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Haredi families live in warehouses, garages
Kobi Nahshoni
Published: 26.07.11, 14:21
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1. charedi housing
jack ,   jerusalem israel   (07.26.11)
your article is full of incorrect facts,\ here's one: mottesdorf and minchat yitchok are extremly expensive neighborhoods, much more than har nof. CHECK YOUR FACTS
2. #1
C.C.   (07.26.11)
If ynet's facts are incorrect, do you have another suggestion for them to be able to bash haredim?
3. Underground parking lot area? That's dangerous
William ,   Israel   (07.26.11)
Being underground, especially near a parking lot, is extremely dangerous for young bodies. I worry about the toxic fumes, like carbon monoxide, from the parking lot. The housing crisis is a real epidemic that needs to be addressed on the same threat level as national security.
4. housing
devorah   (07.26.11)
We live in a new apartment complex in a haredi neighborhood in givat shaul. an owner of one the apartments here has turned his underground parking spot and storage room into an apartment. he is currently renting it out for 3000 Nis a month! i was actually in this apartment and it has no windows and for sunlight they open up their front door to get air from the garage. I also just noticed that someone else has made their parking spot into an apartment. looks smaller though.
5. #4 Why dont you report this
Israeli grandma   (07.26.11)
illegal and dangerous rental to the Municipal inspectors and/or the police or social services?. Poor children living in the poisoned air supply. We also have an illegal machsan conversion into an "apartment" like a prison cell, where I live, it has been connected up to a water meter and electricity, and if children were living there I would not hesitate to report it to the authorities.
6. They could always go get a job
Haim ,   TA   (07.27.11)
Oh i see they have 10 kids, dont work then expect my tax money to pay for this so called life style. Sorry but cry me a river , they only have themselves to blaim. Great view from my new Penthouse i must say.
7. Move to Detroit!
Haredi Who Works ,   Dearborn, MI, USA   (07.27.11)
There are beautiful homes here, a 4-5 bedroom house with a yard can be purchased very cheaply. The garage is larger than most Israeli apartments! Nice Jewish neighborhood and good schools.
8. LIVING UNDERGROUND
YAACOV ,   JERUSALEM   (07.27.11)
i AM ONE OF THOSE CHAREDIM WHO SERVED IN THE IDF AS WELL MY SON THAT IS LIVING IN A SPACE DUG OUT UNDER SOMEONES APARTMENT AND I AM PAYING 4,000 NIS PER MONTH FOR LESS THAN 40 SQUARE METERS ALL BECAUSE I CANT AFFORD TO BUY AN APARTMENT AT TODAYS PRICES AND DONT THINK I EVER WILL. WHY ARE THERE NOT RENTAL BUILDINGS AS THERE ARE IN ALL WESTERN COUNTRIES. EVERY CITY OVERSEAS HAS APARTMENT BUILDINGS WHERE ONE CAN RENT AT AFFORDABLE PRICES. ALSO WHY DOES NOT THIS COUNTRY HAS A RENTERS BILL OF RIGHTS LIKE OTHER COUNTIES. EVERYONE SHOULD HAVE AN OPTION TO BUY OR RENT! WHY HAS THE APARTMENT BUILDING NOT BEEN ABLE TO FUCTION HERE!!! I HAVE BEEN HERE SINCE 1976 AND HAVE BEEN FORCED TO MOVE AT THE END OF MY LEASES SINCE THE RENTS ARE INCREASED SO MUCH. THIS IS A NATIONAL DISGRACE!!!
9. They don't allow inspectors & the municipality doesn't...
Orly ,   Jerusalem, Israel   (07.27.11)
...send them by force. They also don't pay arnona and the municipality doesn't go after them by sending in collectors or freezing bank accounts. Some live below the ground like sewer rats, yet they all live above the law.
10. #6
Tamar ,   Jerusalem   (07.27.11)
I really don't think that someone who doesn't work and have 10 kids can afford paying 3000 or 4000shekel per month without getting work.Not all the haredi are not working...And even if they don't, the rent is not going to be less high.I am paying 3500 shekel to my apartment and my salary for month is 4000 shekel.So, mister, before you make a comment about haredim you should know that the point is not if they work or not.The point is no normal, regular person in this country, haredi or not, working or not, can afford renting an apartment not to speak about buying one.How many children someone has is nobody's bussines!
