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Israelis make cover of Iranian magazine
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Published: 30.11.10, 08:20
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1. only now you advertize this, this news
ghostq   (11.30.10)
r not new, the persians doesn't hate jews it's their leadership who hate jews, if only the great Cyrus would hear about this he probably fliped in his grave.
2. Congratulation
Rami of Nazareth ,   Israel   (11.30.10)
Why most israeli jews look down at arabic music and the language in general, this band was the exception and used it to promote peace and harmony
3. #2
Logic ,   Israel   (11.30.10)
True, a lot of people don't like arabic music, but others do like it.. I recall reading an interview with the former Egyptian Ambassador where he said how shocked he was to walk around in South Tel Aviv and hear Arabic music from the windows. There are a lot of older generation Iraqi Jews and Mizrahim who not only listen to Arabic music, but a few of the biggest Iraqi arabic music stars ended up in Israel in the 1950s.
4. I Agree with #2 and.....
Rami of Nazareth ,   Israel   (11.30.10)
these same old generation Iraqi, yemeni, etc.. jews, who loved and excelled in arabic music, upon arrival to israel where told their culture and the music they love is backward and should not be listened to. This view is still prevailing in Israel where the arabic language and culture is looked down at as if it is beneath the jews. This is why this group is some of the few exceptions and did succeed in traversing politics and borders
5. Has anyone listened to this "music"?It is satanic/neg/awful!
Adriana Calcanhoto ,   Belem/Para, Brasil   (12.01.10)
No wonder muslims in muslim nations appreciate this, the lead singer sounds like moloch calling in his snakes and evil doers! Go listen to them on youtube: horrifying, dark screaming in low tones and absolutely horrible satanic heavy metal - not to mention demonic messages & images (on some of the videos there). -- This isn't just a simple critique, go listen to it for yourselves: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IBqTUmyAZcw I'm glad they're on the cover of an iranian magazine but i wish it would be for something more beautiful & a better message from Israel.
6. Rami @ 4, it is expected for you to agree with yourself :)=)
leo ,   usa   (12.01.10)
7. "Metal" is not my cup of tea and Arabic music is not
leo ,   usa   (12.01.10)
something I am used too, but having Arabs and Jews playing together cannot be that bad.
8. As an old Black-Sabbath fan all I can say
tom ,   tel aviv   (12.01.10)
to the guys'n gal in Orphaned Land is: watch it! Next thing you'll start believing that "music can break down the borders & make us into one Human Brotherhood"- it's been said/done before , people even stayed in beds for days to bring Wolrd Peace. As the hebrew saying goes: don't let the urine get to your head guys& keep on playing yer guitars'n shut up!
9. Mizrahi tunes are The Original Jewish tunes
Avi ,   Israel   (12.01.10)
Not the ghetto music that stinks of gefillte fisch like an unwashed cunt. Up with the Israeli-Mizrahi music! (and I'm Ashkenazi!)
10. I agree with # 3
Rami of nazareth ,   Israel   (12.01.10)
my previous post had a typo where I intended to say: I agree with # 3 (not 2) Thanks leo....
11. #4 - your generalizations aren't really true
William ,   Israel   (12.01.10)
It is a fact that Europeans that came to Israel, with the perspective of classical music, did look down on Mizrachi culture which they didn't understand. But that subsided 40+ years ago. You were in Israel long enough to remember the only TV station in Israel was Channel 1, and on Saturday they broadcast Arabic dramas and movies. Everyone from the 70s and 80s remember these shows with nostalgia. You might also know of an Israeli band called Sheva which has both Jewish, Druze, and Muslim members, producing an interesting mix of Israeli Jewish and Arab music styles, with most songs speaking of peace and coexistence. They are popular as well. So, your generalizations really hold little water when faced with facts. I appreciate your service to the country and empathize with any difficulties you faced being Arab in Israel. But you lose credibility when you become that which you claim to disdain.
12. #9 - Who cares if you're Ashkenazi, Mizrahi, or purple..
William ,   Israel   (12.01.10)
its your comment that stings like an "unwashed c*nt", exposing you for the hateful person you are. I don't particularly like R&B music, but I wouldn't curse those who do. You have one serious scratch, my friend.
13. to #9 wow never meet a person who hate
ghostq   (12.02.10)
himself so much, and jews lived in gehttos in arab state, in Iraq they were allowed to live only on east of Bagdad and other arab states as well also in afrika after the big massacre. you a tad erogant to believe that only Europeen jews sufferd in gehttos. kinda sad indeed.
14. Rami @ 10, I know. It was just a joke.
leo ,   usa   (12.02.10)
15. Clarification to #13
Avi ,   Israel   (12.02.10)
You misunderstood my message completely. I never stated that only the Ashkenazis has ghettos. My point was that the music of the European Jewry is the most mixed one and far from the original. Many Ashkenazis think the Sephardi tunes are "too Arabic" but they forget that the Jewish culture comes from the Middle East. Without the diaspora our music would be like the Arabic music and our food would be as tasty as the Middle Eastern kitchen, without the disgusting Polish (sorry!) traditions. Do I hate myself? No, I have the right to state that gefillte fisch or regel ha'krusha are disgusting compared to couscous or hummus. Really!
16. Clarification to #15
Serge ,   Montreal, Canada   (09.13.11)
I am Ashkenazi. So is a lot of my family. I never met anyone who thinks, as you accuse, that the Sephardi tunes are "too Arabic". On the other hand, I did meet a lot of people like you who call East-Ashkenazi traditions "disgusting". In fact, it was pretty common, both among Yekkes and "Sephardim" from various Mizrahi edot. Perhaps you will work a little bit to overcome your common arrogance and prejudice, because you do not sound very nice.
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