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Erdogan hints Israel behind leaked tapes
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Published: 17.09.11, 12:15
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1. So, the talks did take place...!!
Jehudah Ben-Israel ,   Qatzrin, Israel   (09.17.11)
2. So Israel is playing a dangerous, irresponsable game!
erdogan ,   Ankara   (09.17.11)
3. CAUGHT AGAIN
Mark from Georgia ,   USA   (09.17.11)
Well, well, caught in another lie, how surprising. So again we have Erdogan blaming Israel for his mistake, how typical. Bottom line, Erdogan said he or his government were not talking with the PKK, a terrorist group. But the recordings prove that was a lie. Erdogans head of Secret Service was talking to the PKK. Now apply the same logic to the flotilla, Erdogan blamed Israel, when the video proved it was the IHH that started the fight. So why would anybody be surprised by a liar, who gets caught lying again?
4. All enemies of Israel
Marek ,   Czech Rep   (09.17.11)
will deepen into paranoia, soon or later
5. #1, Oh well...so much for sure...!
Chris Rettenmoser ,   Bayerisch Gmain Germ   (09.17.11)
6. KING ERDOGAN IS NAKED !! ( End )
Mark ,   T.A. israel   (09.17.11)
7. ANOTHER ERDOGAN BLUNDER !!
Mark ,   t.A. israel   (09.17.11)
HE OPENLY ACCEPTS HE SPOKE AND IMPLORED THE HELP OF CHIEF TERRORIST OCALAN !! WHAT A SHAME FOR A PRIME MINISTER >? !!
8. if proved
anton ,   istanbul turkey   (09.17.11)
that israel is behind this then counter meausres should be taken tit for tat
9. Erdogan
Jorge ,   Israel/USA/Argetina   (09.17.11)
Turkey PM is going nowhere with the policiy of blaming Israel for everything. Ex: He wanted to cut the gas exploration by sending warships = he got involved Greece, EU and Rusia (with submarines in the Mediterraneos). He wanted an aliance with Egypt = he was welcomed as a hero and needed to exit from back door (MB). He wanted NATO involved = NATO got irritated. He wanted an apology = he got disclosed from tapes. He wanted friendship with Gaza = he got Armenians Bulgarians Greeks closer to Israel. Best advise to PM = GROW UP because in politics there is not a "mommy, help me"
10. #8 tit for tat
Eaglebeak ,   Left Coast, USA   (09.17.11)
Turkey should be careful not to get their tit in a wringer. Erdogen has Turkey headed in that direction.
11. maybe i'm missing something here
Arnold ,   Canada   (09.17.11)
Would it not be in both Turkey's and the PKK interest to talk to each other even if behind the scenes? If I read that Bibi was having secret talks with Hamas, I'd be surprised but happily surprised.
12. #8
(09.17.11)
no, my friend. israel may or may not be behind this leak. HOWEVER, it is not israel that committed perfidy here. it is your prime minister who LIED TO THE TURKISH PEOPLE, TO YOU PERSONALLY WHEN HE CLAIMED NO SUCH TALKS EXISTED. IT IS YOUR LYING PRIME MINISTER THAT DID TALK TO THE PKK, AN ORGANIZATION THAT YOU TURKISH PEOPLE CLAIM IS TERRORIST ORGANIZATION. an organization that kills your people and commits terror acts in your country agains you!!! weather israel is involved or not, this is not the main issue here. the main issue is that your prime minister lied! that your prime minister conversed with a terror organization against the wishes and safety of your country and that your prime minister is the one responsible for this perfidy! the only counter measures to be taken by the turkish people is to never trust erdogan, to never believe him again and to realize that he has lied to the islamic republic of turkey and to its citizens. WHAT ELSE HAS HE LIED ABOUT???? COULD IT BE HE LIED THAT HE DIDN'T SEND AND SUPPORT THE MAVI MARMARA???? I BET HE DID, FULLY CONCIOUS OF THE IMPENDING RESULTS AND FULLY CONCIOUS TO PLAN TO EMBARRASSS ISRAEL AND COMPROMISE HER SAFETY AND INTERNATIONAL IMAGE. tit for tat???? yes. go on...bury the republic under a stupid pm. the iranian mullas are playing you like a fiddle, idiot! hameed aboughaze, iranian
13. mr. blowhard megalomania starting to reap what he sows
bernard ross ,   st anns bay, jamaica   (09.17.11)
Israels new defense pact with greece and its gas treaty with cyprus may put the unrecognised turkish puppet govt of north cyprus in jeopardy. a good payback for erdogans courting of hamas, syria and iran
14. #8;anton, THE TRUTH HURTS, HUH?
