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Dutch politician urges Jews to 'emigrate to US or Israel'
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Published: 07.12.10, 12:32
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31. I've heard the Dutch are emigrating as well
Cameron ,   USA   (12.07.10)
Europe grows more spooked with each passing year.
32. We Dutch Jews are here to stay!!
female ,   Tel Aviv/Amsterdam   (12.07.10)
We Dutch Jews are here (in the Netherlands) to stay!! Don't be too harsh on Mr Bolkestein, he is Pro-Israel....but Holland is eating what they have coocked for the last 30 years, they brought the uneducated Morrocans from the Rif mountains to do the dirty work that the Dutch didn't want to do, now 3 generations later we realize that they don't intergrate, have low or no education, they are falling into the criminal circuit and are extreme in their believes (Islam), most of them live of social securities, have lots of kids, but the Dutch Government is a weak one, but I believe in Mr Wilders, stronger punishments, no more Muslim Immigration!!! and do like Zwitserland, if you commit a crime, take away the Dutch nationality and 1 way ticket back to Morroco....that will teach them....
33. to #26 afrikans didn't had much choise
ghostq   (12.07.10)
they were forced, Marokans choose willingly to immigrate to Holand, you can't blame someone who got no choise and was treated badly by mainly the British, the story here is diferent.
34. Netherlands sent over 75% of its Jews to the slaughter
Eitan ,   Chicago   (12.07.10)
...while Denmark protected nearly all of its Jews from Germany's campaign of genocide. What does that tell you about the Netherlands' sincerity? Let them overrun themselves. I hope the Moroccans will know how to operate a dike when the last Dutchman turns off the lights.
35. #1 is right
Jeff ,   California   (12.07.10)
Jews in Europe should stop complaining about prejudice against them and leave for the US or Israel. The Europeans don't want Jews in their countries. What is it going to take, another 6 million before they finally get the point they are not wanted there?
36. No future
J.K. ,   Brooklyn USA   (12.07.10)
What future is there for christians in Holland against the Muslim invasion ?.
37. #35. Jeff, Cal: Think about it one more time
Thomas ,   Dixieland USA   (12.07.10)
I doubt that European Jews would find much commonalities with the Obama loving, Israel hating, radical Marxist American Jewry. Soros, Jstreet, N.Y.Times, Boxer, Feinstein, etc....ring any bells?
38. expell violent muslims and their whole families
real vision ,   usa   (12.07.10)
Time for Netherland to stand up for freedom and expell, jail those who threaten others. If they don't start now then there is no hope for the dutch to enjoy their freedoms
39. wake up europe
real vision ,   usa   (12.07.10)
the muslims in europe will contribute nothing to your society except misery, confusion and death and destruction. You were much better off with productive, educated jews, but your anti semetic ways caused blindness. NOW DEAL WITH THE MUSLIMS
40. Come to think of it, we cannot really criticize him
Tahl ,   Ashdod   (12.07.10)
Not that I agree with Bolkestein (my view is the same as Wilders' - Holland is a Western country and which must make every effort to remain hospitable to Jews), yet he cannot reasonably be criticized over this statment, as he's merely reiterating what many Jews are saying on this matter.
41. Holland is on the verge of capitulation
Chris Rettenmoser ,   Bayerisch Gmain Germ   (12.07.10)
to the violent Jew hating Muslims... These pot heads have lost their way and will become a colony of radical Islam...I never liked them...has anyone ever seen the Rudi Carell show...hopefully not...
42. #1, zionist forever...I join you...!!!!
Chris Rettenmoser ,   Bayerisch Gmain Germ   (12.07.10)
43. To: Jose at No. 17
Sarah B ,   U.S.A. / Israel   (12.07.10)
Thank you so much for your kind words. I agree with you. Some of us live in the galut; some of us live in the galut part-time and b'Aretz part-time. Ultimately, though, Israel IS our country. It is the only place we will ever be able to live without fear of persecution. As the Dutch Jews learned this morning ....
44. throughout history evil people hate good people (the jews)
ralph   (12.07.10)
45. You are incorrect
Johan van den Top ,   The Netherlands   (12.07.10)
For the Dutch media is all over it with the remarks of this 'cowardly' man. Stop your own propaganda I would suggest. Politicians (esspecially) in Europe and so also the Netherlands should take responsibility and fight this to the bitter drop!! Warm greetings for Israel and its people from the Netherlands, Johan van den Top
46. Anti-Semitism-in Holand
Issy Hass ,   Ra'anana-Isreal   (12.07.10)
Sir-what is new aswe heard this before The safest place for Jews,even chrestians,is Israel Don't leave it too late
47. muslims are the new jews in Europe.
ivan ,   haifa   (12.07.10)
48. To Mr Bolkestein: NEVER AGAIN!
John DeLancy ,   Alaska, USA   (12.07.10)
49. To: Mark at No. 26
Sarah B ,   U.S.A. / Israel   (12.07.10)
Oh, I know. I'm torn between being extremely angry and extremely sad and disappointed. I do remember one thing my father (z.l.) said to me -- he told me that inside every Jew in the Diaspora, no matter how assimilated, no matter how accomplished, no matter how prestigious -- lives a huddled-over person, sitting on a packed suitcase, ready to leave at a moment's notice. It would appear, sadly, that he was correct. The Arab and Islamic populations in Europe and the modern-day equivalent of the Nazi brownshirts. You would think that, of all people, the Dutch would know where that will lead. Thank G-d for Israel; our homeland. Thank G-d also for proving to us why we cannot give up one square centimeter of land. We can send the ersatz "Palestinians" from Judea and Samaria to Holland. Turnabout is fair play.
