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Remand of Bosnia massacre suspect extended
Aviad Glickman
Published: 19.01.11, 12:00
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1. Being a Bus drive ...............served as a bus driver...
Benjamin ,   Singapore   (01.19.11)
would not mean anything criminal unless he has suffecient knowledge that he was driving them to death ! In most cases in the past records, it is proven beyond resonable doubt that drivers are ofteh misdirected by the ACTUAL GENOCIDE PLANNING REGIM. My honest opinion is sounds like MALLICIOUS PROSECUTION ! BOsnian authorities will end up in SHAME ! Live him alone , please !
2. His only mistake is that
tejas ,   India   (01.19.11)
he immigrated to Israel. He should have gone to Serbia. There is rivalry in Israeli bureraucrats to present themselves as human right champions. This entire drama is so sick.
3. #1 dont be a fool.
jj   (01.19.11)
completely mistaken ben. read any of the previous judgments on this. erdemovic, popovic et al, krstic, blagojevic. the plan was well hatched at this stage of the executions and lots of opportunistic/planned killings had happened already around the srebrenica enclave. this wasnt like an egged bus that was just on its normal route and lo and behold there happened to be a few muslims at the side of the road so he picked them up. the bus had been acquired specially by the army for these purposes. also, think about numbers - 1000 men killed at branjevo. a bus holds 50-ish people. if he didnt know that he was driving the first 50 to their deaths, there may be a small chance (dont you think) that he might have figured out after they were killed exactly what was gonig to happpen to the next group and the next group and the next group and the next group etc. he is at least under reasonable suspicion of aiding and abetting genocide.
4. it was NOT a genocide it was a war and muslims killed too
(01.19.11)
5. The rule is
benjamin ,   singapore   (01.19.11)
I rather, release 1000 convicts than convicting one innocent man. Where there is element of doubt how ever minor or trivial, the benefit of the doubt be given to the accused. this is the cardinal judicial rule established by the Hebrews and i carry them to my heart. Ther was no such thing as the egg bus being purchased by the ARM - NONSENSE ! I always believe in getting the head of the crime not the small runners who most of the time are manipulated by the Genocide Regim Heads. I must caution, that we should not fall for the fact of religious manipulative thoughts- " o the muslims were murdered "...that would mean justice is perverted by a biasness...... this is a case clearly motivated by the fact that he is an Israeli by his citizenship and married to a jewish girl and probably he is a convert...so one must not let the anti- semitism sentiments rob this man of his freedom. THE COURT MUST BE CAUTIOUS AND FAIR ! #3 thanks man ;-) #2 thanks , you make sense to me :-)
6. #5
jj   (01.19.11)
if you can say that this is man is facing extradition because of anti-semitism despite the evidence presented against him coupled with his admission that he was driving the buses, then shame on you. train drivers in europe in the 40s just thought that they were transporting jews from one city to another, right? no guilt on them at all... yeah, right. the man is accused of working for 10 hours in a day, shipping men and boys to their deaths. its clear you didnt even read the previous comment, or you are choosing to ignore the facts. if you say that this man is only accused as a result of anti-semitism, then the word truly is as hollow as it is said to be these days and that is thanks to ignorant people like you.
7. So much HOT AIR in these talkbacks...
Riki ,   Tal Aviv   (01.19.11)
Benjamin and Tejas already figured out what is going on in this complicated and disturbing case. Let the evidence show what it shows. If he was complicit in the murdering of civilians based on their ethnicity, then yes, that was genocide. If not, then it wasn't. But how we just can sit here in our armchairs and decide what is going on here is just silly. Yes, he married and Jew and moved to Israel. So what? Does that mean he is innocent? Or guilty? It means nothing. Let the facts speak for themselves. If he meets the criteria for extridition under our extradition law, then he will be extradited.
8. #5. I'm not sure you know what "fair" means...
