It all evaporated the second I saw a sign held by the protesters, showing a star-of-David stamped on Gaddafi. As if to say, Israel and / or the Jews are behind Gaddafi's evilness. Of course this notion is truly absurd in every way, but fervent antisemitic hate never relied on reason. Anyone in the West who believes these fanatic haters would actually be capable of forming a true democracy must be suffering from an acute case of naivete and dumbness. But then again, the West never had shortage of such people.

As given here recently by our astute friend Chris Rettenmoser: Make a poll in each country, how many people support Osama Bin Laden and his Jihad against the Zionists and the West. 50% or more means failure of the test. How many of the new "democracies" would pass this test, do you believe?

and war itself a racket then those at the top of islamism, leading and guiding it, are making a lot of moolah, dosh and flooss. why has it taken me so long to work this out?

Jews are SEMITIC. Semites trace their history back to the MIDDLE EAST. Arabs are NOT the only ones who can claim Middle Eastern heritage. "Poland" and "Brooklyn" are as alien to many Israelis as they are to you. Consider the millions of Israelis who were born in Israel, speak Hebrew, and have never been to Brooklyn or Poland. Israel is their only home. You can't accept that fact, but that's YOUR problem. Today's Israelis are just as Middle Eastern as others in the region. Sending them places they don't belong would be a crime. You have proven the author's premise. Civilized conduct is not something you believe in.

so.......hmmmmm....how shall I put it.... Bright. This article is not only so verry correct, but logical and simplistic for any child to understand. If I am wrong let me know

1. Apparently this ‘fool’ proves Gobbo’s point. Alas, Gobbo has responded in a way that is sadly predictable, having failed to grasp the subtlety of my comments. I used the term ‘enemies’ precisely to draw the fire of those whose mindset is dominated by zero-sum interpretations. You know what I mean: either you love me or you hate me, either you are my friend or you are my enemy, and so on. Mature thinking would suggest more complex realities but perhaps it is easier to engage in Manichean analysis and at least you know you will have been on the ‘right’ side even if it all ends in disaster.

Point of Order: Most Israelis hail from Arabic (ie Muslim) countries after having been kicked out, with their possessions, homes, etc stolen from them. So if the people ZD is thinking about would actually "go back" to Poland or Brooklyn, there would still be a heck of a lot of Isrealis in Israel. The problem in the middle east IS radical islam, and people like ZD.

so.......hmmmm....how shall I put it.... mature. this article is not for Children ! Please go play away Sweet Child.

You're insufferably pompous. You seem to need an unevolved mind to which you can condescend so as to make yourself feel superior and important. There was no "subtlety" in your comments. There was a laughably unwitting contradiction. There ARE indeed "more complex realities", but you're unable to identify them. They don't include the imaginary "Manichean analysis" you haughtily disdain. They do include a landscape of various peoples, some of which are implacable enemies, some of which are more amenable to compromise. But the implacable enemies are precisely that, and it's no mistake to IDENTIFY them as such. At least you conceded defeat on that other idiotic point you made about how Israelis should be dancing in the street with the Egyptian protestors despite their strident displays of hatred for Israel.

Guy Bechor calls not to count that Recent Popular Uprising would lead Democracy for Arabs! ! ! For Arabs, threwing down the regiems of their rulers are explict victory opening the door to reforms and better changes. It is okay for The Democracy of Israel that elcetions to bring exremist parties to lead Israel ! It would not be Democracy if Elections of Arabs brings leading parties which Israel or the West may not like!!!!! !!! Of course that would not be Democracy by your double standards !

is it to difficult to understand for you that your religious fanatic leaders like hetzbollah hamas the ayatollah the mullah will never bring you freedom and democracy? Your fondamentalists people are crazie, they only want wars, wars and wars one after the other they want the distruction of Israel they only live for that. Israel is tired of wars, let us live in peace. If you choose the radical islam we will never reach peace!

Democracy and Islam are not compatible. What we see in Egypt, Tunisia, Algeria, Libya etc.. sums up to an upheaval of the masses asking for their share. Will there be democratic elections? Yes...but only till the Islamists grab the power.

Why is it that troops have fired upon demonstrators in Egypt, Oman and Tunisia? Some "victory opening the door to reforms and better changes." Democracy and Arabs. Yeah, right. Grow a brain.

democracy is democratic values and equal minority rights, not a popularity contest of people's basest prejudices. if you understood democracy properly you'd be for the democratization of egypt and the rest of the middle east.

the brightest bulb in the room arabs have been the problem of the middle east for the last 1400 years not acknowledging reality makes one very dumb

whoever translates articles on Ynet needs to study the difference between past and past pluperfect tenses because this serious error has been cropping up again and again recently, and not just on Ynet I might add. It's happening worldwide with possibly disastrous consequences for our language. The first sentence should be ''have'' not ''had''. I'm not joking. Please help stamp out this dreadful mistake before it spirals out of control

Shouting it from the very beginning. Expect NOT any Arab/Muslim country to ever becoming democratic EVER...It is an illusionary to think that CAN..The second I saw the headline I said BINGO! Man you have said IT.

Showed the TRUE FACE of The PROTESTER..And how many of them there are among them.Not so much as being for Gaddafi.. But it is in their nature,nurtured from the cradle to the grave..

When you have "has/have" with the past tense of a verb, it's called "present perfect", not "past tense". You're right though, using past perfect incorrectly is a common mistake..

in the subjunctive ("as if this were" as opposed to "as if this is"). And thanks to the Readership for pointing out grammatical errors. A good editor is always a prized but underrated gift for the writer.

More to the point, democracy and fundamentalist ideology are not compatible. Real democracy entails a value system which promotes freedom of expression and the protection of all citizens from the oppression of majorities who believe their 'truths' are absolute.

I don't know what is your origin, but your response will reflect them... As long as the native British people don't identify their new Muslims citizens as enemies they will co-exists in the peaceful state of Britain. This is true even for the next 100 years when the Christians will become the minority, and the British parliament will reflect the majority i.e. the Muslims. A clash on the island is a ridiculous idea because neither side identify the other as enemy at present. Hypothetical questions... Do you agree with the statements above? How can you guarantee peace? How can you guarantee the Christians and Muslims acts in the next 100 years according to your PRESENT state of mind? More over... Given the Middle East reality and historical clash (BEFORE WW1), do you believe that shaking hands on the white house guarantee peace? Almost there... If nothing guarantee peace why do you think you have the solution? Finally... Why do you search for a solution? There are problems in our life that can be managed without solution.

What buffoonery to think that Arab states will allow actual democratic rule! The Turks, unlike their Bedouin cousins focused on secular government which is how they found democracy and the economic goldmine that went with liberty. The Persians used to have a democracy until the US CIA undermined that idea and look at the tragedy, there! Nassar looked like the basis of a secular democracy, but he was far too Pan-Arab Nationalist for the paymasters in the West, so that changed. Personally, I don't find that there is sufficient courage and enterprise in the ME for democracy. They people there have been brought up to be serfs by their tribal leaders - and if this is their choice, they will acquiesce to the power structure chosen for them, as always. It has been thus for 3,000 years, why change now?