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Tibi: Palestinians ashamed of Itamar attack
Roni Sofer
Published: 14.03.11, 18:20
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31. TIBI
jew from the east   (03.14.11)
according to Tibi "The Palestinian nation is ashamed".WHAT NATION??? I hear the hens roar with laughter
32. #22- and let's put that into context
William ,   Israel   (03.14.11)
namely - 1) most Israelis either ignore Rabbi Ovadia or denounce his statements when they warrant it, and do so publicly 2) Rabbi Ovadia's comments NEVER equated to violence against "Palestinians" let alone a family being slaughtered in their sleep.
33. #24 - same place morality is "Arab terrorism"
William ,   Israel   (03.14.11)
After all, the West Bank wasn't "occupied" until 1967 after years of Arab attacks on civilians just like this one in Itamar. and up to 1999, "Palestinians" were not humiliated but treated as equals with free movement and a fast growing economy which they gave up to support terror attacks on civilians. Since the "Palestinians" started out by humiliating themselves, why would it matter who else followed their lead, including fellow Arabs?
34. #26 - or rather, Jews recognize duplicity
William ,   Israel   (03.14.11)
One cannot condemn this atrocity (which was made ONLY to the Knesset and not Arab media), then justify attacks and sedition against the State. Sorry, but Jews have dealt too long with Arab plies and duplicity. It didn't begin with Tibi's comments, it didn't begin with Arafat admitting the Oslo Accords were really a step to destroy Israel...it began back in the 1920s when Arabs like Faisal agreed to Israel then supported attacks on Jews. There is no ethnic hate as Jews have no problem with Arabs as seen by the many business connections with them in the Gulf, even in West Bank. Jews send humanitarian aid to Pakistan, a country that is against Israel, the same way Israel sends aid to Haiti - unconditionally and immediately. Your argument for separation and legal partition now is a farce. It is not Israel that rejects it, but the "Palestinians" when they note they will NOT end aggressions against Israel nor end demands of flooding our country with 5 million Arabs spoon-fed hatred from Day 1. The only person who seems out of touch with reality is you, and Abbas & Co. are betting on that!
35. Why such a fuss about Tibi?
Albert Camus ,   Amsterdam   (03.15.11)
Whatever Tibi has ever said, I have read worse on the Haaretz moderated TalkBack. Dehumanization of Jews (published) by Jews is a much bigger problem than Mr. Tibi. At least he is true to his constituents.
36. # 5 Wrong.
Jules   (03.15.11)
A capital punishment law will not resolve any problems, because for "martyrs" it is a free ride to the 72 virgins, so they are not afraid. Besides, more streets in the PA would be named after them.
37. tibi and rivlin
alexi   (03.15.11)
tibi could be an great israeli if he understood that the real history of israel the homeland of the jews periodically ransacked by arab invadors. The ancient homeland was israel'and there was no arab state there. That is a myth and there is no organic entity called palestininas which is a roman term. Look at kara. he is an outstanding israeli who is proud and who greatly contributes to israel along with the druze who have proven themselves for the most part. tibi is educated with a ph.d he can weave a beatiful speech. Rivlin likes him. But he fails to understand that he and his father were sitting on jewish land that goes way back and that he was a visitor only till when the jews returned. And when they returned, they did not throw him out. He and his fellow moslems have been lied to by the mullahs in the mosques for years which is hard to overcome. Most arabs even admit while they want a palestinian state, they want israeli benefits. Wake up to reality tibi adn fight for israel, not arab palestine.
38. To N 4
Luiz Felipe Haddad ,   Brazil   (03.15.11)
Dear Zionist Forever. At first, I affirm my sadness and indignation because of the refered awful crime. But Israel, protected by God Almighty and endorsed by all decent and conscious people around the world, will prevail over her enemies. Nevertheless, Tibi, while he is a member of the Knesset, deserves to be respected. Democracy demands it. I think, also, that Israel, as a Jewish State with Arab minorities, can not have a Parliament without representatives from them. Any charge against him must observe the due process of law. I salute you.