Persian CAT   (01.19.11)
you're talking from both sides of your mouth, effendi. First, you bring in your own "anti- semitism" prejudice into this, then you call for fairness! Seems like you're either utterly foolish or simply have no clue, or both ;<)
9. Now, it is Greece's turn to judge Greek volunteers
Dan   (01.19.11)
Many Greeks volunteered in genocide against Bosniaks during the war. But, instead of investigating those war criminals, Greece investigated and silenced Greek journalists who wrote about those Greek war criminals. Will Greece ever take an action to face its ugly contribution to genocide? Will Greece ever judge and extradite those Greek volunteers?
10. Stupid Country
Phoenix ,   Israel   (01.19.11)
Why, why, why do we bring these non jews to our land??? It's not just gentiles but the worse of the gentiles that enter the land of the jews as if was theirs. The law of return must be changed!!!!! We must stop all these intruders that have no connection what so ever with the jewish people to enter our land. We already brought Nazis and now this War Criminal racist beast.
11. # 6
Benjamin ,   singapore   (01.19.11)
He testimoney is his admission that he drove the bus..THAT IS ALL ! There is nothing GUILTY in terms of the content and meaning of his statement of admisssion that dosent amount to a confession of crime or guilt . It is clear you hate him because he is an israeli ! Nothing in this world is fair, amn made justice is man made not G-d made. Justice is blind, you need not convict him by your prejudices. The point is playing the helm of the boat is not like merely playing tiller or wheel of the boat. You dont controll the judicial mind with alayman understanding. Law is double edge sword. It cut both ways. What if he was under duress while he was forced- there i see a resonable doubt ! scold me if you must , i rather free 1000, criminals than convicting or exposing an innocent man base on evidence no matter how cogent it may seem- hearsay i dont take but throw out any case- by judicial discretion.. I dont take note of nimby evidence. I put heavy weight in terms of burden of prove..I dont follow ninepins. Nothing is fair, we merely try to strike a balance on the merits of facts and law. but with a high degree of evidence. He is saying he hasn't eaten for 40 hrs, so I am alarmed over the whole investigation and detention. A man in such a state cannot give evidence. The court should take note of the 40 hrs state of physical, pschological and mental state. Admission are not confessions and not all confession are admissison of guilt ! Not all evidence are evidence admissible ! The point si no need for forther remand not an order for extardition. ther are 8 grounds to set aside the application of the prosecution under Israel Law. If the court is observent who ever the good judge he/she will know. This not lay talk but a matter of justice under international law and conflicts of law , not forgetting the War Crime Tribunal unlike any ordinary crime. The norms are totally diffrent in terms of rules and procedure and its enforcement, trail and sentencing or even mitigation ! Most judicail opinion at the tribunal are outvoted. Law Lords are not War Lords to understand Crime and Genocides. Let not overlap with indulgence on Fairness carried away by ow ! There is adiffrence between a piccolo and a flute, we jews know music of the mind and the heart and the pain of persecution through out the ages ! There some repute in that remand order but seems rickety in my opinion ! I am sorry no intention to hurt anyones feelings. ben singapore
12. I hope he will have fair trial here in Bosnia
Husein Avdovic ,   Sarajevo, BOSNIA   (01.19.11)
And good treatment in KPD ZENICA jail from among prisoners
13. Srebrebica !.
Orao. ,   Srbia.   (01.19.11)
As a Volunteer on the Bosnian-Serbian side, iI knew about this matter before it happened. It was deceided that those Muslims in Srebrenica, Guilty of Murdering Innocent Serbian Civilian -Men-Woman-children, the total inhabitants in 3 Serbian Villages, Villages totaly Destroyen by those Muslims, should be Sentensed to and punished by Death. The International court of Justice in the Hague, regarding the Srebrenica case can for one, go to Hell. Orao.Srbia.
14. # 10 Read your comment once again.
tejas ,   India   (01.19.11)
Yes go ahead, stop the intruders, thats what I want. But you can't. And if you try the world will label you as a racist. This is called as political correctness and I am against it. And this man is nothing but a victim of political correctness and selective prosecution.
