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Prepare for holy wars
Avi Rath
Published: 08.03.11, 00:40
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31. Nice try
Ditchdigger ,   USA   (03.08.11)
Secular humanism, specifically communism, is responsible for more systematic and targeted deaths in human history than anything else.
32. Holy Wars and the Fricking pope
Jeffrey A Friedberg ,   Albuquerque, USA   (03.08.11)
Sorry; what, exactly, is the point here of this article, it is just not clear to Me. It needs a Summary paragraph. BTW this pope is the most bizarre, simplistic pope I have ever seen in my 65 years
33. three religions one ideal
cristian ,   bs as arg   (03.08.11)
Isa will return to overthrow al-dajjal in the battle at the lud gate in zion,Isa will kill all pigs and break all crosses,works will be judged on the scales of justice and hell is where infidels live in torment( islam),the messiah will defeat the gentiles nations and restore the kingdom of israel,the jews in exile will return and rule in an age of spiritual harmony and the lord will be recognized as the universal king,works by following the commandments and bodies are sent to gehinnon where they burn eternally in a fiery pit(judaism),jesus will come to rescue israel defeat the antichrist,judge the nations and the wicked in israel and rule over the messianic kingdom,salvation is received by jesus and the lake of fire is the second death of the soul(christians)
34. Writer twisted Pope's words
Tom Harris ,   Arlington, VA   (03.08.11)
The writer of this story twisted the words of the Pope. IThe Pope actualy came out in defense of the Jews in what he said. He said they cannot be blamed for killing Jesus! This author is lying about what the Pope said. Read the Pope's own words and see if I am not telling the truth!
35. Give it a rest...
Larry ,   Walled Lake, MI USA   (03.08.11)
Avi, Get it out of your head that Catholics take issue with Jews. In my forty two years as a Catholic, the only people I hear flying this canard is Jews. We share more good history than bad and Christians are brothers in arms when it comes to defending a peacful modern society against the onslaught of Sharia on the world.
36. Nicene Creed
jack ,   Blairstown usa   (03.08.11)
I have always thought that the fact we catholics recite the Nicene creed in every mass and it specifically states that Christ suffered and died UNDER PONTIUS PILATE was a specific exonoration of the Jews for the death of Christ. The Pope's recent statement came as a shock to me. I thought the issue had been settled theologically. Except for saints who are mentioned abundantly in varous prayers, I don't know of any other prayer which identifies a specific individual for guilt or accountability as the Nicene Creed does Pilate. Not even Judas. I just assumed it was to make clear it was Roman law and Roman authority which made the ressurection possible.
37. Pope, the stament and The Church
larry ,   phila, USA   (03.08.11)
First Benidict is not the first Pope to issue this statement. At least five times befor popes have issued simular statements. They have just been ignored by the majority of the church. Tom, if you want to comment on the catholic church you should pick up a history book and the caticism of the catholic church too know why the catholic church teaches what it does. One of my best freinds is a pastor at a Calvery Chapel and we have discussed the opinions of what many evangelicals think that the Catholic Church teaches but with enlightenment there comes understanding. Ignorance brreds stupid statements. But back to the article. I hope the world listens and stops blaming the Jews for the sins of the world. ALL CHRISTIANS believe that Christ died for our sins and that WE are resposible for his death. This Has been the teaching of the church from the beginning and has been repeated numerous times in the teaching of the church. It has also been ignored repeatedly. Let us hope someone listens this time.
38. Prepare for holy wars
Meith ,   Dallas, TX, U.S.A.   (03.08.11)
It does not matter whether Jesus Christ was killed by Jews or anybody else. It is all planned and the final sacrifice for man's sin has been made. No other sacrifice need be made. Only belief in the final sacrifice, the meaning and results is necessary. True enough though about the religious wars of the future and the current world situation. The response to Islamic aggression will be extreme beyond belief.
