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A nation of martyrs
Alex Joffe
Published: 30.04.11, 14:06
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31. Palestine: a fictional state of Jew haters.
Chaim ,   Israel   (05.01.11)
Palestine is a fictional state. However, unlike other fictional states such as Oz and Neverland, it has no entertainment or fantasy value. It is a fictional state of Jew haters, intended to promote Israel's destruction. That is the incontrovertible truth, and deep down inside, almost all of us know it.
32. 25 - my arab kids are in a completely jewish school
mike ,   israel (formerly usa   (05.01.11)
and in their ceremonies the school talks about israel as the land of 3 religions and they sing about peace. and your diet of hate and murder you feed your children in gaza doesn't exist? you can live in google, i prefer to live in the real world.
33. Quote?
Sarah ,   Jerusalem Israel   (05.01.11)
Not only is the "quote" distorted and out of context, but it's not a "quote" in the true sense of the word---it is a paraphrase of a discussion Goldman attributed to Ben Gurion 20 years later, and after BG was dead and couldn't comment on it. But the "lie" by ND is the deliberate distortion and removal of the entire context.
34. #2 - nice try. Ben Gurion never said that
William ,   Israel   (05.02.11)
Many lies circulating around as "quotes" from various Israeli leaders are used to "support the Palestinian narrative", and this is one of them. But we can find many, many Arab quotes citing the fallacy of the "Palestinian" nation, from PLO leaders themselves, and Arab leaders on blaming themselves for the "naqba" - with proper citation.
35. well, if you call slicing a family as they sleep "resistance
William ,   Israel   (05.02.11)
or targeting pregnant women, then yeah, I guess "Palestinians" are all about "resistance". "palestinians" are synonymous with "resistance", that is "terrorism", at least that's what many people throughout the world think when polled, including Gulf Arabs. Must be why whenever a terror ring is broken in Iraq, Afghanistan, Germany, LA, Sudan - you always find a couple "Palestinians" among them.
36. #7 - sounds like your namesake hit your own head
William ,   Israel   (05.02.11)
If simpleton analysis is your game, then you've come to the wrong place. Israel hasn't received any peace opportunities that weren't tainted somehow. 2002 Arab League offer? It demanded 1967 borders (the same that CANNOT be defended) and covered only sovereign Arab nations but ignored non-sovereign terror groups like Hamas and Hizbullah, and they are the one's acting as proxies for sovereign nations like Iran. Not much of a deal, is it? "Greater Israel" policies? You seem to forget (intentionally) that those settlements are built on specific plots of land that was ethnically cleansed of Jews in 1948. Returning to them is neither colonial or occupation, it's a right of an ethnically cleansed people. The Pallys should extend citizenship to them and be done with it. Of course Abbas can show nothing but disappointment because his only goal was saving his own neck and destroying Israel, both which were abject failures. Arafat came close in 1999 but rejected it all for more concessions - an act that a majority of "Palestinians" say was a big mistake and "Arafat should have stayed at Camp David". The average "Palestinian" in Ramallah gets it. What's your problem?
37. #8 - "We love life"
William ,   Israel   (05.02.11)
Which is why you give the highest honors to those among you who kill themselves. Bravo.
38. #21 - no, terrorism is targeting civilians
William ,   Israel   (05.02.11)
Your "resistance" does that very well and often. Indeed, the terrorism tactics developed by the "Palestinians", like airline hijackings, have become commonplace in the world. Yet another "Palestinian" export.
39. #25 - I did. Couldn't find a TV show in Israel
William ,   Israel   (05.02.11)
promoting killing "Palestinian" kids or honoring those who do. Couldn't find any videos or articles about Israelis handing out candies or celebrating, even when violent enemies like Rantisi were killed. I tried with my best skills to find a curriculum or school book in Israel that showed "Palestinians" as evil and that showed disputed land as "solely Israeli", essentially ignoring "Palestinians" at all, but I couldn't find that either. I did manage to find one set of pictures, of young kids writing notes on the side of IDF missiles that were bound for Hizbullah in 2006. Those sites manipulated the context and said these were messages against the Lebanese civilians, which wasn't true. But I did find a lot of video evidence of "Palestinians" teaching kids how to be martyrs, they sing and dance for martyrs, they recite poetry about the evil Jew and the honor in killing a Jew, plenty of school books that show Israel and its people gone, and the evidence goes on further. You are welcome, however, to provide links to your (ahem) "evidence".
40. since you keep killing them, what do you expect?
rachel ,   new york city   (05.02.11)
41. #8 Salma - Volunteer for service
BEN JABO ,   ISRAEL   (05.02.11)
They need you to lead them
42. #20 Ben Alofs
BEN JABO ,   ISRAEL   (05.02.11)
That's a second hand quote, we want the actual quote from Ben Gurion, by Ben Gurion, in Ben Gurion's own writings
43. #21 abdalla, stop your kidding
BEN JABO ,   ISRAEL   (05.02.11)
You have no claim to the land, since it never, ever belonged to you Name its kings or rulers. What are their achievements? With which other peoples did the Palestinians interact? Where can one find any records where in the name of the country of Palestine or its people are mentioned? What Archaeological sites can one name? Where can one find the recorded history of these people? Whom did they conquer or were conquered by? Was Palestine ever recognized by a country whose existence, at that time or even now, leaves no room for misunderstanding? Can anyone name at least Five Palestinian leaders before Arafat? Since there is no such recognized country today, what caused its demise and when did it occur? Those who are lamenting the 'low sinking' of a 'once proud' nation, please tell us, when exactly was this proud nation brought down? By whom was it brought down? Also, what was it so proud of? And here are some very important historical facts and further relevant questions: Not even under the Ottoman Empire's 500 years occupation was the name of Palestine used for any part or section of the Holy Land for administrative purposes. As matter of fact, Palestine isn't mentioned in the Koran, neither is Jerusalem I dare you to PROVE it to be otherwise
44. #25 Jalal
BEN JABO ,   ISRAEL   (05.02.11)
How about Googling "Hamas Kindergarten Graduation", where your arab kids are all dressed up in Shahid unifroms, including mock bomb belts ? While you're at it, you can also Google Hamas fighters using their own kids as Human Shields, after all, Fahti Hammad made a video on You tube bragging out how Hamas uses their civilians for Human Shield purposes If you can't find the videos, don't be bashful, ask, I'll send the links free of charge, though you should be able to find it by yourself without a problem
45. No, a nation of morons.
David ,   Hartford USA   (05.02.11)
Why else couldn't the 'Palestinian' leadership accomplish ANYTHING in 60 years? Too busy stealing the donated funds, too busy organizing attacks on Israeli women and children, too busy making sure their kids went to Europe's best schools, etc. The 'Palestinians' must be brain dead to have allowed such behavior by their leaders. You get what you deserve.
46. The price of martyrdom
Marco ,   Spain   (05.02.11)
It has now cost Arabs their future and saddled the world with a parasitic and pathologically suicidal movement that has proven its capacity to destroy and its incapacity to create anything of substance to human civilization.
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