Mark from Georgia ,   USA   (09.17.11)
Don't get confused as you people so often do. What is the real issue? Israel leaking the tapes? Or that Erdogan lied to his people and was caught? Clearly the latter, is much more relevant to you, and your people. The surprise was Erdogan was talking to the PKK, not who leaked that info! That just confirmed your worst fear, if Israel did leak it, you should thank them. BTW, no proof has been offered to implicate Israel, it's just a baseless accusation at this point, right? Now Erdogan also stated that the Israeli's started the fight with the flotilla incident. But the video's and the Palmer report proved that wrong. So maybe you should be thinking about your leader, the proven liar, rather than revenge against Israel, make sense? Hmm, with you maybe not. Turkey needs more gullible easily misled people like you. People who buy into diversions rather simply.
15. #8 - Anton
Maurice ,   Montreal   (09.17.11)
You should first worry about the liar of a Prime Minister that you have. No matter who leaked this Erdogan has been once again shown to be a liar. Why trust this guy about anything? Unless you are one of his paid cronies.
16. Anton hw could Israel get hold of it?
David Israel ,   New York, USA   (09.17.11)
These talks were between Turkish Government representative (MIT official) and PKK. There was a foreign mediator but knowing the relationship between Israel and Turkey it is impossible that it was Israeli. In that case if this is true who served this video to Israelis? You see before you blame Israel for everything just think a little.
17. "Blame it on the Jew"
A. ,   Istanbul   (09.17.11)
Erdogan talks with PKK terrorists and PKK chief Ocalan. Erdogan accepts that his government secretly makes deals with PKK terrorists. Erdogan does this without the knowledge and confirmation of Turkish people and Turkish opposition parties. But, when Erdogan's secrets and dirty clothes are revealed he blames Israel. "Blame it in the Jew" was/is an old method of European/Christian racists. Now this method is being used by Muslims racists. I pity on people who are ruled by those racist leaders and leaders that secretly deals with terrorists against their own people. Erdogan has taken Turkey to a dangerous and immoral road, but Erdogan's fans are too blinded by Erdogan's lies that their brains are not functioning anymore.
18. #8: Counter measures against the Antisemitism in Turkey
David ,   Karmiel, Israel   (09.17.11)
have already been taken. No tourism and moves to stop importing Turkish goods and products made or assembled in Turkey. Some say the Turks are not Antisemitic but only anti-Israel. If so, then please explain the why the call was "We will bury the Jews" at the soccer match last Thursday? Israel gets blamed for killing 9 terrorists but no one blames Turkey for killing 160 Kurds a few weeks ago! Double standards? Why should the Palestinians get a state when the Kurds can't have one? The Kurds are a nation. The Palestinians are Arabs and not a separate people. The 1947 "Two State" Resolution in the UN was Jordan and Israel and I don't think that Jordan is going to become Palestine in the near future.
19. No 8, Anton, this is exactly why Turkey
Turkish ,   irresponsibility   (09.17.11)
is not accepted by most of the democratic countries because you and so, so many of your countrymen understand the wrong way and are totally unreliable. Instead of saying:"Erdogan committed a crime against the Turkish people by being cozy with PKK and should at least get the hell out of power". you are blaming Israel again for it. This is typical denial syndrome and having fear of taking responsibility.