39. "Palestinians ashamed"? By passing out candies and calling
Jehudah Ben-Israel ,   Qatzrin, Israel   (03.15.11)
the perpetrators of this slaughter "brave heroes" at their web sites...!! Enough with talking from two sides of the mouth: one, in English for international consumption, and a different attitude and language in Arabic, promoting the demise of Israel at all cost, including the slaughter of children, babies, only because they are Jewish...!!
40. Tibi
Texan   (03.15.11)
tibi take dawn you mask , you hand full of blood ,you are trader ,.....
41. "Palestinians ashamed" now that's sarcasm
Alexander ,   NJ USA/Israel   (03.15.11)
Who does he think he's fooling? The Palestinians are so sorry that they are naming a square after the terrorist Dalal Mughrabi in Al-Bireh, near Ramallah last Sunday, Reuters reported. Then he goes on to talk about "There are rules to the struggle against the occupation." Yes, and we can read them on Hamas's charter or Fatah's charter which is nothing short of the destruction of Israel. If he wants to free Palestine then give it back to the original owners the Jews. They won't capture these people because the noble Palestinians could care less how many Jews are killed.
42. find the murderers
real vision ,   united States   (03.15.11)
and hand them over to the IDF
43. Palestinian State
Michael ,   Arcata USA   (03.15.11)
Hamas praises these murders as heroic. Abas issues a strong condemnation of the attacks only after serious pressure from Obama, and then only in english and not to his own people who are celebrating and passing out candy. This does not seem like people who are ashamed to me, and it does not seem like people who should have their own country either.
44. ASHAMED - ? -
Orao. ,   Srbia-   (03.15.11)
"The Palestinian nation is ashamed," Arab-Israeli lawmaker Ahmad Tibi (United Arab List-Ta'al) said during a special Knesset session on the terror attack in which five members of the Fogel family from the settlement of Itamar were brutally murdered in their sleep. "A coward entered the (Fogel) home in the middle of the night. He looked at his victims while they were sleeping, and killed an entire family. A mother, father and their children. I wonder what that man was thinking when he looked at the baby girl's face and stabbed her," the MK said. "He is mistaken if he thinks he will be called a hero – because he is a coward! He did not do anything in the name of the Palestinian people. The Palestinian nation is ashamed of such people, who distort its image and its righteous struggle to free itself of the occupation. A struggle must be moral, conscionable and fair. There are rules to the struggle against the occupation." - WHY ARE YOU NOT ASHAMED OF YOUR LIES - ? BECAUSE THERE IS NO OCCUPATION. AND THEREFORE YOUR STRUGGLE HAS NO MORALITY, WHICH THIS ACT SHOWS !. Orao. Srbia.
45. Tibi read this
EZ   (03.15.11)
"He is mistaken if he thinks he will be called a hero ". No, he is not. How many squares in Palestinian towns are named after murderers of Jews? Not people who fought in wars. People who killed kids with knives. People who shot unarmed captives at point blank range. You people are a vicious cult. Too late to change.
46. Why no news on investigation?
Peter Morris ,   New Zealand   (03.15.11)
So everyone knows who the killer or killers are. Why then no one charged. So far we hear that someone jumped the fence. Bring on the Olympics. An eleven foot high jumper must surely be a world record.
47. To Ahmed Tibi
Chaim ,   Canada   (03.15.11)
As they say, crap or get off the pot. Enough with the BS violence and all the excuses that go along with it in vain attempt to justify it. Either you want peace or war. Latest actions seems to say, war. I don't see people as acceptable collateral damage. Tell your bosses to get their collective asses together, sit down with the Israelis and work it out, period. You were so close on so many occasions. To hell with Hamas, let them burn in hell for their idiotic ideology. Peace is worth the sacrifice, and not in terms of child sacrifice aka telling your youth to strap on bombs to get it Get some balls man and start talking and forget the frakkin Islam agenda!,
48. Tibi, you may be able to fool some people some of the times,
JBI ,   Israel   (03.15.11)
but not all the people all of the times. The Palestinian Arabs have had so many opportunities to come to terms with Israel and its right to exist as the nation-state of the Jewish people, and each time they have been offered a deal for peaceful coexistence with the Jewish community of the Land they have rejected it, each time, since 1917! But, they have never ceased to try to extract the lives of Jews here, through pogroms as well as simple family slaughter. I suspect if the perpetrators were Jewish you would call it a "ritual act of slaughter of Arab children". We simply call it acts of non-stop terror and unless and until the Muslim-Arabs accept Israel's right to be, to exist as the nation-state of the Jewish people, such acts will continue.
