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WikiLeaks: Netanyahu endorsed land swap concept
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Published: 30.11.10, 16:12
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1. Phony premises, broken promises-BB is a porta potty
Ben Temalion ,   Shiloh, MO USA   (11.30.10)
He will not rule the sewage treatment plant of Jenin, nor the morasha of Hebron. His principles are mobile and for rent like a porta potty. He will deny your right to the land of your own name. Like those that disenfranchised you before by saying that you cannot rule over the other forever, he denies the other's right of return to their homicidal Hamite peninsular homeland of their own name. Instead he woill unilaterlly deny your right to live in the land of your own name as he voted over&over&over&over and again with the freeze, not-to-mention paying the ransom of the first land of the first Jew in Hebron fore nothing. Like Lieberman, Danon, Arens, Landau, Bogie Ayalon, Sharansky, Bernard Lewis, Rober/Yisrael Aumann...they would cede your right to your land if only their was a partner whould say they would not come to kill you on a piece of paer. All the while as if they could cede that land of your own name, desecrate the blood of those who reclaimed it, that belongs to all Jews past present and future.
2. Land spam should be of similar size and similar use, i.e. ..
Jehudah Ben-Israel ,   Qatzrin, Israel   (11.30.10)
populated land for populated land, agricultural land for agricultural land, desert land for desert land. The most logical: the large Jewish settlement blocs in Judea and Samaria will become Israel's sovereign territory. In their stead, large Arab settlement blocs in sovereign Israel, e.g. Ara Valley, The Triangle, will become part of the new Arab sovereign state.
3. If I forgot you, O Jerusalem - Video !!
(11.30.10)
http://emunadate.blogspot.com/2010/11/jerusalem-day-if-i-forget-you-o.html
4. Thank you WikiLeaks :)
Salma ,   Palestine   (11.30.10)
An explicit recognition from Mr. Netanyahu that the West Bank and Gaza are not "Israeli" or Jewish land, but occupied territory. Now Bibi end the occupation & enter the history from the wide doors.
5. salma where is palestine?
martin ,   uk   (11.30.10)
do you live in jordan, 78% of the british mandate of palestine? Do you consider the term palestine fitting for an arab country? netanyahu is speaking a different language to what he has written in his books. Salma you and the other arab west bank settlers may have the world's sympathy, tho' for how much longer? how do you feel about suha arafat's stipend of $80million per year just to stay in malta and not discuss her paedophile husband's last years alive? come on and answer something for once!
6. salma the refugee in Lebanon #4
David ,   Haifa Israel   (11.30.10)
this coming from the thug who called me a settler in haifa.... you and your kind are all terrorists. homeless... it will stay that way. enjoy lebanon this winter
7. #4 The ancient people of Palestine???
Mike ,   Oxford UK   (11.30.10)
Name one palestinian King/Queen or Palestinian leander before the 1960s. Oh you can't... oh there isn't one? now that's a bit strange isn't it! How do you explain the fact that Hebron was the first capital of the Jewish people 2000 years before Mohamed invented Islam? That Jericho, Schem (nablus) etc were all inhabited by Jews? How do you explain all these things?
8. #4 - Salma - that isn't what he is saying
Chaya ,   Tel Aviv   (11.30.10)
He has never said that the 'west bank' (Judea and Samaria) does not historically belong to the Jewish people. All he is saying is that he doesn't want to rule over the Arabs living there. But there is a better solution - Jordan - it's the other half of what had been designated as Palestine - that is where you should go to live!
9. #5 martin , learn baby where is PALESTINE?!
Salma ,   Palestine   (11.30.10)
Palestine is at the eastern end of the Mediterranean Sea, and forms a land bridge connecting the continents of Africa and Asia. One of the longest continuously inhabited areas of the world, Palestine has been recognized as a distinct geographical region since the Greek and Roman eras. martin , I can't understand what's the connection between Suha Arafat and the land swap story!!!!
10. salma, salma #9 and 4
David ,   Haifa Israel   (11.30.10)
your ficticious palestine is israel.. the home is the jews... has been since king saul and king david. stay a refugee in lebanon or go home to jordan or arabia.
11. #4; Salma, and her desperation
Mark from Georgia ,   USA   (11.30.10)
This really is a classic example of how comments get twisted and fabricated. Now to quote Salma she writes: "An explicit recognition from Mr. Netanyahu that the West Bank and Gaza are not "Israeli" or Jewish land, but occupied territory. " But BiBi never said anything even remotely to that. Here is what BiBi said according the this article: "Netanyahu expressed support of a land swap as part of a peace agreement. He stressed to the US that Israel does not wish to control Gaza and the West Bank but rather prevent rockets being fired from those areas." In addition BiBi had an economic plan for one reason: "He said that as part of the plan a "pyramid" will be build from the ground up which will bolster the Palestinian Authority and provide an alternative to radical Islam." So BiBi spoke or wrote about two ideas, first stopping the rockets and second building the Pals economically to offer an alternative to radicalism and terrorism. Yet Salma actually writes a complete falsehood about what BiBi stated. Somehow in Salma's mind that became an "explicit recognition" That the WB and Gaza are not Israeli. But is does illustrate how the mind of people like her works. They basically just make it up as they go along. I just had to point this out as a classic example of the thinking in the Middle East. How distortions and lies are born.
