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Leftists: Probe against us 'McCarthyism'
Roni Sofer
Published: 05.01.11, 08:18
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1. If they are so transparent
Danny   (01.05.11)
they what is the problem with them doing what they claim they are already doing - ie revealing the source of their funding?
2. McCarthy was not investigated -it was the other way around
(01.05.11)
3. finally the government is waking up!!!!!
rachel ,   usa   (01.05.11)
4. If they have nothing to hide then why are they so upset?
David   (01.05.11)
5. And what then
Zev ,   Israel   (01.05.11)
Obviously the extreme left are being funded by those that agree to what they are doing. So what will be the next step once the Knesset outs them? When someone donates to an organization do they know what is done with their money?
6. Geese and ganders
Shai ,   IL   (01.05.11)
What's good for the goose should be good for the gander. Whether you're on the right or left, you should see the sense in that. The right response would be to: 1) Say it's Ok, and demand that all such organizations including those on the right undergo the same scrutiny. You don't hide something unless there's something to hide. 2) Finally the left needs recognize that if this is McCarthyism, then so it is as well to hold Israel to a higher standard than everyone else. Was McCarthy holding anybody to a higher standard? I don't think he was. These leftists are constantly calling Israel to task for things they are silent about when they are done more egregiously by others. It's odd that they don't see how this completely undermines their credibility. If they've got a problem with putting the focus on left-wing groups because that focus is unfair, then they'd be more respected as "patriots" if they saw that the focus on Israel is unfair. I did like that comment about examining Lieberman's funding - that was well played :-)
7. Liberals probing Right good; Right probing Liberals bad!
Paqid Yirmeyahu ,   Ra'anana, Israel   (01.05.11)
Liberals' worst nightmares... a level playing field and a mirror.
8. if the far left got nothing to hide than I don't see
ghostq   (01.05.11)
any problem of financial transparncy. that isn't which hunt in political orgs that weren't elected and got no elector civic power, unless foriegn entity is very much involved in here, which is not democratic since in democracy the leaders and political map suppose to represent the civilians, and not outside forces of the state.
9. Kirshenbaum, a true patriot.
Eran ,   Singapore   (01.05.11)
10. Pathetic
Hans ,   Belgium   (01.05.11)
"They say;"Some people say we disturb the soldiers, but the commanders are actually happy (with what we do)," Hannah says." So pathetic- full of BS.
11. I'd place my money on Saudi Arabia and European Muslims.
Omri ,   Israel   (01.05.11)
12. Does George Soros have a role in any of these organizations?
Elhrac ,   USA   (01.05.11)
13. McCarthyism?
Gill ,   Australia   (01.05.11)
Sure is and a alot like the way the Chinese Communist Party handle dissent too ( you know - blaming all dissent as a "western plot to bring China down" I am happy & proud to give funding to organisations like B'tselem I am a South African living in Australia and have many friends I grew up with now living in Israel. No I am not a Muslim in fact I am a Buddhist & a supporter of Tibet. Used to be a defender of anything Israel did but have opened my eyes and at last seen the politics in Israel as so similar to Apartheid that I can no longer ignore it .So now I and others ( as many as I can garner) will support these groups that put the truth out instead of the so called hasbara & people like Mark Regev. The truth hurts Israel - it really does - and for those questioning the legitimacy of these groups - the SA government treated left wing anti-apartheid groups with the same disdain why? because they told the world what was really going on in South Africa - and they regularly questioned what was happening to black people in South Africa.
14. funding sources
bennie ,   w. galil   (01.05.11)
I support this investigation. Our enemies have enough brains to understand that undermining Israel's cohesion and legitimacy is powerful weapon. Never has there been such a disparity between relative political strength (on the left) and ability to mass propagandize. The left has created an illusion of power that only open hearing and, ultimately, an election, can dispel.
15. #2
Df ,   Beer Sheva, Israel   (01.05.11)
McCarthy's actions were eventually looked at critically by the Senate of the U.S. and in December 1954 he was censured by the Senate by a vote of 67 to 22.
16. equivalencies
Ellen ,   Israel/USA   (01.05.11)
"Hannah ... unlike her soldier compatriots, is completely unarmed." She doesn't need to be, they are and even if she is interfering in their work they will still protect her. re: the officer who welcomes her, unfortunately we know there are officers in the IDF who are super lefties too. They would like to see Israel destroyed! They are the ones who lied after Cast Lead and they are the ones who lie now!
17. Stop New Israel Fund!
Sheikh Yahudi ,   Damascus, Israel   (01.05.11)
All these New Israel Fund supported groups have done grave damage to the cause of human rights by pursuing an obvious political agenda. Any attempt to scrutinize them is misconstrued as an attack on human rights. They must be thoroughly investigated and any laws allowing them to operate with impunity must be repealed. All people of conscience should be opposed to this blatant abuse of the human rights cause.
