
34. # 31
Birdi ,   Israel   (11.26.10)
Thanks Charles.
35. The cosem shel Oz-Wizard of Oz, the fake behind the curtain
Josh   (11.26.10)
One guess where the hot air came from that filled the ballon. Did a bunch of indian do a rain dance with these violators of Torah. A prayer gets rain? IT IS NOT IN THE HOT AIR BALLOON THAT WE SHALL SAY GO AN TAKE IT FOR US, Insulting G-d and trying to sidestep Torahs explanations on how we assure rain. It is by being good Torah people not incantaions that we get rains and blessings. If they resort to Pharoh magician stunts, we are way way way off the path. We are not in Kansashalyim anymore. If we dont have the blessings but we go up in a balloon because we are cursed sinners with no rain, are we not just thumbing G-d in the face as we rebel. They want rain? Sart teaching Torah that came from G-d mouth not a self-depricating vain man-made torah. We won't need a circus to make G-d relent the curses, we need to love G-d and do HIS will. Clowns, balloons and snake oil?
36. Response to # 32 ER, Canada
RC ,   USA   (11.27.10)
There are good people and there are bad people everywhere, I believe there are good people in Israel and I ask God to bless them and protect them. I do not claim to be righteous or special in any way; I am just another sinner in this world that begs mercy from God and am thankful for everything He has allowed me to experience in this life. I especially ask God to protect the righteous people because they are the ones who usually suffer from the evil ones the most in this world.
37. Wow Hot Air Balloons on Hot Air Balloons!
Simon ,   NY,NY   (11.27.10)
38. The fake rainmakers. rabbis & Co.
jo   (11.27.10)
Just wondering if these two eminent rain experts, or is it their divine expertise, succeeded in getting up 1000 feet in their balloon using their own man made " hot air ', or the one supplied by the gaz co.?. Either way. the expected ' timely rain ' looked upon these clowns and refused to make an appearance. Another prayer bitting the dust. Nothing wasted as they were able to rub " elbows " with beatiful " chicksas ". PS : To RC from the USA # 28. Please let me have the phone # of those few righteous one left or their e.mail?
39. #26 there is always bin adam l'chavero
(11.27.10)
for example in the TANACH the story of Noach the reason the generation is destroyed is because they were foul and evil to one another; whereas the following generation the builders of the Tower of Babel were not destroyed because despite the fact that they were attempting to reach G-d and in fact were committing an act of paganism they were still acting with proper respect for one another by working together and so G-d merely confused their tongues but did not harm them any further. There is a very long Talmudic discussion on these two parshiot perhaps you should go read them and then we'll talk.
40. #27 think ur smart dontcha!
(11.27.10)
41. Just Jews being Jews, that's how we roll
Alexander ,   NJ, USA/Israel   (11.27.10)
nice to see that in this day and age when everything is physical and material we still have some spirituality left :)
42. What did King David then there was a drought in the land?
Rivkah   (11.27.10)
He went to the Prophet Nathan and asked him what was upsetting YHWH because YHWH controls the rain. Nathan told King David that YHWH had listened to the prayers of the Gibeonites who were calling for vengeance for King Saul's evil toward them. King David then went to the Gibeonites to see how the grievance could be resolved so that they would stop asking YHWH for revenge. They wanted the deaths of King Saul's male descendants. King David consented to slay them except for Jonathan's son Miphibosheth who was crippled and lived in David's household. For Jonathan's sake (he was a son of King Saul's who was slain in battle that David loved more than his love for women). David slew the sons of his wife Michael who was the daughter of King Saul who were born of Micahel's maid that Michael raised as her own sons, being childless herself. THEN THE DROUGHT STOPPED. What is causing a drought in Israel today? Praying for the drought to end without determining the offense to YHWH is useless. I suspect the offense to YHWH is baby killing (abortions on demand instead of for valid reasons such as the mother's life is in danger, rape, incest). Another offense to YHWH is flaunting sodomy. Another offense to YHWH is cheating the poor. Another offense to YHWH is women with wanton eyes and adulterous males and females and fornication which is repeated adultery without repentance. The PEOPLE of a nation have to cooperate and stop the sins that offend YHWH for the drought to end, but not all the people have to stop sinning. The people who are called by God's name must stop sinning. Those who believe in YHWH must stop sinning for the drought to end.
43. RC , 36
Charles ,   Petach Tikva   (11.27.10)
Sad that people still can believe in prayers . Sane people live in the 21st century , you and alikes still in the dark middle ages .
44. Maybe they can........
sheik rattle & roll ,   USA   (11.27.10)
enlist some help from North American Indians to come and do a rain dance as well.
45. check Forecast 1st!
J ,   ISR   (11.27.10)
according to experts, seems like there isn't going to be an rain till at least december 8...hence...no need to pray till then :).
46. #41 No that's how pagans roll
Josh   (11.27.10)
Not all Jews agree with kabbalah. We have a G-d and He makes rain or denies them based on HIS Torah and the Blessings of Choose life or Curses of Choose death. Does choose death kneel and submit or float by in arrogant balloons making illegal incantaions (Magi incantations) saying I will walk as I see fit (or as Rabbis delusionally see fit) and get the rain for myself? Devarim 4:2 no adding. That is how we roll.