12. Bibi:"Israel does not wish to control the West Bank"
Seppo ,   Finland   (11.30.10)
And looking at the talks, Israel WANTS to give it away for free. Abbas wants only the state and that's the end of the talks and the end of Jewish presence in his mind. The West accepts Arab apartheid because of "poor" Palis. Bibi: "but rather prevent rockets being fired from those areas. Bibi should rethink. After a couple of years their will be 40000 MISSILES in the WB from Iran, no more rockets. As soon as IDF moves out the flood of missiles from Syria and Lebanon and Iran starts. Nobody but IDF can prevent it. UN promised in 1701 to pervent the flow. All UN does is to look how Lebanon army murders Israeli officer and not even care to arrest or take his name. NATO high official said in the summer that NATO is no better than UN in peace keeping. Bibi wants to "provide an alternative to radical Islam". Americans tried that in Iraq and as soon as US troops will be gone Iraq is completely in hands of Iran. The same in Afganistan. Bibi cannot beat radical Islam. The only thing which helps is strength. Years ago Iran took American and Russian Embassies to hostages. Russians were release immediately when they threatened to bomb Teheran and Irans knew that they would do it. Establishing Pali state would mean that Bibi's follower will have 1967 war all over again.
13. Long Term
Zichron   (11.30.10)
In the long term as thermonuclear weapons proliferate the arabs of israel our bonded historical adversaries will have to be with us.
14. Salma will never see an indepndent "Palestine"
martin ,   uk   (11.30.10)
15. Peace on horizon!
Simon ,   HCMC, Vietnam   (11.30.10)
Children, do not fight for terminology, on horizon we see the peace between Israel and Palestinians, What it is mean – horizon? Horizon is imaginable line that is distancing itself as you are moving forward!
16. "Occupied territory" is not an illegal state!! It is...
Jehudah Ben-Israel ,   Qatzrin, Israel   (11.30.10)
...preferred that territories are not "occupied", but this what happens when a country win a war, especially in this case, a defensive war, and holds on the territory until a settlement of it is forthcoming. To date, the Muslim-Arab world has rejected all realistic options regarding the presently disputed territories, based on UN Security Council Resolution 242, as is, thus, the territory is still "occupied".
17. #11 Mark from Gorgia - you are spot on!!!!
brl   (11.30.10)
Isnt it amazing how these arabs twist the truth and are devoid of any logic? When is the world going to see it?
18. land swaps have been on the "peace" agenda for ages
rebecca ,   Modiin   (11.30.10)
What's news about Bibi supporting this?
19. Palestinians will trade Haifa for Jerusalem?
observer   (11.30.10)
20. Netanyahu .,..a spineless twit of a man
Al   (11.30.10)
He believes in nothing but his own BS. The poor people of Israel have never ever had any leadership worth a damn. The people keep on suffering and suffering.
21. to observer.... WHAT?
David ,   Haifa Israel   (11.30.10)
22. Salma is so successful on these talkbacks!
Yossef ,   Toronto/Rehovot   (11.30.10)
She would make certainly the best ever palestinian ambassador :) Nobody thought to give you this position in the PA ? They are dumb :-]) לך בשלום שלומית P.S. By the way, there have never been a palestinian kingdom but only few palestinian towns along the coast of the kingdom of Israel. And you know very very well, because you are very very well educated that "palestinian" refer to a greek people coming from the sea and not an arab people, you and us were at this time the arabs (from arabic peninsula), not them. Anyway...
23. stupid
Lim Kong Chang ,   Johor Bahru Malaysia   (11.30.10)
Those who very care about Wikileaks is so stupid. We Chinese never care about what is written in wikileaks.
24. #22 Yossef ,I smell the irony in your words: (
Salma ,   Palestine   (11.30.10)
Am I Wrong, my friend ?! any way, my ambitions are bigger than a position in the PA ; ) For other things, you will change your mind when you come to visit me.........I'm waiting for you , Yossef :)
25. What Terrifying Leaders Would Surrender
Linda Rivera ,   New York   (11.30.10)
G-D Given Jewish Land to Terrorists? Muslim terrorists who adore and greatly honor Muslim terrorist killers of Jewish innocents including Jewish pregnant mothers and little children. Such leaders are utterly unfit to rule. Have Jews not suffered enough already? The Palestinian Authority hailed as heroes the terrorists who brutally murdered defenseless 8 months pregnant Jewish mother, Tali Hatuel, and 4 little daughters in Gush Katif in May 2004. Muslim killers of Jewish children are adored-Palestinian Authority newspaper al-Hayat al-Jadida called savage child-killer Kuntar "a beacon of light" and an "authentic role model." PA leader, Abbas, called Kuntar a hero. Syria's Assad said Kuntar was chief among honorable men and awarded Kuntar Syria's highest medal, the Syrian Order of Merit.
