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Rabbis' wives: Don't date Arabs
Yair Altman
Published: 28.12.10, 21:39
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31. no dutchy i have been there
(12.29.10)
As a female who was once married to an arab man early on I can tell you most of this is not folly. There are some things which are inheriant in one's nature and psyche that does not go away because it ends up becoming enmeshed with the persons environment so much so that it becomes part of their ways which can not be broken. There are some things which should not mix. In my case, I could see how after one year with this man how it was doomed to fail. We both thought we could change how the world thought but in the end it was not a good union. Although some men act this way who are not arabs, their clans give way to this type of behavior also.
32. Hey Dutchy in Holland
(12.29.10)
Are you a man or woman. And if you are a man, are you going to get yourself an arab lady there in Holland?
33. Dont date a Jew !
Avi ,   Israel   (12.29.10)
What if that were the headlines of a European newspaper ? The very same hypocrites would be shouting "antisemitism" from the roof tops. This wave of rascism wsweeping Israel can only do harm, espescially fro jews living abroad. But what should we expect from the son of His Royal Holliness Ayatollah Ovadia Yosef.
34. Suppose I said don't marry
John Robey ,   Austin Texas   (12.29.10)
black people, don't rent to black people and don't marry black people....we tried that in the USA and it didn't work out too well....but even our KKK never thought of segregated highways or highways for catholics, one muslims one for orthodox Jews, one for reform, one for.... how silly Israel has become.
35. 14 Million and Declining Fast
Noah Lev ,   Los AngelesUSA   (12.29.10)
Personally, any Jew who dates a Muslim deserves his (her) fate The real educatin begins at home Why anyone would want to marry a gentile is beyond me? Few of the offspring become "Jewish" and are taught to hate their Jewish relatives incuding fathers. This has nothing to do with Hitler or religious Jew dating non religious Jew. In the old U/SA, a ?Christian could not marry a non-Christian or be killed. Muslims marrying Christians. Heaven forbid. But when a group of rabbis decry the practice..Diaspora Jewry becomes involved and critical. 600,000 Jews lost in 30 years thanks to intermarriage, assimilation and lack of interest. Yes, we Jews are something. We advocate abortions, same sex marraiges, intermarriage and free spirit. Thats why we are disappearing and are a doomed people. Those rabbis are right..its in our Torah guys for a reason. And btw, how many are actually involved in this latest controversy.?
36. Enforce Discrimination Laws Equally
Noah Lev ,   Los AngelesUSA   (12.29.10)
Racism or reverse discrimination? If the Arabs had open rentals (or purchases), AND the Jews didnt, I would agree its racism. Its really tit for tat isnt it? Can a Jew live anywhere in Israel, like the Galilee? Arabs build in the W. Bk and Jerusalem (illegally) yet Jews are frozen out by the world? Israel needs simply to enforce anti-discrimination laws on the books or pass new ones. Arab discriminates, Jews emulate. So what! In the US of A, Jews are not allowed in many places, even NYState....but the laws say otherwise. However, re: dating..and intermarriage...you are Jewish, marry a Saudi or Jordanian.Try it there. Ham and bagels gives one indigestion.
37. Dates Dont Reveal Deeds Vs Faith
Noah Lev ,   USAHollywood   (12.29.10)
To Bat Zion: you are absolutely correct. For doubters..read the Torah...laws of Moses. Most gentiles dont want a Jew in their family..but some approve. to the chagrin of Christians/and Muslims who do not believe interfaith marriages. We can go further..nationalistic motiges are sometimes even stronger..Irish, vs Italian, vs German, vs Russian, vs Turkish. Get the point. Few offspring are Jewish...a schonda. Most children of intermarriagesw that I know of, are raised Catholic., initial promises notwithstanding. And what happens if a divorce? Read the various lawsuits...children eating ham, while father tears his hair out with dismay. Stop the problem in the bud...we have Torah, we dont need the "Word" or be saved. We have deeds, not just faith. You will not know the difference on a date guys.