39. Death of Jesus
Jim ,   Boise USA   (03.08.11)
The sins or this world are what killed Jesus. Our faith is clear on this subject. As far as religion being the cause of conflict, this is silly: the Mongal Hordes, Alexander the great, Roman dominance, Napoleon, WWI, and WWII had nothing to do with religion or faith. While it is often an excuse, it has been used a tool of power. Man's grasp at power and dominance over others is the driving force behind conflict and religious organizations are often used as a tool. This is clearly what is happening now with Islam. Until the love of God permiates or culture, that of selfless love - the same shown by Jesus, conflict will remain.
40. Christians Hating Jews
Doug ,   Roseville, CA - USA   (03.08.11)
Christians do not hate Jews. We do not condem the Jews for the death of Jesus, because if Jesus didn't die on the cross we would still be dead in our sins.
41. exoneration of jews
lois sellar ,   zullinger, pa., usa   (03.08.11)
I find it interesting that no one mentioned that the Romans were in power at the time of Jesus death. They did not spare Jesus so I guess that makes all of us guilty. No one came to His defense>
42. religion the biggest killer of mankind? Doubt it.
Jimmy ,   USA   (03.08.11)
In the history of recorded war there have been approx. 1763 wars. 123 of them were religious in nature. So 7% of all the recorded wars were religios, and HALF of those were Islamic in nature.
43. # 29...you're always wrong with out dated
Edithann ,   USA   (03.08.11)
material.... Catholics do not make up most of the worlds Christians....Unlike Jews Catholicism is not Tribal...and so there are variations of Christian thought... Why not look into what Jesus was all about...and that might tell you why the Jews had to 'have' him killed'! TATA
44. Christians Defined
Michael ,   US   (03.08.11)
We know how it will all end - God's Word tells us. Christians are those who profess faith in Jesus Christ as the son of God who died for their sins and rose to sit at the right hand of God. Neither labels of man nor any act instituted by him will get you to heaven, only your faith in Jesus.
45. pope is a dope!
JR ,   Cucamonga, USA   (03.08.11)
Popes have a history of making unbiblical statements, and this is no exception; he should grab a bible (if he can find one) and read Matthew 27:25 "Then answered all the people, and said, His blood [be] on us, and on our children." But the point is not blaming the Jews for the crucifixion of Jesus, the fact is that I did it! My sins, your sins, Jews and Gentiles sins were what nailed Him to the cross! Much apologies to the Jews for the stupidity and sins of idiot so-called "Christians" who followed the directions of sinful men and mistreated G-d's people for the last 1900 years (remember, it was the other way around in the beginning). Yes, we are in a holy war. G-d made promises to Abraham and David and Satan wants to eliminate the Jews to prove G-d a liar; the west is weak and turning it's back on Israel, while Islam is rising and becoming more vocal and violent in its desire to erase G-d's people - Ezekiel 38 is on your doorstep kids, Revelation 6-19 and the return of your Messiah may be very soon! Psa 122:6 Pray for the peace of Jerusalem: they shall prosper that love you!
46. Anti-Catholic Diatribe
William   (03.08.11)
This is such complete and utter garbage. Shame on you for this anti Catholic diatribe.
47. Religion is the biggest killer of mankind
Chris ,   NJ USA   (03.08.11)
Actually, this is a false statement. Atheism is the biggest killer. Countless millions have been exterminated by the Soviet and Maoist leadership. Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot, Fidel Castro and Che Guevera among others have more blood on their hands than all religions combined. Man without faith are adrift morally and will usually fail on the side of pride, power lust and selfishness.
48. #28 Consult a good history book other than Christian traditi
Israeli Jew ,   Israel   (03.08.11)
49. #19 see #24 and
Israeli Jew ,   Israel   (03.08.11)
There are no Christians who have not been spawned from the Catholic Church of Rome. There have never been. And there cannot be. Not one. You're one of countless Christians who rely on your Sunday School teacher instead of a good history book. Bottom line: you know less about your own religion than many Jews do.
50. popes recent statement (no surprise)
davec ,   richland wa us   (03.08.11)
This is expected considering the Churches campaign to reckon both Islam and Israel 'back to the Mother Church' (i.e. the Inquisition didnt manage to kill off all dissention so well try subversion) Back about 2001, the Church 'graciously' announced an outreach to both Islam and Israel to curry favor of both towards them. Islam fell for it in the US as evidenced by the current (obviously) Roman led Ecumenical outreach. Theres one in my community, I refuse to participate. Israel hasnt to date fallen for it, so theyll try this tactic, then another. All the while, their attack dogs (radical Islam) are attacking on various fronts. Same old Romish games.
