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'I felt weight of Jewish history on my shoulders'
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Published: 28.01.11, 14:15
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1. Fascinating story, of course it...
Mark from Georgia ,   USA   (01.28.11)
Will be denied by the Arabs, because they never really wanted peace but the destruction of Israel. Had Abbas signed the map that day, we still don't know how it would have played out. After all half the Arab government (Hamas) has stated quite clearly, and recently, they will never accept Israel and will always seek it's destruction. As most reasonable people know, you can't have agreement if successive administrations won't honor it. Among the Arabs of Israel and in the disputed territories, both the government and population (Arab Street), are in an civil war. But Olmert's book will be a great read of history during his tenure, I look forward to it. Unlike the pseudo - historians among the Arabs who almost never seek the truth, but to develop a narrative (lie) to promote to the Western media. Then try to unite the left side of the populations (worldwide) with the hate groups into an unholy coalition. Fortunately so far they've been unsuccessful.
2. olmert and trust
alexi   (01.28.11)
winograd said that olmert was a military failure and out of depth. Ladoor indicted him for malfeasance in double billing charities some of them holocaust. You want a military failure who lador says is a crook whose one son avoided idf dutes, you want him to sell a deal to the PALS? look at the deal-no idf presence on jordan valley, shared jurisdiction with a group of 5of the holy basin as if that will solve problems, link across israel that would cut israel in 2 and where pals could launch rockets from 2 sides and they will and would do it. This deal is a lousy dea, like the gaza one which olmert sold to sharon. Ask the million israelis in the south what they think of israel when rockets were smashing their homes with no response, when olmert ran away from th e families of the dead from the hezbollah war, when this ogre released kuntar for dead bodies and when livni's twin olmert hesitated and worried and interfered with the idf counterattack in every way from preventing them from solving hezbollah. If you supported him, then you are dumbbells, asbolute dumbbells. The deal he offered abbas was a bad deal for israel and was self serving in his hope to avoid indictment.
3. so sad
Eli ,   Haifa   (01.28.11)
This is the saddest thing I've ever heard. We were so close. Probably won't get an opportunity like that for another dozen years or so. How many people have to die needlessly. Waste.
4. Who lies more Olmert or Peres?
Yosi ,   Gilo-Jerusalem   (01.28.11)
Historic opportunity? what hogwash! We were desperate to get rid of him before he did any more damage. So now, we went from one liar to the next. What? Bibi thinks he has history on his shoulders too? So that's why he's also trying to sell the whole farm? Treacherous, the whole lot of these dregs that sell their soul to the USA.
5. The Muslim-Arab couldn't possibly sing, as Arafat before him
Jehudah Ben-Israel ,   Qatzrin, Israel   (01.28.11)
and numerous Muslim-Arab leaders, local and regional. The reason: Signing means an acceptance of Israel's RIGHT to be, to exist as the nation-state of the Jewish people. And since the Muslim-Arabs refuse to accept the Jewish people's right to exercise the universally accepted right of all peoples, including that of the Jewish people of course, to national self-determination and independence on ANY parcel of land between the River and the Sea, the Muslim-Arab "partner" for peace couldn't bring himself to sign a peace agreement that "violates" the thrust of the Muslim-Arabs' conflict with Israel.
6. I would rather my unborn children live under "occupation"...
Salma ,   Palestine   (01.28.11)
7. livni and peace talks
marcel   (01.28.11)
palestine papers show livni working under olmert's leadership discussing with ereckat that settlement cannot be under arab rule as the arabs will kill them the next day. when asked in an interview why she would cut a deal if the next day the arabs will kill israel settlers or visitors, she says the middle east is a harsh neighbourhood and brotherly love will not plop down from heaven. When furthur asked why would you give up strategic lands if the people across the table are going to kill you after the deal is signed, she had a blank look on her face and had nothing to say. Israel, this is the imbecile who is representing you in negotiations?? First you have the man of fear running for peace olmert. Next you have the woman who now has fear for her sons, so is willing to sign a deal with arabs who will kill israelis the next day after the deal is signed. These are twin cowards. Thank God that they are no longer in power. Do not trust good intentions or flowery words of peace. The deal has to be security based and verifiable and enforceable in case hamas takes over the west bank, otherwise no deal period.
8. What a waste
Ted   (01.28.11)
Even if Olmert exaggerated his story, he did do more for the peace process than the current talk-and-show only government. The current one is busy fighting with his own people - right against left - and has not ability to unite anyone nor bring peace. Sad for Israelis and for Palestinians. Let's hope for a better government at the next election. People, choose wisely!
9. It is high time we pulled out the Alon Plan, clean it from
Jehudah Ben-Israel ,   Qatzrin, Israel   (01.28.11)
the dust that has gathered over it, and treat it like a precious classic work that must be studied and implemented at once. The Alon Plan was still the operating guide for the late Mr. Yitzhaq Rabin, the Prince of Peace as he was dubbed the world over. In his last speech in the Knesset, Rabin addressed himself to key points in the Plan without mentioning it by name. It is time we all studied it - at Google - and guide our ways with it.