49. enemy from within
observer ,   Egypt   (03.15.11)
The terrorists first ran into a house that was bereft of its inhabitants at that moment. They decided to proceed to the next house of the Fogel family. How could this terrorist act take place in a Jewish settlement that seemed to have been so well protected? Itamar is protected by an electric fence that sets off an alarm even if the shrubs move. It is patrolled by defense ministry civil guards who replaced the IDF but who were trained by the IDF previous to taking this post. The procedure during the night of the massacre was fully followed. The town is equipped with gates, fences, lighting, cameras, security, vehicles and more. Alarm was set off by the fact that the fence was not touched, but as the Itamar security guards did not find a break in the fence — it APPARENTLY had been jumped. So the terrorists in the return trip either used the "Jump" with its all risks of being caught inside if failure of "jump" occur OR use guard uniform, ID badge and fluent Hebrew to walk through Settlement gate; that is impossible. Most terrifying than the abominable act is thinking that the terrorists could be from within. Man hunt INSIDE settlement seemed to bring more terror and anger to settlers especially when that stirs the religious fear of fervent settlers of itamar of this "WITHIN". So, they sufficed themselves with the OUTSIDE hunt.
50. They're sooo ashamed they're handing out candies.
AK   (03.15.11)
51. Ashamed as human beings not as Palestinians.
Salma ,   Palestine   (03.15.11)
the Killer's identity till this moment remains unknown.....Ynet, do you know who is the killer??
52. 49 cont.who knows blind spots of cameras except within enemy
observer ,   Egypt   (03.15.11)
considering that TWO houses were broken in.
53. Yes, people, we are deeply ashamed, like it or not :(
Salma ,   Palestine   (03.15.11)
54. Not sure he is ashamed - scared is more like it
Talula ,   Israel   (03.15.11)
With every brutal murder - a nation of Jews comes together - little by little. If this brutal murder of settlers continue, the entire country will unite to form an impenetrable wall that will result in the Palestinians NEVER having a homeland. So, you murderous bunch of savages, keep it up – you have so much to lose and nothing to gain.
55. Palis gainst Jews
Dumbwit   (03.15.11)
What I don 't get is why the arabs already living on Israeli territory and causing murder and havoc, are not banded together like millions of Jews were and marched to their deaths. And I'm not suggesting that Israel (the Jews) should start to build those ovens. But all you have to do is to herd them onto boats, put weights on their feet and drown the bastards. End of story and PEACE for the Jews, the rightful owners of Israel as proclaimed by the true G-d of Israel. You would actually be doing those Palestinians (?) a big favor!
56. 51 - who but a palestinian?
mike ,   israel (formerly usa   (03.15.11)
it's not like pals don't have a looong history of targeting innocent little children for murder in cold blood. who else around here does such abominable things besides them???
57. # 46
Birdi ,   Israel   (03.15.11)
At present there is a gag order on the Itamar massacre investigation. The fence was not cut, from the inside, nor from the outside. So yes, the killers jumped over the fence. Watch the Olympics to learn how that is achieved!!
58. Whe he makes these same...
Mark from Georgia ,   USA   (03.15.11)
Remarks on all the Arab networks, and makes the statements in Arabic, then that will mean something (not much). But these remarks are only "lip service" to appease the Western Media, nothing more. Arafat used this same old trick for decades. Say one thing for the Western Press, then say the opposite when speaking to an Arab audience in Arabic. Of course the Mainstream Media always ignored this obvious hypocrisy.
59. too little too late
Jorge ,   Israel/USA/Argentina   (03.15.11)
60. to#11
Jennie ,   US/Israel   (03.15.11)
A correct observation....I feel ofended, that Tibi is refering to palestinians as a Nation while he is speaking in Israel, the country and Nation he is an MK of.... Well,They are Not ! At least not yet...He should get a lesson on "Government and Nationhood" ...And the Israeli cabinet members should remind him of this fact...
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