these settlers should be left to their own devices, without any arms whatsoever, on their own, no support. only then will they be equal to the Palestinians they call sons of b*s. Perhaps then they will finally leave

The next time a settler is attacked we should not hold Hamas responsible because killing Israelis is what they exist for. Instead we will hold the IDF responsible as they are there to protect Israelis but instead they are intentionally stopping responsible Israelis with from defending their families. It seems we are now spending billions of dollars of taxpayer money to create an army whose job it is to endanger the lives of Israelis.

are. They view their rabbis as the ultimate authority and won't hesitate pointing those guns at the IDF when they ordered to vacate the area. Kapish??

They can't be deported, they're home where they belong Instead of the settlers having to defend themselves with mere small arms, the IDF will now do it with bigger stuff, including F-16's

To Marcella, 16. "5) Israel begins to withdraw police and IDF from Judea and Samaria. Eastern Jerusalem is all but in the hands of the PA already." You had a nightmare consequence of a fermented food, sit and wait, stop you're going to get tired very quickly, and you can go varicose veins in the legs. ISRAEL NEVER, NEVER, DELIVERY JERUSALEM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

In the event of a deadly situation or circumstance of threat to live, the hated "settler" can simply hold up crossed fingers, blow a whistle and call a halt to the threatening event until the appropriate authorities, either police or military with the appropriate jurisdiction may be found, whereupon the proper means of force may be delivered, thereupon saving all who may feel threatened. Remember when seconds count; the authorities are only minutes away.

The ersatz "Palestinians" have proven time and time again that they are a belligerent, violent, terrorist lot. It is truly reprehensible that the IDF would take away from Jewish Israelis the right to defend themselves against Arab aggression in Medinat Israel.

No Jew will be deported from Judea and Samaria. The ersatz "Palestinians," on the other hand, Jordanian citizens all, will be repatriated to Jordan. Start packing, chica.

You list 13 major political developments, each of Earth-shaking proportions, supposedly happening in sequence. Not even Step 1) has happened yet. No need to play Chicken Little, flapping her wings in a frenzy and clucking about the sky falling. I can tell you what is certain though. If Israel does not make a genuine gesture to prove its acceptance of the two state solution, the world is going to start slapping sanctions on it, Israel is going to be cut off, and all that wealth and prosperity that suddenly sprouted up in the last decade... poof, gone. Possibly the same with American military aid, which would be a near death sentence for Israel's long-term survival. It's time to compromise while Israel still holds bargaining chips, soon the only options available to it will be far less advantageous. Israel, legitimize your borders once and for all, seal in your allies, lock in your profits, and then if the Arabs still won't make peace, the world will be 100X more sympathetic when you hit back. Don't listen to child-beaters like Lieberman (convicted in 2001), use your noggins for once.

they will leave on their own, or become citizens of Palestine.

You must have read about it, or maybe even witnessed it. Israel was admired, even idolized, and at the very least respected. Little David had defeated Goliath once again. Time passed. - Israel failed to annex the land setting itself up for a situation that would be exploited to the max by its enemies. - Israel gave up Temple Mount - where Jews had vowed to rebuild for 2000 years. Gone. Gone into the hands of the vanquished. - Israel gave up the Sinai and its oil. A huge amount of land. Jews were expelled from their settlements to become refugees in their own land. All for a piece of paper that will be sooner or later abrogated by Egypt and Jordan. - Israel submitted to the suicidal Oslo Accords, setting up a framework for never ending strife with the Arabs and their emboldened leadership. - Israel withdrew from Gaza. More expulsions of Jews from their own land. Many expellees are still waiting, more than five years later, for permanent housing. Their lives and livelihoods destroyed. By their own government. - Israel has informally withdrawn from eastern Jerusalem. Israeli police does not even answer calls from Jews who are attacked in that area. They are on their own. - The country is being flooded by non-Jewish refugees and the government is running around in circles unable to figure out what to do with them. Over 300,000 and counting .... No one dares to hand over the problem to the UNHCR. It would be too easy. - The formerly respected state of Israel is today the punching bag for every tyrannical and backward state in the world - all members of the UN Social Club, and proud members of the Human Rights Council. - Those who perpetrated the Holocaust or collaborated with it in one way or another, by shutting their doors to desperate European Jews (USA and many others), or as Britain did, by banning their return to the land of their ancestors, are today arrogantly dictating Israel to partition its land once again and to set policies leading to its eventual destruction. And watching every move by IDF and Israeli police so that those who attack Jews don't get hurt. - The once proud IDF is now busy not in combat training but studying legal and procedural manuals on how to shoot without hurting anyone. Their legal teams are now as numerous as their officer corps. The IDF has been neutered, demoralized, rendered ineffective. Bound to suffer huge number of casualties in any future war. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Is anyone still clinging to the fantasy that Israel is heading anywhere else except its own destruction? The leaderSHEEP continues to bow to dictates by morally corrupt superpowers, or just doing nothing in face of the upcoming declaration of independence by the PA - just another way of surrendering the land. - The PA "Special Forces" are being armed and trained by the USA. But the settlers are being deprived of even a pistol to defend their families. - The greatest loss of all is one of MORALITY by the political leadersheep: By failing to protect the integrity of the land and the lives of the Jews who live in it. By depriving citizens of the dignity of defending themselves against terror. By abandoning both land and citizens to their fate.

who are you that you dare threaten & dictate to a sovereign nation what they should or shouldn't do.? Does Israel tell Canada what they must do? or any other country? The info that you receive across the globe is not at all what is actually happening here. And #16...has no crystal ball, only a history of what has happened before to look at and learn from...You should do the same, mr dude.

victims are unarmed, then the same security officials and officers should be charged with murder and aiding terrorism. The government of Israel does not want Jews armed. There are many legal and illegal weapons held by the arabs in both Israel and the liberated territories. A Jew with a legal gun permit cannot even buy a box of 50 cartridges. However a number of times I had arabs offer to sell me 9 mm shells. They can have an arsenal in their houses as well as having hunting rifles. The police know about this and do nothing. The min of interior just wants guns out of the hands of Jews only. All veterans of the I.D.F. should have a weapon permit for both a handgun and an automatic rifle. Self defense should be the right of the citizen who served in the defense forces and knows how to use weapons. If the vet cannot have a weapon, then there should be no weapons for the bodyguards and security guards of the politicians or government offices. Make sure that all of us are equal and either are protected equally or not all.