10. sunshine and lollypops
Golan ,   Modiin   (01.28.11)
oh yes and there was no terror from 1993 to 2009.
11. who has the biggest ego
zionist forever   (01.28.11)
Olmert, Obama or Livni? Its a very hard to decide
12. #6 id rather
albert ,   new york   (01.28.11)
Your unborn children stay unborn rather than be subjected to the kind of brainwashing hatred palestinian mothers subject their children too.
13. # 8 Ted
alexi   (01.28.11)
So you think olmert did a good job and his plan was good. Fine-lets examine it. israel got rocketed massively in the south without response until cast lead, people in the south were paraylsed with fear and their lives made a living hell while olmert smoked cigars at lying erdogan's home in Ankara. hezbollah rained 200 rockets a day on Israel in 2006 killing 150 people and olmert blocked the idf from a massive attack from behind counter tactic because he was afraid of casualties. He returned live kuntar for dead bodies as he put no fear into hezbollah.He should have said kuntar would be executed if any harm came to idf captured soldiers. Then he goes ahead and offers right of return concessions which no israel even livni would approve of.This is the ultimate betrayal of israel which was there in the first place with no country of palestine ever. This is who you support, an utter failure and according tolador, an indicted cheap criminal according to lador. He is going to jail without a doubt and you can visit him there. Ask him to take out the napkin and wipe his nose with the concessions he offered which were only bad for israel. Well you can follow olmert and that is your right. Step right into the arab ovens, go right in,sign the deal, take back 100,000 arabs witht heir higher birth rate, ask saudi arabia and palestine for permission to pray on the holy mount, cry to the US that abbas is bringing guns in from jordan, complain to palestine leaders that they are permitting rockets to be fired from both sides of the link across israel which your buddy olmert said palestine had day to day control over. I have said this-olmert is a military failure and a shmuck. Its not only him. You live there-you are a shmuck and failure as well. Birds of a feather flock together.
14. close but not quite
SD ,   London   (01.28.11)
"We were very close, more than ever in the past, to compete a principle agreement " I've no doubt that this is true. However the map still wasn't good enough. It included E1 and Ariel on the Israeli side. Which means east jerusalem is hemmed in, Ramallah is cut off from bethlehem and the west bank is basically sliced in two. Close Ehud, but no cigar.
15. Felt the weight of Jewish History?
BJL ,   usa   (01.28.11)
And you were planning on giving away the land of your fore fathers to those who wish to turn it into Hamastan? If you truly felt the weight of Jewish History....you would have told him proudly...This is Jewish land and I recommend your people live in Palestine Jordan.
16. Jews without shoulders?
Lengualima ,   I   (01.28.11)
The egos of some politicians is higher than Everest, longer than the Andes, and deeper than the Marianas trenches. According to the statements of Mr. Olmert, he is only Jew who has shoulders.
17. Hypocrisy !.
Orao. ,   Srbia.   (01.28.11)
If this is true - "The next day they called and said that Abu Mazen had forgotten that they needed to be in Amman that day, and they asked to postpone the meeting by a week. I haven't met with Abu Mazen since then -The Palestinians are not serious about solving the conflict. Orao.Srbia.
18. now, this is scary shit: "on MY shoulders"??!! That sentence
tom ,   tel aviv   (01.28.11)
alone should give him 20 years sentence. These jokers truly think they are "Historical Figures" of biblical proportions. Cut them down to size. Damn , that is making me furious!!
19. The Pals sent someone who has trouble with maps
JS ,   USA   (01.28.11)
to a land dispute?
20. How can Olmert be so naive - abu mazen is terrorist
Lee ,   Manchester UK   (01.28.11)
representing an imagined people that never existed that wish to steal the Jewish peoples inheritance. They never did and never will seek peace with the Jews. I wish it wasn't so but it is. Olmert had to go.
21. *6 You are not fit to have any children.
Lee ,   Manchester UK   (01.28.11)
before they are out of nappies that you people just toss outside and leave there they'll be straddling bayonets and bombs.
22. 8-mile-wide-Israel ex PM an idiot who is now tasting the ove
Observer ,   Globe   (01.28.11)
overthrow of western arab governments, all very predictable when they are fed piles of anti semitic Islamist doctrines 24/7. abbas hasnt even power over ramallah. olmert=naive and brazen.
23. Palestine Papers
daz ,   uk   (01.28.11)
The Palestine Papers show weaknesses on both sides. Abbas betrayed his people and was ready to sell them out. Livni was too greedy to see a good deal when she had one. Nobody wins in this scenario.
24. Nr 17.
Orao. ,   Srbia.   (01.28.11)
Talkback nr 5 in the link. http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4018612,00.html There is no human solution to this conflict. To make Peace with the Palestinians is impossible, they will not make Peace untill they got what the want, the whole of Israel. Orao.Srbia.
25. ...and then came the shining stars, Bibi and Lieberman......
jonathann ,   London/ Israel   (01.28.11)
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