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Police: Sudanese men stabbed by Israeli gang
Yoav Zitun
Published: 12.02.11, 22:17
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1. Why do we blame the refugees?
C   (02.12.11)
I live near the old central bus station so I see lots of Sudanese and Eritreans walking around in groups. Israelis are paranoid and the fear is because they are black men. I have never seen any violence or intimidation from them- only towards them. Shame on us.
2. big surprise! our occupiers are also racist!
Marwan ,   Tel Aviv, Palestine   (02.12.11)
3. Israel has become a laboratory of racism and bigotry
Charles ,   US   (02.12.11)
of the worst kind.
4. To #2 Marwan
Phoenix ,   Israel   (02.12.11)
Occupiers Hahahaha! Are you serious? You live In Tel-Aviv, Jewish City with Hebrew Name. This is Historcaly the Land of the Jews. If there is somebody that do not belong is you!!! Self Called Paletinian, Palestine never existed!!! Here was the Kingdom of Israel under the Kings of Israel, David, Salomon and so many more. You live working from Jewish business from Jewish money and you still talk crap! Be thankful that we let you live in here, if not go to Gaza or Egypt. Israel is the Land of the Jewish People not of the Arabs not of the Africans.
5. No sympathy for the Sudanese!
manicdrummer ,   Madison, USA   (02.12.11)
If they want to come to Israel and act like thugs, incidents like this will happen. Jews want their homeland back and all non-Jewish residents should leave. If the Diaspora is going to become more hostile to Jews who have lived among them for centuries, why should Israel become a breeding ground for anti-Semites? That's the trade-off. Take it or leave it!
6. Israelis no better or worse than others
Adam Helberg ,   USA   (02.12.11)
Israel is one of the most heterogenous countries in the world, with people of different colors and ethnic backgrounds. They are not better than worse than many others, and certainly less racism than in Arab countries.
7. Welcome to the rascist state
Avi ,   Israel   (02.12.11)
Not surprising really when these so called Rabbis incite racial hatred amongst their flock of brainless morons who seem to have lost the basic human ability to think for themselves. These rabbis have blood on their hands.
8. nobody messes around with the chosen people
JL   (02.12.11)
after all...only the chosen have souls...the rest are just goyim created to elevate the chosen above all the rest
9. this is so embarresing
jack ,   is   (02.12.11)
what is the difference between this and the lowest people around? and it's all sanctioned by religious authority
10. I know..the knife just slipped....
Mikesailor ,   Miami, FL   (02.12.11)
And once more, the usual suspects, all Arab, will be picked up for questioning. And if a Jewish youth is arrested, the charges will be dropped for 'lack of evidence'. No surprise there, the script is so often used the dialogue can write itself. Look at how it has been set up. The Sudanese are first reported as 'refugees'. Then we are regaled by a story, anonymous of course, how the residents 'live in fear' of these Sudanese (shall we say black?) 'refugees. Then told about the rabbis instructions not to rent and the threats of community reprisals to Jews if they do rent to the Sudanese. As if all of this puff adds anything to the gist of the story which is two unarmed menb being beaten and stabbed by a Jewish gand. It would almost be funny if it weren't so sad.
11. I feel like I'm back in Chicago
Cameron ,   USA   (02.13.11)
12. Where is the police to catch these sudanes?
Keren ,   IL-BR   (02.13.11)
They should't be walking in Bnei Brak and in nowhere in Israel. The police should be catching them one by one and putting them in a plane and dropping them in parachutes back in Sudan. Why does not the police do that?? Why the police let tensions grow freely in Israel when it is clear what has to be done in order to cut the evil in its roots?
13. #2 - There's a "Tel Aviv" in upper Syria, too?
William ,   Israel   (02.13.11)
Because that's where the province of "Palestine" was located historically. I can see you're a failure as a history student, probably also why you're a failure as a sociology student as well. Remember - it was Arabs calling for a genocidal war against Jews BASED ON THEIR ETHNICITY that caused your problems in the first. Ooops!
14. #3 - hmm, I think the US and Arab lands still worse
William ,   Israel   (02.13.11)
In the US, racism is quite rampant and these type of hate-crimes do occur with an alarming amount. In the Arab lands, well let's face it...if you're not Arab, male, and Muslim, you're screwed. Hard to compare this attack in Israel (of which I am both outraged and ashamed) to the systematic annihilation of the B'ahis in Iran.
15. #7 - and Leftists incite racism, attacks against Jews
William ,   Israel   (02.13.11)
by Israeli Arabs and "Palestinians", but for that, you honor them and call it "fighting for democracy". Incitement is incitement, Avi. Like being a douchebag is being a douchebag, Avi in Tel Aviv.
16. #8 - Must be reading a Czarist handbook of Christianity
William ,   Israel   (02.13.11)
Nothing like that is written in any Jewish text. Only the jealous or hopelessly insecure would claim such things. Which are you?