38. Jews should not marry out of their faith.
pinchas ,   boston   (12.29.10)
Hasn't that been the axiom of Jewish parents for centuries? So why does ynet make this normative request into some kind of scandal? Why is it that in the state of Israel today it's considered by a major newspaper to be racist bigotry (and perhaps a form of incitement punishable by law ?) for a Jew to urge that Jews stick with their own kind? This story and headline prove once again to me that most ynet editors and reporters belong to a lower species of journalist, skilled at inflating and manufacturing news and giving it a pronounced leftist angle. Maybe not as blatant as the ideologues at Haaretz, but bad enough.
39. 24# no.. oh.. no Dutchy
Roy ,   Miami   (12.29.10)
It is a fact that Your country have the highest density of mosques in Europe. Stick to this opinion of racism and soon you will have to convert and wear the Burqa in Holland and speak maroccan or turkish. That of course will not be called racism. For this reason, rabbi wives have a point.
40. 24 =Dutchy - It is not safe
Bruriah Sarah   (12.29.10)
Young Jewish girls are lured to marry Arab men. Then the girls move to an arab village. Contact with her family is cut off. Her husband beats her and she loses her rights as a woman. If she wants to leave, the husband keeps the children. http://www.yadlachimusa.org.il/?CategoryID=195&ArticleID=685
41. Jews AREN'T SUPPOSED to date non-Jews...
Devir Yavin ,   San Francisco, U.S.   (12.29.10)
And dating non-Jews who are especially hostile to Jews is just plain stupid. Jewish women who date Arabs should be given a Darwin Award...
42. To #24 Dutchy
John DeLancy ,   Alaska, USA   (12.29.10)
(2nd try) The article you posted to answers this question: Bentzi Gopstein, a senior member of Lehava and a student of Rabbi Kahane, told Ynet: "It is important to explain that the problem is religious, not racist. If my son were to decide to marry an Arab woman who converted, I wouldn't have a problem with that. My problem is the assimilation that the phenomenon causes." This isn't some neo-Nazi or Muslim racist, it's someone who doesn't want the Jews to disappear. As the rabbi above shows, the problem is not your ethnicity, the only problem would be whether you are going to take a Jewish person away from her faith and force her to raise her children to be Muslim or another Jew-hating group, like the Arabs have done. And if you do, the only thing the Jews would do in response is be sad. It's the racist Muslims that practice "honor-killing" (another self-contradictory term courtesy of the same Islam that brought us jihad - so-called "holy" war) if a Muslim woman marries a non-Muslim man. So, Dutchy - are you clear on racism now or should I draw you a picture?
43. #4 Rami, be realistic for a change
BEN JABO ,   ISRAEL   (12.29.10)
Are your Arab girls allowed to date Jewish men ? What if one does, how will she be treated by the community ?
44. #24 Dutchy - since you mentioned "Racism"
BEN JABO ,   ISRAEL   (12.29.10)
allow me to inform you of the Arab version, known as "Dhimmitude" The position of non-Muslims living under Islamic rule (dhimmi) is a widely misunderstood topic. Those wishing to attack Islam and its systems portray Islam’s treatment of the dhimmi as worse than its treatment of animals. Historical incidents where dhimmi suffered persecution at particular times are generalised and quoted out of context in order to back up their claims. Joseph Farah, founder of the WorldNetDaily news site states: Under Islamic Shari’ah law, non-believers – Christians and Jews anyway – are permitted to live as long as they support Islam through their Dhimmi taxes and are willing to accept what amounts to a third- or fourth-class servile existence, always subject to pogroms, false accusations and ill treatment. Dhimmis always live in fear.1
45. #23 Sean Greene
BEN JABO ,   ISRAEL   (12.29.10)
The subject is "Dating", not conversion, which is quite another matter I know it's hard, try staying on topic, which is difficult enough in itself I don't know of many instances where an Arab girl has dated a Jewish male with the permission of her family Though I do know of several that have strayed from the family values and wound up dead because of it In particular, the was an instance where the mother held her daughter and cut the poor girls throat because she had dishonored the family Ask, I'll send you the link, so you can see for yourself
46. At first I thought the article...
Aharon White ,   New Jersey, USA   (12.29.10)
was about the Jewish haredim in Lakewood. Amazing how some groups are exactly the same.