All Rightous innocent People - Societys - Nations, has a Divine Right as such, to Armed Selfdefence. This Divine Right, is Collected in and to the State, as a Duty. The State is the Divine Servant, to the Individual - Society - Nation, in this matter. It is this Divine Right in the Individual-Society-Nation, which Justifies the State to Bear Arms, and as a duty. It is not the other way around. The State has no Authority given it by GOD, to Monopolise the Matter, and Disarm its Citicens. When false Ideologies, take over the state by Democracy, then this Offense can take Place though. In such a False Ideological Society The States-servants mean/say - Only we has the right to defend You With Arms, not You Yourself. Orao. Srbia.

feel like you have a power for speaking truthfully. I hope Israel changes to a proud Israel.

A viewpoint from within the Palestinian camp: THIS IS stupid, dangerous, smug, etc. etc. etc. Will this commander face trial and imprisonment should a settlor be murdered.? Doesn't he realize that a disarmed Israeli settler is a prime target?REMEMBER THE PAST TO SEE THE FUTURE!!!

The army is asking for the return of arms provided to the zealots, or settlers, or whatever term is appropriate - they are not being left unarmed. Doubtless the Army recognizes the cavalier and terrorist propensity of many in their ranks and seeks to detach itself from further belligerent acts that may take take place with arms provided by the State of Israel. The Army has made a moral decision. Who could possibly question that?

we heard it enough from you except you are living in a world of your own, get a grip.

into a pool of sharks than your maorality is both hypocritical, since you wouldnt want that done to you....and its also anti semitic, since you want that done to jews. 2 months ago 4 Jews were murdered by your friends. a gun was taken away from one of the murdered only weeks before. He and his 8 month pregnant wife were shot at point blank range. You are not moral, you are not honest with your self either.

Iti is lovely to read a little pontification from US about how the "ersatz Palstinians" should be repatriated to Jordan. Whenever I read these sort of statements, I realise that there will never be peace in the Middle East, as long as Palinesque gun-toting brainless mamas, most probabl with apartments ont he Upper West Side, sit in their armchairs and call for population transfers. To refer to the Palestinians as 'ersatz' is ahistorical nonsense and has some of those beautiful Stalinist overtones that only Beria and perhaps a few other monsters supported. Any slight grasp of history (i.e. the Crimean Tartars) will understand that the mass transfer of population is a time bomb. The time bomb of the 1948 expulsions is still quietly festering towards an explosion. A call to remove hundreds of thousands is a sentiment which has no place in a civilised society, and the motivation for a call for expulsion is no more than filthy racism of a type which should have died out more than 60 years ago. However, sometimes rats survive the venom that they ingest and then broadcast it to the world thinking that it is somehow a manifestation of human logic. Absolutely disgusting.

A call to deport the settlers from Hebron is pure logic. Most Israelis I have met tell me that the Hebron settlers are hell bent on being the most rabid, nasty, venomous racists - something they seem to have learned in Brooklyn. Over the years we have all seen vidoes and read reports of the foul behaviour of the racist settlers, teaching their children no more than hatred and contempt for the Palestinians, and, as I believe Hanan Ashrawi once said, the Hebron settlers are not the 'nicest section of the Israeli population'. That little bunch of gun-toting, hate-spewing, racist-squawking nonentities who live in stolen houses and swagger through the streets waving their automatic guns really should go to a much nicer place - i.e. a shoping mall in Arizona where their demented hatred and blood lust is much more in tune with the local politics.

When you say that people have a divine right to armed self-defence, do you mean in the same way that Serbian individuals fished their weapons out from under their beds and went on a killing rampage in Croatia, Bosnia and Kosovo? Were the Tigers also simply executing their divine right when whey went around Bosnia committing massacres of civilians for nothing more than a coked-up sense of sport and fun? Your note actually services quite a good purpose in aligning the monstrous and murderous activities of the Serbian marauding gangs of killers with the marauding gangs of Hebron primitives. They both think they are living among godless Muslims and that they are doing god's work. Your message simply shows that Serbian fascism has managed to survive the bombing by Nato and the change of government from the Milosevic-led party of ethnic cleansing, and that the poison of ethnic hatred has unfortunately not been completely eradicated from the Serbian body politic. Have you considered moving to live with those lovely settlers in Hebron? They, like the militant morons who carried out so many killings in the name of Greater Serbia, are doomed. Their ideology is that of vermin.

Ah an educated arab living in London who has the gift of the gab & a mouth like a sewer.

Wow. The eloquence of your response overwhelms me. I use my 'mouth like a sewer' when I am writing to people who live in ditto.

this is not up to you. an eventually decision to be made is up to other people. first look at your own ersatz/substitude talkbacks in ynetnews.com and success with it! mazzeltov.

is not a sewer.Use your sewer mouth when talking and writing about mecca and medina!Or londonistan.

Cant contradict or negatet the message - Attack the Messenger. Typical Muslims. Orao.