47. 30 Charles Thanks
ORA ,   Jerusalem   (11.27.10)
48. #33 to JUST BORING
ORA ,   Jerusalem   (11.27.10)
Please,refrain from putting my name ORA next to your name JUST BORING
49. Ora , 47 . I don't like stupid "people"
Charles ,   Petach Tikva   (11.27.10)
Who can't see such a difference , and talk about people they don't know .
50. The rain makers
J.K. ,   Brooklyn USA   (11.27.10)
A lot of hot air,it's not going to work,because they did't take a chicken to be slaughtered, to appeace the woodoo Gods,beside its been written in Psalm:Memamakim Karaticha,I called out to you from the depths,Who is financing this shamful thing ? and what is the cost ?, As Ephraim Kishon wrote,Israel is the most advanced nation on earth,and the most primitive,a struggle between the forces of good and evil,and what is the beauty queen doing there ? trying to use her charm in the service of the nation,it works on earth,maybe it will work on the upper floors too,lets prepare the umbrellas,just hope this time God will not repeat last mistake,causing floods in Bangaladesh.
51. # 8 Ora
J.K. ,   Brooklyn USA   (11.27.10)
Ora ! you are right ,science has its limits,but fantasy and superstition have no limits.
52. # 21 Call lauder
J.K. ,   Brooklyn USA   (11.27.10)
Ariel ! And Eliyahu said, Call lauder, maybe he is on the road,maybe he is asleep,isnt this applicable also to the God of Eliyahu,considering what happened to the Jewish people in the last 2000 years,especially 70 years ago.
53. what a lot of hot air
observer   (11.27.10)
These so-called rabbis are making fools of themselves. Prayers for rain have are mentioned in the Talmud and there is a set traditional formula that these attention-seekers have not even tried. The inclusion of the beauty queen on the trip (no I'm not jealous - well not very jealous) just demonstrates where these lowlifes have landed.
54. # 53 Traditional formula
J.K. ,   Brooklyn USA   (11.27.10)
Observer ! If the formula to create rain, is not Patented it has no value.
55. # 41 Spiritual
J.K. ,   Brooklyn USA   (11.27.10)
Alexander ! This is not spiritual,just crazy and pagan.
56. 49 Like when you talk about people you don't know!
(11.27.10)
57. 51 JK science has its limits
ORA ,   Jerisalem   (11.28.10)
And you choose to believe in science ,and limit yourself.Science did not invent anything,it only discovered what exists by jungling with existing elements,and by proving their newly found theory.There are many things that even scientists believe,for example telepathy and did not found the theory that proves its existence.Everybody knows there are things that we can not capt with our senses. Now there is a big difference between the Tora and superstition.The rules of most of the civilised world is based on the Tora.Billions bibles are edited .That says something on the value of the Tora.Ironically,the Jews in Israel,who should be the first to study what the whole world values,these Jews deny it.Buy a Tora book with good commentaries,read every week the Parasha of the week.If you agree,in a year from now we can discuss again,because than you will know about what you talk.May all the Jews do the same,and become the light of the nations.
58. Ora , we are the 'light unther the Nations"
Charles ,   Petach Tikva   (11.28.10)
mostly because of our kinowledge of science and technology . Billions of "bibles" are edited worldwide ? so what does this prove ? there are millions of comics edited too . Most of the rules of civilised world are based on torah laws ? People around the civilised world know that murder and stealing is bad , so they don't allow it , and punish it . Do the rules in the civilised world refer to a god ? They don't talk about this . What did religion contribute to Humanity ? How many people were murdered in name of "religion" ? not only Jews . Try to think about this : would you have been religious if you were NOT educated and brainwashed in this way ? I don't think it . My mother ZL wanted me to be an observing person . The only thing i did was having barmitzwa , nothing more .
59. 58 Charles
ORA ,   Jerusalem   (11.28.10)
I have to admit that i am not strong enough to change you in a Baale Teshuva.I still hope that you will encounter a stronger person than i.Because you are worth it.You have such a potential(i repeat myself,i know)it is a shame not to develope it to its outmost.Now let me answer your questions 1)There is a big difference between billions end millions. 2)There is a lot more in the Tora than just defence of murder and stealing. 3)USA the most powerful state of the world refers to G-D in its constitution,and on the dollars,where you can read :"In G-D we believe(if i remember well) 4)Murder in name of religion?The biggest murderers where atheists:Hitler and Stalin 5)I thank G-D that i was educated to believe in G-D.If not,I know what i would have missed.My life would have been a dark mess.Now my life is filled with light. I know why i am in this world and where i go.I know that i am never alone.G-d is with me. Charles,i know,it is because of your good heart,and the pain you feel for the shoa victims ,that you cann t believe in G-D.As you know i lost my mother in Auschwitz when i was a little girl.I feel consoled by thinking that she ,may her soul rest in peace,sees her many grandchildren in our wonderful homeland. For our children s sake,we need to follow the Tora commandments.They need to know from where they come,and where they are expected to go. Science +TORA will make from the Jewish people the light under the nations.
60. ora
Sookie ,   Louisiana   (11.28.10)
i like to read you ora! you are great!
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