26. All Land Stolen From Jews Must Be Returned
Linda Rivera ,   New York   (11.30.10)
There Never was an Arab country of Palestine. Jerusalem was Never the capital of any Arab or Muslim entity. Jerusalem is mentioned over 700 times in the Jewish Bible, not once in the Koran. The inalienable rights of Jews to the Biblical heartland must not be violated! No one is demanding Muslims surrender THEIR top religious areas of Mecca and Medina! In 1948, Egypt invaded Gaza, ethnically cleansing all Jews and in 1948, Jordan invaded Judea, Samaria and east Jerusalem, ethnically cleansing all Jews. In violent opposition to G-D, Muslim Jordan destroyed 58 synagogues in Jerusalem. The jihad is against the Holy One. When Israel won the Arab war of aggression in 1967, Jews returned to the areas of their ancestral homeland they had been ethnically cleansed from for 19 years. Anti-Israel propaganda deceitfully calls Jews' legitimate return "occupation". Jews have had a continuous presence in physical and spiritual homeland Israel for 4,000 years. All Land and Property Stolen from Jews in the 1948 Islamic Invasion Must be Returned!
27. plo corruption
martin ,   uk   (11.30.10)
as a tax payer, i detest having to pay indirectly to you people to sit around all day long waiting for your charity money. you should all go to jordan and work there under the benign leadership of the hashemite king (originally from arabia. your leaders have wrung $billions from the west and, just like your friends in the eu, is still unaccounted for. palestine is only a british colonial name for arab west bank and east bank (prior to Transjordan) settlers. read mark twain's book "innocents abroad" and ask where you and your kind came from, and more importantly, why?
28. To Salma the "Palestinian"
Alexander ,   Tel Aviv, Israel   (11.30.10)
Why is it that "Palestine" is never mentioned in the Bible nor in the Koran? "Palestine" is a ROMAN/LATIN name. There is no letter "p" in Arabic. What kings, dynasties, palaces, temples, philosophers, philosophies, currency, language, alphabet, religion, capital, cities, towns, villages, mountains, valleys, lakes, rivers, waters, coastlines, borders and neighbors did you have? Why is it that the ancient Jews/Israelites/Hebrews of ancient Israel, Canaanites, Philisteenes, Phoenicians, Edomites, Amorites, Moabites, Egyptians, Hittites, Sumerians, Babylonians, Assyrians, Persians, Greeks, Romans, East Rome, Arab Caliphate, Ottoman/Osman Empire and European Christian Medieval sources NEVER SPOKE ONCE of any "Palestinian" race of people, tribe, ethnicity, nationality, culture, identity, history, nation, kingdom, kings or dynasties, state, city state, republic, duchy, principality or empire? How do you account for that? What makes you "Palestinian" besides your lies - claiming that my land is yours - and your Jew hatred and your rewriting of 4000 years of Jewish history? You Arabs are not the ancient, original or native population of Israel. WHY do you insist on stealing our land? WHY? Do you want to lead and live and Arab national life? Go ahead - there are 22 artificial Arab states without history, origin or purpose. You need land? 22 Arab states 1.5 times bigger than USA - isn't that enough? You THINK that Israel is yours? THINKING that my land is yours doesn't make it yours. A thief can steal your house and car and claim it's his because he thinks it is his. In the same way, you think Israel is yours because you want it. That makes you a thief Salma. The Bible and the Koran are against theft. The Bible and the Koran are against lies as well. Since you are claiming that Israel is "Arab" or "Palestinian" you are lying. But you are right on two things: the owners of the land should live there (the Jews) and the occupiers and colonialists should leave (the Arabs) and two, Israel has been called "Palestine" for centuries by European Crusaders but the name of "Palestine" was always interconnected with the name of Israel and the name of "Palestine" was always understood to be the unofficial name for the Jews' ancient homeland - Eretz Israel. Salma, what's the name of you favorite "Palestinian" king, what was he famous for and what was his capital called and when was he in power?
29. the salma phenom..
Jennie ,   US/Israel   (11.30.10)
The salma rhetoric is a perfect example of a known mentality of her tribe: repeat a lie often enough & eventually it becomes truth.. From "cradle", they have been raised with blind hate for Jews and Israel, killing whom and taking their land is their "sacred"duty...Isn't it hillarious for her calling Israel illegal ?!
30. #9 - Really Salma? I believe you're partly correct
William ,   Israel   (11.30.10)
"Palestine" was considered a distinct region during Greek and Roman times (before 70AD). It was the province in Syria. Now the "Palestine" today was simply that name incorrectly placed on the Jewish homeland after the ethnic cleansing by Romans. They already admitted to it in their own writings, and through expert historians on this era. "Palestine" was never an autonomous entity (remember this) but can be considered "distinct", much like Bordeaux is a distinct region of France. You are correct in that this land bridge was populated continuously, though not heavily, throughout the ages...but not by your people which came from Arabia as written in your own Koranic writings and by Islamic historians.
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