15. # 7.
tejas ,   India   (01.19.11)
I don't even want to know if he was involved in the genocide or not. Because I know the entire history of Balkan and who are the actual victims there. Nazis persecuted only Serbians in the Balkan region. They were always the targets of Albanian gangs, Croats and Bosnians. Even the NATO, UN targeted Serbia without any reason. . Jewish people are somehow managed to live in their incient homeland but Serbians have to watch their incient homeland being run their enemies. Only Serbian person can understand agony behind it. I feel really sad about the indifference of so called socialists towards the suffering of Serbians.
16. @ Benjamin from Singapore
Dino Domingo ,   Vancouver, Canada   (01.19.11)
you must be mentally retarded or plain ignorant! do you have any idea of what happened in Srebrenica...the hatred that went on between the Serbs, Muslims and Croats? the pure 100% intention to destroy the enemy...Serb soldiers raped women so they would have a Serb child...many women were disgraced and left now wanting the child that was from the devil! you have no idea about just how deep the hatred was in that war...while some were being exterminated the party doing the killing was drinking sljivovica and having a party feeling a great sense of accomplishment! this MF drove people to their deaths...if this was a person driving Jews to their deaths what would you be saying... what about all the ex SS people that are still being hunted today? are they innocent? do you say the same things about them as you do about this Serb (Chetnik) who took part in exterminating many innocent men and boys? thats exactly what ahppened here...these men and boys were exterminated...whats the difference from and over and a firing squad? are Jews more important than these people? you are an ignorant idiot!
17. tejas
Dino Domingo ,   Vancouver, Canada   (01.19.11)
you are confused! you have no idea what you are talking about...you are mixing in chetniks with the communist partisans...where did you read the serbs were targets...where did you read Serbians have to watch their incient homeland being run their enemies...you are completely misinformed and your comments are disgraceful!
18. Extradite him AFTER the turks admit their genocide.
Bunnie Meyer ,   Los Angeles, CA USA   (01.19.11)
19. Bunnie
Dino Domingo ,   Vancouver, Canada   (01.19.11)
what does this have to do with Turkey? you are way off on your comment...I am totally against most of Islam but in this case know exactly that most of these people were innocent. Kids? should kids be targeted? are you suggesting as long as they are Muslim we should think they deserve their death?
20. #18 do sit down he's not Jewish & wasn't Israeli....
(01.19.11)
at the time he committed his "alledged" war crimes...so why are you defending him?
21. Nr 17.
Orao. ,   Srbia.   (01.19.11)
you are confused! you have no idea what you are talking about...you are mixing in chetniks with the communist partisans...where did you read the serbs were targets...where did you read Serbians have to watch their incient homeland being run their enemies...you are completely misinformed and your comments are disgraceful! Dino Domingo , Vancouver, Canada (01.19.11) Comment - What kind of an ignorant fool are yourself. You seems to know nothing about thr Nationalist Serbians - The Chetniks, and, the Communist Partisans under the rule of the Croatian Communist Tito, comming from Bosnia invading and taking over Serbia with the help of the Russians Al Chetniks surendering to Tito and his partisans was ececuted. A remnant of them escaped nothwards in Yugoslavia, not letting themselved be Unarmed, they where Promised escape to the West by the Western Allies, and boarded ships in the northern Adria. and was not unarmed untill they reached Canada. The serbians living in Canada today, are either Chetniks or their Offspring. Ask them and dont write a lot of Shit. Orao.Serbia...
22. Bosnia is not turkey, you idiot
Steve ,   USA   (01.19.11)
And why doesn't Israel recognize the Armenian genocide, it was the ottoman empire that did that not present day turkey
23. hej cedo!
Dino Domingo ,   Vancouver, Canada   (01.19.11)
what are you talking about cedo? what did i say that wasnt true? i simply told the other retard he doesnt know what he's talking about...srbija was never attacked by croatia or bosna so what is he talking about...in fact it was the serbs who attacks croatia, slovenia and bosna! so koj ti je kurac!
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