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The escape from Holland
Lilit Wagner
Published: 17.12.10, 07:48
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31. LISTEN TO THIS YOUNG MAN, HEAR HIS WORDS!!!!
David P. ,   Capitola, CA   (12.18.10)
more countries are lining up with Holland, it's not just the beginning but rather a continuation
32. Rich Canuck # 17
Ginette Golden ,   Toronto, Canada   (12.18.10)
You moron! You must be talking about Holland 40 years ago. Did you take a good look at Europe lately? As David (# 2) says: "Eventually they will turn on each other." So let time do its job! Besides all that, Canada is a pretty safe place however I rather live in Israel with corruption and all. soon in a few years...
33. Don't panic!!
MOI ,   ICI   (12.18.10)
As a Dutch myself, i left Holland 30 years ago but visit at least 3 times a year, I never had any trouble, but I'm not orthodox....the problem lies with the Morrocan youth, who are low educated, not intergrated, have extreme believes, are anti-israel but most of all they are so ignorant. We can't wait till the Morrocan community will do something coz they won't...its not only the orthodox Jews they target but also Homosexuals....the only solution is much more harsh punishments, the punishments in the Netherlands don't fit the crime, Netherlands is probably the best country to commit a crime, most of the times these kids just get a slap on their hands....the Dutch can only blame themselves, they brought the Morrocans and Turkish in the 70's to do the dirty work that the Dutch didn't want to do and gave them citizenship, now the Dutch should eat what they have coocked for the past 30 or so years.....there should be a law that if an immigrant commits a violent crime, he should send back to his country of origin and take away his Dutch nationality, and NO MORE MUSLIM/AFRICAN IMMIGRATION, WE ARE A SMALL COUNTRY WITH MORE THEN 17 MILLION PEOPLE, HOLLAND IS FULLLLL!!
34. Fleeing in the dead of night.....
Mikesailor ,   Miami, FL   (12.18.10)
I am glad to see the art of writing satire is not dead in the Jewish state. Those dastardly Hollanders ( Dutch, Netherlanders, Hollandaise?) made this poor brave Jew so frightened, because of: 1) he couldn't wear his fur hat' because the weather was too warm or 2) he couldn't find a good bagel. Funny how he 'fled' and his father stayed behind. Where is he going to live now? In an Israeli settlement in the Wst Bank? Where he can feel safe? It is funny how Jews contnuouslypublish articles like these promoting the idea that 'antisemitism' is rampant and the only solution is to move to 'safe' Israel. I know getting anyone to move to Israel is difficult, where the rabbis edicts control the government, the rule of law is almost nonexistent, and the seculars are leaving in droves, but don'tyou think this 'fear' card is becoming slightly overused as a tactic to increase immigration?
35. #34
(12.18.10)
funny post you wrote. by the way, do you realize that the biggest jewish migration between 2008-2010 was from your country, the usa???? do you also realize that the biggest jewish migration at that time was from turkey, 5800 jews left turkey just this year. seen any jewish persecution in turkey and the usa lately??? i didn't. so, your claim that jews leave foreign countries because of persecution and playing the antisemitic card is full of hot air and completely your own imagination and a big lie! additionally, most of those leaving the usa FOR ISRAEL are young unmarried jews that HAVE NEVER BEEN PERSECUTED IN THE USA AT ALL. NEVER. for you to say that these jews are playing the fear card is insane. and by the way, most seculars do not leave israel as you claim. there is not a great migration from israel for the past 8 years at all. in fact, more incoming jews than those leaving. look at statistics,, my friend. because of the usa economic situation almost half the israei expats have left for israel the past two years. they went back home. no one is trying to increase immigration and israel is not forcing anyone or using any fear c ard to bring people to this israel. this is in your imagination. most that do come come because they want to be there and they want to belong to a country that is jewish. that is all. enough said. i have talked to many of them in israel when i was there this year (my first trip because i also live and am citizen of the usa and also visit iran sometimes because) have family there still alive. all the young jews that immigrated to israel came willingly and planned on coming for many many years. no one forced them. no one came because of persecution. but it is nice for them to know that should the antisemitism increase, they have somewhere to go and be safe. hameed aboughaze, iranian
36. escape from Amsterdam
debbie ,   israel   (12.18.10)
The situation would be funny if it weren't so damn tragic. Europe is giving up it's Jewish population, people of education, culture, and intelligence, for an influx of Arabs, primitive, backward, violent people who have nothing to offer their hosts, but only leach off them. Way to go, Europe!!!
37. escape from Holland
debbie ,   israel   (12.18.10)
TO RICH OF TORONTO I've been to Amsterdam several times, and I didn't notice any way, in which the standard of livingin Holland is one bit higher than in Israel. Can you back this claim up at all? Israel is light years ahead of Holland, in terms of technology, building, culture, you name it.
38. rectify talkbacks
Dutch jew ,   Israel   (12.18.10)
@17,19. Both of you obviously haven't walked around in Amsterdam, Den Haag or Rotterdam with a kipa on your head. I have experienced lot's of anti-semitism and mostly although not only of morrocon youth. I have been attacked on several occasions, and can adhere to the above. It's very sad, but you can't walk around in most parts of the these capitals as a Jew. @29, this "Sonja" is obviously mistaken, as first of all rabbi Evers has 10 kids, with 2 kids still going to school. 5 of the 10 kids are still living in Holland
39. Moslems
Yona ,   Israel   (12.18.10)
Not only Holland, but soon all of Europe will be mostly Moslem, so even the Xtians will be in danger there.
40. escape from holland
debbie ,   israel   (12.19.10)
TO #30, MIRA You sound like a bitter, mean, hateful woman. Ignorant and stupid, too. I'm so glad I don't know you.
41. #37 debbie
Rudolph ,   Norway   (12.19.10)
Debbie, there are many, many reports written were the standard of living in different countries are compared. You just need to Google on it, and you'll find quite conclusive result backing up Rich from Toronto's claims. Among those reports made by the U.N. but also Newsweek made a really nice report about it.
42. social exclusion, is used
sweeter than honey ,   far away   (12.20.10)
against jews at times. however jews themselves use social exclusion in the diaspora against other jews, (social exclusion is a socilogical term that has legal and political definition in europe). class warfare engendered is like any other warfare. what goes around, comes around, as the wheel of fortune turns. we're all in this together? like we were? like we were? don't make me laugh.
43. The Dutch leftwing
Bryna Hellmann ,   Amsterdam   (12.23.10)
However you define the left in Holland, they are not anti-Semites and not pro-radical Muslims That slogan is not a 'leftist' slogan, it's what stupid young men yelled at soccer games when the A'dam club played (they had a Jewish manager for awhile). If anyone is spouting it, it's the same sort of stupid men, Christian and Moslem both. And what Bolkestein suggested: that Jews leave, is really anti-Semitic! What he's saying is, we won't protect you. Didn't the Nazis want the Jews to leave?
44. Please Don't Come To USA
Draconius ,   NYC USA   (01.09.11)
We have too many Jews here already. Go to Israel, where US tax dollars will allow you to live in style.
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