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Report: Bushehr experts killed in Russian plane crash
Stav Spivak
Published: 23.06.11, 12:47
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31. #18 hmm... interesting philosophical question
jj   (06.23.11)
if "he" "got" hitler, "he" kind of took "his" time about it, now didnt "he". what, did it hit 6 million dead and then "he" said, ok, now its time to intervene? and how should that intervention be done? a lightning bolt through berchtesgaden? a meteor strike on berlin? raising the millions of innocent victims from their graves, rejuvenated, to exact their revenge? no, no. the creator of heaven, earth and everything within them would be incapable of this. instead "he" opted for the red army advancing; raping, murdering and pillaging across the various countries in between russia and germany, in much the same way as the germans did it before them while they were advancing, all the while watched, with no intervention for the new round of victims, from "him". and what about others? the murderer of the Fogels... did "he" "get" him, just in the nick of time, turning the knife to the killer's throat, spilling the blood of the wicked before he spills the blood of the innocent. no. "he" did not. it would actually be nicer (and more logical) to accept that there is no "plan" or intervention strategy from "him", because if there is one, then it is a sick and twisted plan and one that you should hope you are not included in.
32. Clarification of my post # 22
Abu Yussef al Yahudi ,   Bue_Aires_Argentina   (06.23.11)
Oops ! - A clarification, my post # 22 is a Reply to the post # 16 written by Nikos of Greece
33. # 20 just workers
J.K. ,   Brooklyn USA   (06.23.11)
Adolph Eichmann was just an employee of the German government.
34. #31 Time factor
Ameridane ,   Aarhus, Denmark   (06.23.11)
If the Russians did to the Germans is what the Germans did to the Russians, there wouldn't be a German nation today. I am not talking about instant help, as you and I know very well since it didn't happen. The point is that Hitler was removed and the reign of terror stopped.
35. september
danny tawil ,   manchester england   (06.23.11)
their is no hope of ever being a palesinian state until you recognise israel. so september will not bear any fruit whatsover. forget it it wont happen.
36. nikos your country is near bankrupt
dovdevan ,   paris,france   (06.23.11)
i think that you should mind the buisness of your own country before insulting "jews" ! we all know that there are pro palestinian as well as historical anti-semite in your country ! israel as a state will defend its cytizen no matter what the world can think about it !
37. 24 NYC
AJB   (06.23.11)
There is really no way I can even start to explain over my miniscule knowledge of G-D and Torah on a YNET talkback, you are very lucky to live in NYC where you have Rabbi Wallerstein, find him and that is where the answers to HOW DOES IT WORK starts, or alternatively don't and never get any answers from a Torah point of view, good luck you beautiful neshama.
38. Taste of own Medicine
Wei ,   China   (06.23.11)
It's like Russia/Putin is getting a taste of own medicine. Great!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
39. #16 ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha haaaaaaa
Talula ,   Israel   (06.23.11)
whoaaa ha ha ha ha ha ha ha haaaaaa I hope you get back safely to your planet - because you sure are not from this one!
40. Russian regime must be destroyed
(06.23.11)
41. Poutine and Medevev are killers
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42. Russian plane crash scientists killed
Beth ,   Maryland, USA   (06.23.11)
Appropriate justice for intellectuals who used their talents for evil.
43. Iran / energy
Hamishim Agora ,   _   (06.23.11)
Iran sits on natural resources beyond anything it could need. Nuclear technology is only needed for improving their bullying/negotiating position vis a vis becoming the Superpower in the Middle East.
44. Quietly, quickly and neatly.
papi ,   Israel   (06.23.11)
45. It is in fact sad ...
John ,   Alaska   (06.23.11)
It is sad when anyone dies, so I do bid condolences to the families of the five men who were helping Iran in its march toward building horrific bombs they would have used to murder Jews. That said, I have no doublt that this was an Act of G-d, with all that this implies. Perhaps others who are tempted to help murder Jews will be wise and repent.
46. Hell can't run on fumes. It needs firewood
toga ,   n/a   (06.23.11)
That means nuclear power. And you need nuclear scientist to build the power to run hell and especialy if you want a hot one. So nuclear scientist who build for terrorist just got demoted to their new jobs forever. Some like it hot.
47. No. 37 AJB
NYC Girl   (06.23.11)
You're really very kind. Seriously, because somebody else might have excoriated me for my atheism. But I'm still an unapologetic Zionist...although I have to admit to having spent too many years of my errant youth on the far left of the political spectrum...not unlike a lot of Jews. Unfortunately, though, some of them still haven't grown out of it.
48. #10 Huh?
John ,   Alaska   (06.23.11)
The five men were not Arabs, "Palestinian" or otherwise. They were Russians. Much like Esau, you have forfeited your birthright, and you are trying to appropriate someone else's. As to your bid for your own kingdom, I read in the Scriptures that you will be disappointed. That's the Word of God. It trumps the will of allah every time.
49. To #11 Very Good Question
John ,   Alaska   (06.23.11)
I don't have the answer. I do see that Theodicy in the context of the Shoah is something that much wiser people than I have argued about a lot. But really, I don't understand it. I do trust in HaShem though. There isn't anyone else to trust in, and He has done good for Am Yisrael.