51. Religion is the biggest killer of mankind
Jacquie ,   Houston, TX   (03.08.11)
I agree 100% with your comment. How people of any religion can propound the vision of a loving God is ludicrous when viewed in context with the reality of historical facts.
52. given
deanjagger ,   us   (03.08.11)
JESUS gave up his life, no one took it, making the popes comment ludicrous.
53. NEWFLASH: Aging is actually biggest killer
Matt ,   BTown, USA   (03.08.11)
Obviously
54. WW II and religion
Walter ,   Basking Ridge, NJ   (03.08.11)
I do not recall any Christian or Jewish leader saying that all outside their faith should die....only Moslems do that.
55. holy war article
Zef ,   EUROPE   (03.08.11)
Well if it's about hate then it's the hate of cousins, Jews and Muslims are cousins weather they like it or not, it's a family feud at the end of the day, the current enmity toward the west has more to do with politics, and of course fanatics claim it as being the new crusades against the Islamic lands, which is nonsense, if in fact the fanatics were "really" religious they would not want to mix faith and politics which is a poisonous cocktail, so what we are seeing is a struggle of Muslim fanatics subverting their own religion for the purpose of creating a global totalitarian state based on a fanatical interpretation of Islam, and just like the cold war this war must be stopped.
56. re#1 religion the biggest kliller of man kind
jr ,   usa   (03.08.11)
Does that include 20th century communism and nazziism? How about the 50 some million American babies (and who knows how many more around the world) sacrificed to the god of selfish convenience ?
57. Prepare for Holy wars article
Hank ,   Rockwell NC, USA   (03.08.11)
It hasn't been very many years since most mainline protestant churches did not see the Catholic church as Christian, most still don't. Here in the US it took them two centuries to get the protestants mainline denominations to consider, much less agree, that they were Christian. As a fundamental Christian I still have problems with the Catholic doctrine as do most fundamental churches, we love the Jewish people and pray for the peace of Jerusalem. The belief that the Jews killed Christ is absolute nonsence which has caused Jews untold misery and the true church to lose its Jewishness, one cannot understand the Holy Bible without an understanding that we worship a Jewish God and a Jewish saviour and the Holy Bible was written by Jewish writers. Yeshua's death for all of mankind was the greatest triump over evil in all of history in this world and the world to come. It was not a tragedy! If there is blame for Yeshua's death I will take the blame, He died for me. The pope should ask the Jewish people for forgiveness and then ask the same of God. Hank Mullis Rockwell NC
58. Pope's appology & what is Christianity
Bill ,   Saginaw, MI   (03.08.11)
It seems both the Christians and the Jews are in a swamp fighting the crocidile of Islam that intends to eat us both. Then we can alway count on an attack on one another. Yikes, are you not worried? We stand to be taken over by a bunch of full-of-it Muslim zelots and it always breaks down into a you vs them argument. Guy, I'm worried!!!
59. "xtianity is dying in the west"
R ,   Red State, USA   (03.08.11)
Conservative Christians are the the biggest advocates of Israel & the Jews. Secular Jews in the USA are an embarrassment to Jew & gentile alike. I'm an RC/papist and firmly on your side. If we can't have peace then perhaps we need to make it peaceful. I do mean that bad people respect powerful peaceful people; if they understand there are consequences to poor decision making on their part. Where's Ronald Regan when we need him?
60. the alternative to religion is what?
JIm ,   Pa.USA   (03.08.11)
Religion: that set of rules by which I know I'm ok, and you're not. Always this set of rules finds its extremity in murder. The alternative is relationship with God by way of His own grace, which leads to love, which is 'to die for the other'...to do unto others as I would have them do unto me. Proactive, not negative, which is how 'religions' put it: don't do to the other that which you would not have done to yourself. Find out what love is.
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