17. #2 Marwan- Since you want to claim the land
BEN JABO ,   ISRAEL   (02.13.11)
you have to present proof of ownership, you can do it quite easily be answering a fewe simple questions If you won't or can't answer, it only proves that you're talking through your lice infested Kefiayah When was the country of Palestine founded and by whom? Where did the Palestinian people originate from? What were Palestine's borders? Who were its neighbours? What language did the Palestinians speak? What writing did they use? What manuscripts or records did they leave whether written or engraved? What was their religion? Where are their temples? What monuments attest to their existence? What was the name of their capital? Name its other major cities. What was their currency called? Are there any coins that attest to their economy? What was Palestine's form of government? Name its kings or rulers. What are their achievements?
18. #1 C: They are not simple refugees
BEN JABO ,   ISRAEL   (02.13.11)
The crime they committed was entering illegally I served alongside of Jews of various colors, color isn't the factor, it's the simple fact that they are illegal and our women are complaining that they are being molested Next fact, HIV AIDS IS PREVALENT IN AFRICA; they haven’t passed a medical exam One question, would you allow the women in your family to date them ?
19. Time for getting back to torah ...
Galut ,   Selah   (02.13.11)
as a foundation in Israel. a time for revival of moral foundations
20. Are Israelis surely better than the arabs?
Eshkol Hakofer   (02.13.11)
As suggested by Mr Adam Helberg from the US Having lived among arabs, i am no longer sure! If we consider ourselves as better educated, we should hold ourselves to a higher standard. Alas it isn't the case.
21. #2 Hypocrite par excellence
Tahl   (02.13.11)
The biggest racists in this planet are Arabs. In all the Arab-African countries, black people are treated like dirt. In Sudan they are massacred, while Egyptian soldiers use them for target practice. It's a very brittle glass house you're living in Marwan, better not throw stones. P.S. There is no such place as "Tel Aviv, Palestine", only Tel Aviv, Israel. If you are living there, you should be deported back to the PA.
22. many of them are not refugees but illegal infiltrators
Julie ,   Israel   (02.13.11)
1200 plus infiltrating our southern border each month. Israelis are fed up.
23. the illegals are criminals and must go right now
(02.13.11)
24. HEY #10!
Jenny ,   USA/ISRAEL   (02.13.11)
I'm from Miami as well!....where do you live? Aventura? Sunny Isles? South Beach? Most likely you live where WE all live....in one of those beautiful, upscale, predominently Jewish areas where there is not a sinlge black person living next to us. I have no choice due to my husband's job to currently live in Israel and let me tell you that what is going here is an absolute disaster and YES the Sudanese can be threatening and are not always innocent. I live here - I see and live how the population here has changed in the past 3 years and not for the better. I hope one day to be back in Miami.
25. To # 2
Fly on the wall ,   U.S.A.   (02.13.11)
So your admiting that your all racist then? Something tells me if this would of been young pal boys it wouldn't of even made the news,Or it would be called revolution. The far left is going to be the end of western values and society...Not Islam.....!
26. Chances are pretty good the attackers were not Jews
Israel   (02.13.11)
Tel Aviv does not lack criminal goyim - many came already with criminal records and lied, cheated and stole to get it. Add some alcohol (also not lacking), and this is what you get. Thank you un-Jewish Agency.
27. Response to Ben Jabo- Yes, I have no issue dating them
C ,   Tel Aviv, Israel   (02.13.11)
I do not "control" the women in my family. If my sister or brother married a Sudanese, I would judge him/her only by who he is as a person and not by status, religion, race, etc. like anyone else. Sorry, this is about bigotry- you use citizenship status and HIV status as an excuse for your bigotry. The fact that arsim "start with our women" never make headlines. When Sudanese do it, it is suddenly abuse.
28. @ 22
Sheik Rattle & Roll ,   USA   (02.13.11)
Every country has illegal immigrants. How many Israeli's violate American & European law every year to work in the malls selling "MUD" and cheap Chinese gadgets so they can make more money in the malls in 3 months than they could make in a year in Israel. I would make an easy guestimate at 10,000 or more and a fraction of that never returns to Israel. The problem is with enforcement in Israel. If the people see the problem so does the government because for the most part the people are the government. So when the people say enough is enough then you will see deportations on a mass scale. So get used to it unless you the people say enough is enough.
29. #5 - You Have it Totally Backwards
Doug ,   Rochester, USA   (02.13.11)
The thugs were the gang of Israelis that attacked them, not the Sudanese. they were just sitting in a park. Israel is unfortuantely becoming a breeding ground for racists, and the racists are the Israeli's, not the Sudenese or other refugees.
30. Find the assailants as soon as possible!!
Chaya ,   Tel Aviv   (02.13.11)
Before they attack others!! They should be thrown in prison for a very long time!!
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