50. To: No. 21
Sarah B ,   U.S.A. / Israel   (12.07.10)
No, I am not being paid by YNet. I know a great deal about Middle Eastern history and politics generally, and even more about the Arab-Israeli conflict specifically. No one is forcing you to read my posts. Feel free not to read them -- especially if the best response you can come up with is represented by your silly little post at No. 21.
51. To: SomeDUDE at No. 13
Sarah B ,   U.S.A. / Israel   (12.07.10)
Toda raba! Hashavta lehapess avodat aheret? Ouch. I really need a Hebrew keyboard ....
52. Moroccan Contradictions
Yusuf Ibn Dawood   (12.07.10)
I am puzzled because Morocco had one of the largest North African Jewish communities. In Morocco the Arabs are not as anti-Jewish as those outside of Morocco. It seems that those Moroccans in exile who hate the King of Morocco also hate the Jews too. It is the likes of Rami and his anti-Jewish Radio Islam that seems to be hosted online by an American internet company that may be influencing things against Jews.
53. To #16 Thanks!
John DeLancy ,   Alaska, USA   (12.07.10)
Thank you for your explanation. From the article, it looks like Mr Bolkestein is in fact telling Jews "go away, you have no future here." Seeing this as a cry of alarm instead changes the entire tenor. I still say that Jews should never be made to flee Europe again, but it is good to know that Mr Bolkestein wasn't simply another voice chasing Jews away. And you are correct, not all or even most Dutch were collaborators, as Casper Ten Boom and his daughter Corrie could have attested.
54. schadenfreude
Laurence ,   Santa Ana, USA   (12.07.10)
I am enjoying watching Europe sink further into the death swamp of multiculturalism by way of islam. 50 years ago, you got rid of 6 million Jews. Now you've got 20 million Muslims. Looks like you made a very bad trade. Israel and USA - no better place to be a Jew.
55. You are not alone in that sentiment, #54
Cameron ,   USA   (12.07.10)
Now I say that even though I'm a dual national, and carry an EU passport, but I've had it with European attitude & behavior.
56. To: Yusuf Ibn Dawood at No. 52
Sarah B ,   U.S.A. / Israel   (12.07.10)
Thank you for your reasoned comment. However, I think you may have missed the point somewhat. Every citizen of the Netherlands deserves the protection of the State. What has happened here is that an influential official has thrown up his hands and said, essentially, "Our Arab and Islamic community do not like Orthodox Jews and we cannot (or will not) protect you, so you better leave." It is the job of the Dutch government to make sure that the Orthodox Jewish community is not subject to threats of violence. And if they cannot do that, or if their efforts fail, it isn't the Orthodox Jewish community that should pay the price, but rather those segments of Dutch society that encourage hatred and violence. Most troubling is the fact that the Dutch have a history -- the extent of their collaboration with the Nazis during World War II is well-known and well-documented. The Dutch, of all people, should know better. During World War II, the overwhelming majority of the Jewish community in the Netherlands died in the concentration camps. It would appear that the more things change, the more they stay the same. The Dutch should be very, very ashamed.
57. Perhaps but where will you go?
Grote Lul Met Vinger ,   New Amsterdam, US   (12.07.10)
Mnr. Bolkestein might be correct about the Jews. But after the Muslim take over of Holland, where will all the native Dutch go. There is certainly no future for them as Dhimmis. Thank G-d the Jews have a country...can't say the same will hold true for the poor Dutch and the rest of Europistan.
58. #19 - that's not proof, Salma
William ,   Israel   (12.07.10)
Jews may be protected from adverse elements in Morocco but that doesn't mean Moroccans are not anti-semetic. Protection from the King is what gives Jews the right to live and visit the country. Now if Muslims immigrate to Europe, especially to a country that is poor in handling anti-semetic acts or just plain trying to hold favor with the Muslim community, they are free to attack Jews without the wrath of their King miles away. Let's not forget that those who usually immigrate to Western countries from Muslim lands are poorer, more conservative, more religious, and more racist. That's a fact. Turks may be wonderful people too but the ones in Germany and Swiss are jackasses, and synagogues with 4-inch bullet-proof glass is the proof of this.
59. #47 - no, Muslims are Muslims, Jews are Jews
William ,   Israel   (12.07.10)
You're trying to push a replacement theology. There is no "new Jews" only a new wave of immigration from a different population. Except, unlike Jews who integrated themselves into society and were true citizens of their countries, Muslims do not provide such respect to their host countries, a point Wilders has pointed out many times. Arafat once tried to portray the "Palestinians" as the "new Jews" including the claim that G-d gave Jerusalem to them in place of the Jews. In reality, they're just a bunch of mis-placed Arab economic immigrants caught in the middle of a war of which they supported the losing side.
60. 57They can build a homeland in ....
ORA ,   Jerusalem   (12.08.10)
Ouganda,snubbed by the Jews.
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