18. The Left shouldn't worry if they are genuinely for HR only
The Doc ,   Haifa, Israel   (01.05.11)
...as it has already transpired however, their funding cones from some of the worst existential enemies of Israel. The fact that they are so madly against this kind of probe, hiding behind work slogans, it's a sign that there is fire where is smoke. In a free democracy, freedom of information and transparency is not a one-way street. The left is also expected to abide to the same rules it so violently presses to apply on their opponents. If the left opposes the probe, they will be proving beyond any doubt that their struggle for equality and human rights is only a thin and malicious veil, hiding destructive ulterior motives. Let's see really, how much truth is there behind their "Liberte, Equalite, Fraternite"!
19. if it also applies to the right then its a good idea
zionist forever   (01.05.11)
Lots of these groups turn out to be at least partially funded by people who have a grudge of some kind against Israel. If these rules apply to right wing & left wing groups alike then the left cannot claim discrimination and say its illegal etc. The public have a right to know where these people are coming from because their agenda is to push poitcal policy. In a era of Wiki-Leaks & internet its time we started having some openness into financing of lobby groups and politicians.
20. McCarthysm
Df ,   Beer Sheva, Israel   (01.05.11)
There are differences between McCarthysm and what MK Kirshenbaum is proposing. The problem with people nowadays is that as soon as someone questions your position or, as in this case, they are labeled. This time it is McCarthysm. In other cases, also involving the IDF, the term is Nazi. And this without understanding what the real meaning of these words are. McCarthysm, as practiced by Senator McCarthy was accusing and labeling people as Communists, disloyal, etc. without proof. What MK Kirshenbaum is doing is looking at sources of funding to determine IF there is funding from anti-Israel groups, especially those outside of Israel. So far I have not seen her make an accusation that this is happening. A bit different than McCarthysm
21. Yesh Din?
Krzys ,   Warsaw, Poland   (01.05.11)
retired Israeli generals sit in the board of Yesh Din. Did the far right get crazy? What about demanding to disclose the sources of foreign funding of settler organizations? Nobody asks?
22. At long last!!!
David   (01.05.11)
It is high time to stop tolerating constant undermining of Israel by by the rabid Western leftists who want to see Israel destroyed.
23. RADICAL ATHEIST LEFTISTS get money from the enemies of
Jason   (01.05.11)
Israel!
24. #13 What a load of cr@p "Gill". Your eyes are wide shut!
(01.05.11)
Let's hope that a kind of WikyLeft will expose the many rapes of truth and manipulations that you and your friends have been exposed to and passed along to other clueless useful imbeciles. You know squat about what is going on in Israel any more than you know what is been happening in your pathetic corner of the world. Get lost and wake us up when you get a brain.
25. libierman is gettting crasy.
david azoulay ,   france   (01.05.11)
fashism is closer and closer
26. Probe against the Left, the Sitra Achra, the Satan Samael
(01.05.11)
It’s the Leftists, the Satan, the Destroyers of Israel and the rest of the world.
27. # 13
Jules   (01.05.11)
Gill, have you considered retrieving some information about "liberalized" SA ? Some data about crime rates, AIDS statistics, etc. ? You may find huge differences between SA, on one hand, and Israel (or Australia) on the other hand.
28. ''mccarthyism'' against left
moron ,   galut   (01.05.11)
about time--political correctness is the mccarthyism of the left and it is everywhere --as leftists are loyal to international,not to their country and as such threaten national interests without any compunction and often belong in jail or the gulag for it
29. Why are investigations a one way street?
(01.05.11)
Why it is always the Left investigating the others, while whever anybody dares to call for an investigation of the Left - ANY kind of investigation, there is an instant hysterical chorus from the Left calling the "perpetrator" names, labeling them as nazis, racists or worse? This is a known pattern for stiffling liberties and transparency. This quite against Human Rights, freedom and equality - the very values that the Left supposedly protects. What is the Left so afraid of? What do they think that such an investigation will expose? Are they afraid that THEY THEMSELVES will discover that all along, they've been only stupid puppets, manipulated by the bloodthirsty hands of Muslim dictators, anarchists and destruction-mongers? Are they afraid to discover that they've been messenger of lies and disinformation, of blood libels and calls for a new genocide against the Jewish people? Are they afraid that everybody will discover an inconvenient truth? Are they afraid that they will not bear the image they see in the mirror?
30. #21 The right has been always the object of investigation!
(01.05.11)
That's the whole point! Nobody asked for an investigation of the Left until now - it's been always the other way around! Get your facts straight before posting in foreign talkbacks!
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