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Abbas headed for disaster
Guy Bechor
Published: 01.07.11, 00:03
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31. 16 William - That was Israel with US Funding
Mark ben Josuf ,   USA   (07.01.11)
The US is about to go into default, worse than the Greeks. US expenses are being cut if and when Congress comes back from vacation to do some actual work.
32. To 24/27 - Discuss Stategy & Tactics
Mark ben Josuf ,   USA   (07.01.11)
You both need to get together and discuss strategy and tactics. Jordan is not likely to cooperate. And the 4-5 million you plan to relocate don't have moving plans. Planning some Treaty changes?
33. Good riddance!
Vlad   (07.01.11)
Better to have an open enemy like Hamas rule and freely fight it, rather than have a "moderate" enemy who denies its complicity, and has the full backing of the world. If the WB falls into anarchy, Israel is safe. If Hamas takes over, then destroy it in a Cast-Lead style operation and create anarchy.
34. All Arab regimes will collapse
Gee ,   Zikron Yaakov   (07.01.11)
They are doing it right now. When it happens we can deport the JORDANIAN citizens back to their own country as international laws state.
35. #2 - and let's hope it happens NOW NOW!
Moragh   (07.01.11)
36. Abdalla @ 6
(07.01.11)
dream on Honey, dream on!
37. ***Sarah***at 24...Abbas reminds me of
Chris Rettenmoser ,   Bayerisch Gmain Germ   (07.01.11)
a worn out Monty Phyton character...oh well...the Marx Brothers at least would have refused him...LOL
38. To Sarah B
Jon ,   Baltimore US   (07.01.11)
Go ahead and try to "repatriate" millions of Arabs out of the West Bank. You will see US support drop so fast your head will spin. Not even AIPAC can justify ethnic cleansing and that is all it is. You cannot rename it and expect anyone else in the world to support you. If you thought other people were trying to "delegitimize" Israel by BDS campaigns, wait unti you see sanctions and embargoes from all over the world when you try this one. If you want to see the state of Israel disappear, repatriating even some of these people will make it happen.
39. #30 Mark bJ THROWS his chicken suit UNDER the bus
CK Tan ,   Singapore, Singapore   (07.01.11)
So Mark ADMITS that he is playing CHICKEN LITTLE with his dire prediction that "Israel will run everything" if the PA disintegrates. Now he CHANGES the focus to WHO is going to feed and clothe the palis (his ORIGINAL answer is "those who live inside pre67 Israel") Well, if the palis need SUCKERS to cough up free & easy money, they can ALWAYS recycle their INVENTED nakba sob-story. The Arab states were NOT stupid to seriously fund a FICTITIOUS people called "Palestinians" and they ARE not about to CHANGE their mind anytime. And since the "brethen" of the palis do NOT care, neither do I. Ditto for Israel.
40. My hope is that
Devorah   (07.01.11)
BLACK SEPTEMBER boomerangs back to Abbas proving, once again, that the universal law of reciprocity favors no one. 11 Israeli athletes murdered at the 1972 Munich Summer Olympics with the financial help of Abbas. May they rest in peace.
41. To John at #38
Vlad   (07.01.11)
Once the PA collapses, the situation will be total anarchy. The economy will collapse, there will be fighting between Palestinian warlords, and the meager standard of living will dramatically drop. Today, 70% of Arabs would leave for compensation, as they find the situation bad enough. Imagine how many will want to leave when it deteriorates. All Israel has to do is offer compensation and at least 90% will pack their bags and leave.
42. The Security Council has nothing to do with creating states
Fedup   (07.01.11)
New states are recognized by other existing states. The Secretary General has to accept deposits of treaty instruments from any entity that the General Assembly labels a state in one of its resolutions. That will allow Palestine to become a member of the International Criminal Court and end the settlement enterprise for good.
43. #32 MARK BJ
BEN JABO ,   ISRAEL   (07.02.11)
Try and get your hands on a firm number of some sort, every time I hear it, it jumps by a million or so I am eagerly awaiting your response to my relatively easy questions Whatsa matta, having a problem coming up with the answers? If you can't answer the questions, you have absolutely no business pretending to advocate for your fictional Palestinian people from the Land of Never Was Those that will be relocated, won't do the planning, we’ll do it for them, they'll be dumped on Jordan's doorstep like the illegitimates they are
44. 43 BJ - What Question?
Mark ben Josuf ,   USA   (07.02.11)
I saw no easy nor any coherent question.
45. #44 MARK BJ
BEN JABO ,   ISRAEL   (07.02.11)
I sent them several times, I guess that Y Net felt they were too involved & over your head I'll simplify it this time around Where as the Capital of Palestine ? Name the last three rulers ? Where can I see some Palestinian Artifacts ? How come Palestine & Jerusalem aren't mentioned in the Koran ?