20. LOL Erdogan bite a grace
Yoav ,   Germany   (09.17.11)
21. yes, as shown in
Ali   (09.17.11)
yes turkey is doing everything for a solution.Turkey wants solution to this just shows.for stop the this blood.Erdogan is doing the right thing.support is already mostly newspapers and and authors.the problem is not negotiation.leakage problem.public re-start talks now says.erdogan hand became more powerful.Why not say no one you meet with him.if who gave the press the,Erdogan helped.We are grateful to providers.not fond of turkey killing.Even if a terrorist be.If they want the same thing,turkey proponent of peace.
22. antisemit
mehrdad ,   germany   (09.17.11)
this crazy guy is the prototype of the islamic antisemit. like 600 years earlier people claimed that jews poison the water and kill christ kids for their blood now this idiot makes jews responsible for everything he messed up. anyone from turkey can answer me why hitlers "mein kampf" is so popular in todays turkey?
23. What's new?
Gregg ,   Haifa, IL   (09.17.11)
Everybody does the same, Israel included ! Israel keeps talking with the PA unofficially... that's not news at all !
24. #8
Peace ,   TLV. ISRAEL   (09.17.11)
We accept the TITS. Refusing the TARTS God be with us all. I think we need you more than ever. peace.
25. conspiracy and delusions
alexi   (09.17.11)
raycep has a management diploma from marmora university. I assume he had numerous courses which he had to study for . And if engaged in idiotic or stupid answers to his exams, then he received a low or failing degree. So he could not afford to screw around. Yet as a product of turkish society, raised in islamic orthodox schools which brainwashed him and commanded by islam to look down on all other faiths except as dzimmis, he fires all kinds of rubbish and garbage, spewing out of his cursed mouth. Yet Obama kisses up to him because he needs turkey strategically. and of course lapid and barnea's man olmert in his ignorance and misjudgement trusted him with israel's security. So, Israel has to be steady and ready, not to react in panic like barak who is head to oblivion in the next election, never to come back.The idf has to be ready to fight if necessary turkey, H & H, iran and the PLO not to mention egypt and syria. Isn't it obvious that with haber, olmert, barak, livni, verter and marcus, israel in no way, no how could be the chosen people. No way could this be. Israel is a fine country with on balance good people but it is not chosen, it should not teach it, and it should strike it from all the books.
26. lies and big mouth
mohson   (09.17.11)
Erdogan is a big mouth, fire spewing demagogue inthe tradition of nasser, ironically both well dressed and groomed and charismatic. Erdogan also has an arabic wife who encourages him in anti israel tirades. Turkey is split right down the middle between the justice party islamists and the secular attaturks. Right now erdgoan has the upper hand. Erdogan has to be careful with israel who will go down fighting everyone if necessary if pushed beyond normal limits. Any turkish move against israel shipping or oil interests will unleash a tremendous response. Raycep be careful with your mouth. Inthe meantime, Barak goes to washington to explore other peace avenues. Who gives a bloody damn what this failed leader does anymore.Idf get ready. Bring back general gallant.
27. Israel needs friends
Josh Finkelstein ,   Usa   (09.17.11)
Israel cannot survive without friends in the middleast. Thank you liberman and Natanyahoo for loosing all our friends . Time will show thaws 2 claimed leaders will cause high records to the Israeli state beyond repair . Theses 2 are the most incompetent leaders Israel ever had.
28. Blame everything on israel
Mishon ,   istanbul turkey   (09.17.11)
How pathetic , even the wise men and columnists start pointing out israel whenever a scandal happens This ideology may be very common to arab countries but is spreading in turkey blaming israel for everything You should not be surprised if turkey would come up with an accusation that mossad have also implanted chips into the officials of turkish intelligence What a waste and bunch of losers!
29. To ANTON !!
Mark ,   T.a Israel   (09.17.11)
ISRAEL HAS NO STATEMAN WHO IMPLORE A TERRORIST !! Your EAVEDROPPERS WILL WAIT TILL THE END OF THEIR LIFE FOR A SUCH A CONVERSATION !!
30. I HOPE MOSSAD SILENCES ERDOGAN ONCE & FOR ALL!
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