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CA Evangelicals oppose circumcision ban
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Published: 20.06.11, 07:49
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31. #29 - Don't need it - I'm perfect.
Talula ,   Israel   (06.21.11)
32. #3, 10 Rivkah
Ben ,   USA   (06.21.11)
Rivkah, How did the May 21 Rapture work out for you? See any good dis-apparitions? Two people standing in a field, and only one taken? Maybe it was a Secret Rapture, where God decided to spiritually circumcise, *secretly*, all the TRUE believers. OH PRAISE!!!
33. #2 - Hmm, in SF we see what lack of religion has brought
William ,   Israel   (06.21.11)
The capital of the porn industry and massive drug abuse, AIDS (in the 1980s). Not that religion could have stopped that but take away the issue of basic morality an replace it with basic human hubris. There is a place for both in this world. Personally, if you decide to live your life the SF way, then don't cry to the rest of us for universal healthcare to cover you mis-deeds.
34. #27 - female circumcision was for one purpose only
William ,   Israel   (06.21.11)
to take away the pleasure of sex from the female, ensuring male domination. Also, there is no medical or moral reason for female circumcision as it will always end in mutilation and lose of function. Hardly the case with male circumcision. If you can make that argument, feel free to do so. However, you're purposely distorting an argument to meet your case.
35. 32 Ben, USA: Harold Camping is a liar or else
Rivkah   (06.21.11)
YHWH delayed pulling a barley harvest of souls off the earth. Remember that YHWH told Jonah that Ninevah would be destroyed in 40 days, but when the people of Ninevah repented, that was delayed for forty years. If Harold Camping got enough people to repent of their sins and turn back to YHWH with his May 21 Rapture prediction that could have spared the nation what will happen when the barley harvest people are gone and all that's left are unbelievers and carnal believers. A third of the world will die initially in wars and from famine, drought, disease and beasts of the fields who eat them. Then it gets worse after that. So be thankful when there is a delay in the pulling off the earth of the saintly souls who are too dear to YHWH for Him to let them go through what is to come. 144,000 saintly souls from Israel, 12,000 from each tribe of Israel will be left and will be supernaturally protected from death by YHWH as they preach the sundown sixth day to sundown seventh day Sabbath of the Lord to the world. If you go to www.arkcode.com and read the ELS Bible code matrix on Congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords, you will find how upset YHWH is with people violating His Shabbat. She worked on the seventh day when that was not needful and YHWH took away His protection from her since she is Jewish and knew better.
36. Rivkah has a point...
OVADYAH ,   haleS   (06.21.11)
the prophets of old were sent to the leaders of Israel with a two fold message for the then present people and to the future retuned israel . that message said if you live by the ground rules I set down when I brought you out of egypt you will be blessed and prosper . if you fail to live by those ground rules you will not prosper and will be scattered among the nations. he also said thru his prophets in the time of the end of the age he would bring his people from among the nations. and if those nations blessed israel they would be blessed if they failed a went against israel they would face Gods judgement. ... simply bless Gods chosen = blessing . make gods chosen miserable ...expect the same in return...
37. Talula 28/31
Eaglebeak ,   Left Coast, USA   (06.21.11)
You sound like you have had a lot of experience with mens private parts. When I consider getting to know a woman I look at them as a person. I don't concentrate on one part or another. No matter how perfect you may or may not look I wouldn't be interested in anyone who is so shallow.
38. #34 William
David   (06.22.11)
if you research female circumcision you'll find it comes in many different forms. Some forms are very minor , just a knick , others mimic male circumcision by removing the clitoral hood , others are done to make the area more attractive and in rare cases others involve complete removal of clitoris and sewing up vagina. All these forms are banned in the west, even the knick which is far less invasive than male circumcision. They are banned because they infringe on the rights of female babies.
39. @ #4
Doro ,   HD, Ger   (06.22.11)
apart from this, that it doesn't hurt much on the 8th day and that it is not a mutilation like the female circumcision it is scientifically proven that it is actually quite healthy. It prevents infections and sexually transmitted diseases.
40. female circumcision = religious freedom too ,but its banned
(06.22.11)
I guess thats because it only affects Muslims.
41. only Rivkah makes any sense here
federa   (06.22.11)
People say it looks better circumcised. OK, let the man decide for himself when he grows up ...I dont know any men who have opted for circumcision as adults just because it looks better. People say there are health benefits. Well several countries which used to have 90% circumcision rates in the 1950s , nowadays have near zero rates. No evidence from those countries has arisen to suggest there is a problem. Only Rivkah makes sense. It is a religious ritual. If you're not religious please don't do this to your child. It is not right.
42. We need this in Europe
Diederik S ,   Leuven Belgium   (06.23.11)
This would show who really wants to integrate. Every country has the right to impose limits on religious freedom. We don't allow polygamy or the sharia, why not this? If they want it, they can wait till they're 18. And reading the reaction from NYC girl here, I think the Evangelicans have good reason to change their position on the matter. After all, what better way to prevent underage teenagers having sex, right? ;-)
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