46. Judea/Samaria are real. Palestine is fictional.
Chaim ,   Israel   (07.02.11)
The U.N. can pass anti-Israel resolutions till it collapses, which will hopefully be soon. It won't change the fact that Judea and Samaria are real and Palestine is fictional. The U.N. has already passed hundreds of anti-Israel resolutions and Israel grows stronger, richer and more wonderful every year. The U.N. loses credibility every year. It is only a matter of time till the U.N. follows the League of Nations into extinction. Palestine is forever fictional.
47. 45 BJ- -Easy Answers
Mark ben Josuf ,   USA   (07.02.11)
Capital - Currently, Ramallah Last 3 rulers - Abbas, Bush II (rewrote their basic law & designed gov), Arafat) Artifacts - Ramallah, Bethlehem, Jerusalem's Mt Moriah. In Quran? - Unknown Inca and Cortez not mentioned either, nor is Indonesia, the biggest Muslim state.
48. #6 Pals will get Jordan...
Martin ,   New York   (07.02.11)
Jordan is the Arab Palestinian State since 1922..Hashemites are British implant, read the history books.
49. It will be disaster for both PA & Israel also bad for US
B-scot ,   Dallas, Texas   (07.02.11)
The PA could lose the most or gain the most long term but it very risky for all sides. US support is no longer rock solid with the growing influence of China and Brazil on the world stage. One of the PA main goals is to get access to the ICJ and ICC courts which could be a disaster for Israel. I see none of the primary parties winning in this, just some losing more than other in the short term.
50. #37 Rottenlooser a question
jim ,   uk   (07.03.11)
what are you talking about
51. #47 MARK BJ - Get an umbrella
BEN JABO ,   ISRAEL   (07.03.11)
I answered all of your nonsense, except one item, in a post i made 5 mintues ago What I overlooked was your claim to Ramallah being the Capital of your fictional Palestine Just to let you know tht your leaders claim their Capital is in East Jerusalem, which of course will never be Be a good little tyke, Google Capital of Palestine, show me wher eit say's Ramallah
52. 51 Try Again BJ
Mark ben Josuf ,   USA   (07.03.11)
I am a realist, BJ. Ramallah is where it currently is. Maybe your post will make it up, maybe not. Haaretz took down a post where I called Hamas Idiots and right wing religious wackos, yesterday. That apparently was too extreme for for Haaretz. Maybe your comments were too extreme for Y-Net?
53. #8: Wrong! The Jewish people created Israel
Yitzhak ,   Israel   (07.03.11)
The reason Arabs and their supporters have failed against Israel for sixty decades plus is their utter failure to understand that Israel is not some artificial creation of the "imperialist" West. Rather, Israel was created by the will and energy of the Jewish people. We don't need a state just because. We built our state because we were powerless everywhere, discriminated against in both Europe and the Muslim world. The final straw was the Nazi genocide against us, with active support from many in the Arab world, including Palestinian leadership. We are powerless no more, and anti-Semites don't like that. Too bad.
54. don't bet on Barack...
aaron ,   ny, ny   (07.03.11)
...Obama, I don't think he will pass up the opportunity to establish a Palestinian state. He will not want to go down in history as a president who emphatically said "no" to the palestinians.
55. "Palestinians"
Larry B. ,   Carmichael, USA   (07.15.11)
The "Palestinians", at least most of them, are "Edomites" who came originally from Jordan. The name "Palestine" was given to this area by the occupying Romans of the B.C./A.D. era. Perhaps their Jordanian "brothers" can make some space in their vast land area for a "Palestinian State"? I'm not holding my breath waiting for this, as Jordan has steadfastly refused for 63 years to make room for these people, their brethren.
56.  NO 30 NO NEED TO EXPELL THEM THEY ARE AT THE OTHER SIDE .
Saul of Tarsis   (07.16.11)
OF THE WALL, WE JUST HAVE TO FINISH CLOSING THE GAPS. AND THEY CAN DO WITH THAT A LAND A STATE OR A NON STATE OR A FEDERATION WITH JORDAN WHO CARES.
57. #3 is Right. Obama will Betray You
Greycoat ,   Tampa, FL   (08.27.11)
"and the United States already made it clear in the most explicit way that it would impose a veto on a unilateral Palestinian move" Yes but Obama is a betrayer. Obama is not a Christian. His heart is with Islam. If it serves his purpose, even as he and his Marxist and Muslim ilk in the U.S. destroy the U.S., they will betray you. Obama is a liar, a deceiver, an apostate, and a narcissistic fraud. The majority of "We the People" in the US are with you, minus Obama, the liberal leftist Marxist Jews (most of them), liberal leftist Marxist Gentiles, and the Islamists in this country who are helping Obama destroy us here.
58. To Sarah B: I just love your comments. Keep them up!
Greycoat ,   Tampa, FL   (08.27.11)
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