11. Haredi Rent Gougers and Overcrowding...
Dave ,   Jerusalem   (07.27.11)
The housing situation in some of the Haredi areas of Jerisalem is scandalous. Some Haredi familes are being charged outragously high rents for hovels. This is rent gouging at its worst. What kind of 'Haredi' would cheat another Haredi? It is quite common to have 10+ persons livng in an apartment designed for 5 persons like you would find in some Third World slum. This is the reality. Where are the City of Jerusalem inspectors?
12. To number 8
Shimon ,   Poleg   (07.27.11)
Why don't you get a job? I work 3 jobs I provide for my family, why don't you? If you work the money you earn can be used for many things, Check this out!
13. Wow! this is very disturbing
Talula ,   Israel   (07.27.11)
No-one but NO-ONE should be living in an underground parking lot. I cannot believe what is going on in our country right now. I'm assuming that these people do actually work, and even if they don't, they still shouldn't be allowed to live like that with children - it's just plain WRONG!
14. Maale Amos
Tuvia Schertzman ,   Betar Ilit   (07.27.11)
Charedi Yishuv in Gush Etzion easy drive to Jerusalem. Plenty of room to build. Problem is the dictators in charge do not want to build or help their fellow charedim. Homes available at dirt cheap prices
15. Tamar, Talula: Where is FAMILY SIZE PLANNING?
Michael ,   California, USA   (07.27.11)
Haredim should know how to use contraceptives and not have children when there is no room for them. No government can solve problems of families that give birth to so many children so frequently. I feel sorry for children who are growing up in dungeons. The solution is in the "hands" of their parents.
16. and who exactly...
courtney ,   usa   (07.27.11)
is "forcing" them to live there?
17. Israel needs more Jews not less
dave ,   Israel   (07.27.11)
There is something very wrong with anyone who promotes the idea that Jews in Israel have less children rather than more. First of all, every Jewish child is a blessing and secondly, Palestinian women have very large families. Do we want them to overwhelm us with their numbers? If we do not want more Jews then we should place a ban on aliya. Israel was created as a socialist state where the government is supposed to assist in the distribution of wealth and provide care for the needy. Have some Jews forgotten why Israel was created?
18. The religious families without..
ORA ,   JERUSALEM   (07.27.11)
decent housing,would be better off in a religious kibutz.
19. #15 Dumb dumb
Israel   (07.28.11)
Taking contraceptives is against how they see Judiasm. Besides, it has nothing to do with the issue. The matter is that they are living underground in a converted parking lot - leave how many children they out of it.
20. they need pray more - may be moshyah yavo
alex   (07.28.11)
21. if you work for 4000 it is your problem
alex   (07.28.11)
i work for 25000. and if you press me with taxes i will go and you will die, because you are the looser who cannot make a money.
22. 6 Haim What about matching ..
ORA ,   JERUSALEM   (07.28.11)
the view of your mind to that of your penthouse ?
23. How many times...
Chariedi who works ,   Israel   (08.02.11)
...I went looking for work in tel aviv. No one was hiring because I had a beard,or because I wouldn't work on Shabbos, or any number of lame excuses especially in Th Jewish country My friend who served in the army and actually fought in war for this country, gets told to shave his beard or trim his beard so he can be a shomer at a hospitol. I don't understand you people you wine when charredi folks don't work and when they look for work you don't hire them, and don't ask me why I didn't do the army I finnished my pazzam 6 months ago.
24. Illinois is a settlement
abe the babe ,   usa-israel   (08.05.11)
stolen from the Indians. You sir are living on land that invading white European sequestered from its native inhabitants. As to your question concerning religion the left is as dogmatic as any religion and they have their orthodox beleifs. It is they who have set up an unelected court system and an elitist minority that stiffles dissents and advances the goals of Israels enemies. The left is the threat not people who you call settlers but are really returnees to their historical homeland.
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