50. dagan and iran
alexi   (06.23.11)
dagan was very good as a specialist inmossad on the iran file. And that is it. He is a specialist who is not good at other things much as olmert was lousy on security and hostages while he excelled at taking cash in evelopes according to lador, which he now denies. dagan retires and opines about an attack on iran saying it would be foolhardy as israel is not yet fully protected from islamic missiles. That was true under olmert and livni but less true under yaalon bibi and liberman because iran knows weakling are not in power. WAnd if 10,000 die in tel aviv, one million in teheran will be burned into toast so they might think twice. Ambiguity as barak said is helpful and dagan was wrong to remove it. Finally 67 borders and the saudi plan stink period. A new definition is required. Oslo, peres, livni, olmert, ben ami, beilin-these days of begging for peace are over. Dagan sounds like meretz.
51. They must have pissed off Iranian Revolutionary Guards
Marco ,   Spain   (06.23.11)
The level of incompetence, laziness and sabotage in these nuclear plants are incredible. Iranians are trying to find scapegoats. A few months ago they executed 2 of the top Iranian nuclear scientists they suspected and since the sabotage continued they proceeded to murder the Russian Nuclear scientists helping them. This also perfectly fits the way Iranian Revolutionary Guards operate to get rid of undesirable people inside and outside Iran.
52. To: Marco at No. 51
Sarah B ,   U.S.A. / Israel   (06.23.11)
Not so sure about that. These are the guys that are responsible for reinstalling the rods at Bushehr (which have still not been replaced) and running the centrifuges at Natanz (arguably the most important nuclear installation in the Islamic Republic), which remain non-operational, spinning wildly out of control, likely because of Stuxnet. Why would they shoot themselves in the foot like that? Now they have no one, and Iranians have not been able to attend university in the West for a long time, so the level of knowledge and practical experience necessary simply does not exist anywhere in Iran. No, I think there is a far more likely candidate ....
53. #10 Hakim
shmulke ,   w coast, USA   (06.23.11)
Must be some good hashish the Bedouins are selling you. These scientists were Russian and didn't have squat to do with "Palestine".
54. This is MOSSAD killings, Russia should shame to allow Israel
Tayfun_Turkey ,   Istanbul   (06.23.11)
to run such killing operations in Russia to kill Russian Scientists. Russian President is a zionist oriented person and he is the main responsible from this killings.
55. To: No. 11 and No. 49
Sarah B ,   U.S.A. / Israel   (06.23.11)
Well, He didn't get Vespasian or any of the monarchs that expelled the Jews from their respective places of abode in Europe, He didn't get Torquemada, or Chelmnicki, or the Russian Cossacks either (may all their names be cursed throughout eternity). Then again, do you think there would be a modern State of Israel if He had gotten Hitler (may his name be cursed throughout eternity)? Frankly, I'm not that sure. The British issued their famous White Paper locking all Jews out of Palestine because the British wanted to appease the Arabs, so they could continue freely using the oil. Interesting subjects.
56. we all know who is behind this the FSB
dovdevan ,   ashdod,paris   (06.23.11)
they have to find a way to tell the iranian that the job is not done so they will find any excuse even by killing their own cytizen
57. ANKARA Is behind this attack with islamo fascist IHH
coke eye ,   coney island   (06.23.11)
they don't want chiaa muslims to get the nuke ! turkish governement wants to dominate the world they are nostalgic about the ottoman empire
58. No. 54, Mossad doesn't use crude methods of mass murder
Marco ,   Spain   (06.23.11)
This is the specialty of Imperialist Ottomans, Iranians, Arabs, Chinese and Russians. Mossad inserts STUXNET into Iran's nuclear plant systems to elegantly disable their nuclear program.
59. IF RUSSIAN NUCLEAR REACTOR DESIGN....
Ian ,   Newcastle upon Tyne   (06.23.11)
...is as good as Russian airliner design,we haven't got too much to worry about. THREE CHEERS FOR ISRAEL!!!
60. No, 52 Sarah, I disagree with you
Marco ,   Spain   (06.23.11)
Current Iranian regime is crazy, irrational and unpredictable. When everything goes down the drain they look for any one that is around to blame. It is a frequent recurrence in totalitarian regimes. As an example think of Stalin who murdered the Kulaks and then there was starvation and death in the Ukraine, and then proceeded to murder tens of thousands of experienced top military echelon in 1937 making Red Army useless in the the first 2 years of WW2, then he trusted Hitler with Ribbentrop-Molotov pact which allowed Red Army (among many other things) to attack Finland in a disastrously incompetent military campaign that encouraged Hitler to attack Soviet Union 2 years later. As you see this is just one instance where such regimes make irrational decisions against their own interests. BTW the hero of Finland is Jewish General Manheim who planed the strategy that almost brought the half million fully equipped Red Army with tanks and airplanes to its knees by a band of only 25,000 Finish hunters, fishermen and farmers skiing on snow, sniping from trees, conducting night raids and using almost exclusively antiquated personal rifles. It is kind of reminiscent of Israel's war of independence, the difference being that Israel won decisively against overwhelming Arab numbers because of theirs even greater incompetence than the Red Army.
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