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IDF: Haredim abusing psych exemption
Yossi Yehoshua
Published: 20.12.10, 21:20
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1. Charedim always play the system
Yaakov ,   New York City   (12.21.10)
Charedim expected to be the most honest? Wrong. If there's a way for them to get around laws and secular rules, they are the first to find them and take advantage. In the U.S., their neighborhoods have no tax money because they live on welfare and turn their homes into shuls which don't owe taxes. Scam, scam, scam.
2. religious bashers
zalman dean ,   haifa isreal   (12.21.10)
We all know that major- general Stern has an obsession with ultra-orthodox Jews and probably religious people altogether, and strives to attack the reigious from any aspect . including the programs that encourage the religious to serve in the idf. just exactly how these statistics were derived at [absolute numbers percentages , what?]we are not told. Nor are we told the numbers of recruits who have psychiatric overlooked and leave the idf with permanent psychiatric disability as a result. what kind of a person refers to people with psychiatric disability "psychos". one has the feeling that these two (the major-gen and the lady psychologist, G-d save us from her) suspect all psychiatric exemptions and ignored any other explanations to the discrepancy of the figures because it fit their pre-determined point of view point of view.
3. Israel benefits immensely from all those psychotics and
Ronia ,   Eilat   (12.21.10)
all those years spent exclusively on gazing at the Torah and laboriously inspecting every letter in it. Cut out all allowances for worthless university students and give it all to the haredi. Deduct a subsistence tax of 15% from everybody's salary and give it to them too. Make all government officials pay 50% of their salary and all businesses pay 50% of their profit to them. Give them free houses and utilities and two cars per household. These are definitely the the crème de la crème of Israeli society. Let them stare steadfastly and unwaveringly at the Torah and let others go out on the field and risk their lives.
4. SIMPLY START AN IDF SUPER BATTALION OF PSYCHOTIC HEREDI
JEWBIE ,   NYC USA   (12.21.10)
WHAT A FABULOUS WEAPONS SYSTEM...
5. "We would expect the haredi sector...
david ,   jerusalem   (12.21.10)
"We would expect the haredi sector of all people to act honestly." Why would you??? Because they wear a piece of cloth on their heads? Because they read this awful book called the Torah? Because they call themselves 'the chosen people', and 'the light to the goys'?
6. To all those who think this is a scam
Sagi   (12.21.10)
This is for real. They are indeed in a very deep psychotic state of mind. They have been brainwashed since birth and they have no concept of right and wrong, no concept of decency or moral and ethical conduct, they are incapable of dealing with the real world and most certainly incapable of dealing with military service. I do not say these things lightly or jokingly but rather with sincerity and belief and a touch of sorrow.
7. The Haredim are WHIMPS!
Talula ,   Israel   (12.21.10)
They are fragile and pathetic - but the good news is they get at 98 profile in sponging money from a State that they do not respect nor contribute to.
8. Psyc exemption can come with disability benifits and label
Eric ,   Tel Aviv & NY   (12.21.10)
Just thinking aloud here, but I do know that some psych exemptions can work in conjunction with disability classification and benefits - could this be used to stigmatize those looking to be exempted? What person with a formal psych disability would be considered a good match for a religious marriage let alone to study torah all day?
9. We're all crazy!
Yehuda ,   Ashdod, ISRAEL   (12.21.10)
Why is this surprising? By 'chiloni' standards, anyone who is haredi is meshugga by definition!
10. CLEAR ITS A CHILLUL HASHEM
YEHUDA AVNER ,   JERUSALEM   (12.21.10)
AND THEIR RABBANIM WANT THEM TO DO THIS -----??????
11. Ballerina shoes legged IDF soldiers
ORA ,   Jerusalem   (12.25.10)
together with Haredi soldiers, offensive, successful.The ennemy dropped death from laughter. Forcing unprepared Haredi in the army is a marvel of ridicule.Therefore we do not have to give up the idea ,to enroll Haredi in the IDF.This project needs brain and feet.The State could launch from now on a law,which obliges all the schools,included Haredi schools to give the pupils Swimming lessons and phisical exercises,at least one hour four days a week. At the age of being enroled,the Haredi boys will be prepared to enter in the army.
12. What I am going to say is not an accusations against the>
Anat ,   Karkur/Israel   (01.18.12)
Against the Haredim perse: let them go to the Yeshiova and pray. However(,unless they are really too incapacitated physically through some illness) THEY SHOULD ALL SERVE IN THE MILITARY.The country needs every man women to join the services THAT IS PARAMOUNT for the DEFENCE of the country they are supposed to be praying for.Praying is good,but does not help when Israel is attacked from, all sides needing the military to defend it. I can see below me someone saying: religious bashers? Not at alll zalman in haifa.. It just makes perfect sense.Wonder if you 'd be so glib when hamas or Hezballah decides to attack Israel and we are in need of more soldiers to defend Israel... Time has come for Israel to separate religion from the military once and for all.. The haredims claim to fame is the FACT (I approve of ) ( necessary in a way) Is:That they help the demographics through their procration versus the islamist who procreate like rabbits....... Incidently we have hundreds of ultra religious soldiers who serve in the IDF with distinctiion..Why is this being debated now is a wonder..
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