He really said he keeps "36 mitzvot like any other haredi"? That's not a very good track record.

I thought the Haderim would observe more than 36 mitzvot

These people have no morals when it suits them. They bad mouth the secular way of life then open a bar. They only manage to 'look at things differently' when there's money and personal gain involved. They make me want to hurl.

Marketing and tactics do not a "messiah" make.

If you believe that Israel belongs to the Jews because it says so in the Torah, then the Torah laws are the laws of the land and secular who do not want to abide by the Torah laws ought to leave the land. There is no bad mouthing of the secular way of life, just showing you that you are going against the law of the land.

What's your problem Talula? These guys are WORKING and PAYING TAXES like you always complain that Haredim do not do. Isn't WORKING FOR A LIVING and even EMPLOYING OTHERS a moral thing to do? You are the one bad mouthing here.

Yes, at least one of those bars flouts the smoking ban. How can you trust such people are sincere when they break the law?

there is no doubt that both qara-im and shomronim are more authentic and kosher than these aliens men-in-bleck and mafiosi hats!

What are you talkbackers doing? Have you even donated 10 shekels?

On one hand they condemn, on a daily basis, the secular lifestyle, but when it suits them - it's fine to sell booze and look at half naked women – because they are earning money from it. There are other ways of making money you know, which don't make a mockery of their talit and peyot. If you don't get that – then you're just as stupid/thick as they are. And, you don't live here, so that makes it even worse. Run along now.

the History of the Jewish people , of our people . And that's why this country is ours , not because we were "given" this country by a "god" .

I don't abide by the Torah, I abide by the laws of the land. I won't be arrested for drinking or wearing skimpy clothes. I also don't riot and smash up things when I don't get my way - so go sell crazy someplace else. And don't EVER tell me to go and live someplace else you mental case.

Your Messiah Will NEVER Come Again .

to sit down for an evening of good conversation and feel free to recite she-ha-kol over a beer, or ha-adamah over peanuts--and THAT is Jewish (!)--without fear of hate-seething seculars (like some of the tbers)--in what is SUPPOSED to be a country of Jews. There's no Torah prohibition against this. Some tbers write like Christian Puritans and hate datim no matter what they do. Kol ha-kavod to these dati entrepreneurs and best wishes for your success! Paqid Yirmeyahu Paqid 16, The Netzarim, Ra'anana, Israel Israeli Torah-reverer Jew: Teimani, Baladi, Dor Dai Advocate for Logic as Hermeneutic Halakhic Authority Welcoming all who choose to keep Torah (When questions to me go unanswered, they have refused to post it. Find our reply in our Web Café at www.netzarim.co.il)

You fail reading comprehension. Where in the article does it state that strippers are employed at these bars, or that escort services operate there, or that the owners are engaged in anything shady or illegal? Furthermore where does it state that the owners of these businesses go around and demonstrate against immodestly dressed women? In your ferocious bigoted mind, everyone has to fit into your stupid stereotype even when this is obviously not the case. Once again, Talula fills up a steaming bucket of FAIL.

Talula, be careful throwing stones in glass houses. When is the last time you saw a Chabadnik with peyot?

as you are one .

Haven't been since before 1983 when I renounced it. Most everyone knows that. Anyone with an IQ above 60 could see that all of my writing educates Jews that Christianity is false and encourages Christians to discover the pre-Christian Pharisee Ribi who taught Torah, so that Christians can learn to follow Ribi Yehoshua and renounce the post 135 CE Christian mangod to follow Torah. Everyone can understand that except atheists with substandard IQs who promote Hitler's genetic racism for their definition of "Jew." It's the atheists and socialist Left that sank the Altalena. Now you hypocrites whine about being criticized by the Right and datim living in "your" pseudo-Jewish neighborhoods. You claim Torah is a history book and contradict yourself by pronouncing its most basic precepts false. You are not a Jew by Torah and Torah provides no basis for you, or any other atheist, to any claim whatsoever to this land. That Author of Torah grants this land to Jews as defined by the b'rit of keeping Torah. You are a fraud who does more harm to Israel in the eyes of the world than Salma. Your opinions are worth exactly zero. If you don't like it, I really don't care. You can go back to France and leave Israel to Jews! Paqid Yirmeyahu Paqid 16, The Netzarim, Ra'anana, Israel Israeli Torah-reverer Jew: Teimani, Baladi, Dor Dai Advocate for Logic as Hermeneutic Halakhic Authority Welcoming all who choose to keep Torah (When questions to me go unanswered, they have refused to post it. Find our reply in our Web Café at www.netzarim.co.il)

No Good. This is not good!

You can bang on as much as you want. I just don't care about what you have to say - you are so irrelevant. And the funniest thing of all, is that you don't even live here - so until you do, you should keep quiet about affairs in a country where you don't live, contribute or pay tax.

Still morning the Fogel family,victims of hate, we need now more than ever, to be openminded and united. The Habadniks try their best to do so.

a convert that claims to be an "orthodox jew" yet self-claims he is israel's "paqid" and promotes teachings of a renamed and reinterpreted jesus, inviting jews to join your cult-like group that you cannot get any legitimate jewsih authority to endorse as kosher. that's what we know, although when confronted with these un-orthodox issues you become deafly silent, bashing your christian straw men as proof you are "not one of them". come on, christian bashing will only go so far. why can't you get and religious authority to give you and your strange teachings their stamp of approval? that's what "most everyone" would like to know. until then, all we have is a dubious question mark when it comes to the self-anointed "paqid" and his netZER-im.

His parents and family are not Jewish - they only share a common ground of Christianity - not Judaism.

But even now , we can't allow a deceiving guy , a liar , to sprew his christian ideology and distortions . We can't allow this guy to compare the "father" of our country to this levy . PS , you forgot a "u" .

too . Again trying to deceive 100 % TRUE Jews . Your website , where you told this lie that you received the Blessings of the Chief Rabbi ? Or with your "ministry of absorption" heading ?