47. Dutchy #24
Steve   (12.29.10)
The "reasoning" you speak of is in the Bible. The same Bible that has within it the Ten Commandments. It's not about painting all of any people with a big brush. Jews are supposed to marry Jews. That's all. That is not to say that Jews are not marrying outside our faith. They are by the thousands, but this is not what Moses commanded at the mouth of God. If you are going to call your Maker a racist, then that's another matter. Your quarrel is not with the Jewish people. Your quarrel is with your Maker.
48. Nuff Said
pini ,   usrael   (12.29.10)
Arab families kill the women in the family who date outside islam. Kill. They kill them. When one of the women in an islamic family date a non muslim they kill them. Kill. Nuff Said.
49. how do you perfectly control the masses?
pini ,   usrael   (12.29.10)
You allow them to assimilate to the point where there is no inidivual.
50. to #9: I have no problem marrying a Jewish woman
Rami of Nazareth ,   Israel   (12.29.10)
and I have no problem if my sister marries one. Religion should not be the deciding factor. Marriage is based on love, mutual respect and understanding the other.
51. #10: Jews in israel are far from assimilation..!!
Rami of Nazareth ,   Israel   (12.29.10)
your argument is not valid, just an excuse to justify racisim. Besides, my sister can marry any man she wishes regardless of religion...
52. I thought love was most important in a marrage but maybe not
Bloodyscot ,   Dallas, Texas   (12.29.10)
These leaders of religion, both Muslim and Jewish seem to have their own agenda, which seems to be getting and keeping power, while love and happiness must take a back seat to it.
53. If a jewish woman marries a muslim
Yossef   (12.29.10)
her kids are jewish according to the law. This law has been established especially for these cases and for avoiding consanguinity, letting a door open for fresh blood in the tribe.
54. What is a shaygetz?
moragh   (12.29.10)
55. #20 Massaging an embarrasing truth
David   (12.29.10)
#20 Sorry but who told you that. In the Chumash it does not say that Yitro was formerly a Midianite priest. It does not say he had given up idol worship. It does not say that Zipporah never worshipped idols. The text is unambiguous. It is clear that Moses married outside the faith and nowhere does the Bible text say she converted. Your assertions of "fact" are nothing but rabbinical exegesis aimed at massaging this embarrasing truth.
56. Anti-miscegenation
David   (12.29.10)
If these Rabbis and their wives had been alive 80 years ago they presumably would have supported the Nuremberg laws. In September 1935 in Germany an anti-miscegenation law was enacted by the National Socialist government as part of the Nuremburg Laws. These laws forbade marriage and extra-marital sexual relations between persons of Jewish origin and persons of “German or related blood”. Such intercourse was termed Rassenschande (literally race-disgrace) and could be punished by imprisonment (usually followed by the deportation to a concentration camp) and even by death. Of course the Rabbis are not suggesting that Jews who have sex with non-Jews should be sent to prison - yet.
57. These Wise Women
Ben-Yehudah ,   Jerusalem, Israel   (12.29.10)
B"H חַכְמוֹת נָשִׁים, בָּנְתָה בֵיתָהּ; וְאִוֶּלֶת, בְּיָדֶיהָ תֶהֶרְסֶנּוּ. מִשְׁלֵי יד,א Every wise woman builds her house; but the foolish plucks it down with her hands. Proverbs 14:1 Just as Shifra and Pu'ah were rewarded with "houses" for saving the lives of newly born B'nei Yisra'el (Ex. 1:21), these rabbis' wives are working to maintain those houses. Whereas, any woman who has a blind eye or encourages such behavior is nothing less than plucking them down. EsserAgaroth.blogspot.com
58. Ridiculous
Jarda ,   Czech Republic   (12.29.10)
Seems to me that young Jewish males are a little "insufficient" as they need such support.
59. Sex has nothing to do with politics
Love Maker ,   Ramallah   (12.29.10)
Jewish Girls Love Arab Youngmen, as they know how to please them well, the secret is in sex itself, we had alot of sexual adventures with jewish women before, and they used to say : you arabs have a huge size and can stay longer and nobody can please the woman in the bed like an Arab sex gear. Let us enjoy and please your girls !! what's wrong in that ?? don't mix sex with politics.
60. Women staying away from Arab men
DT ,   TA Israel   (12.29.10)
On this one the Rabbi's are right and I am not Orthodox .
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