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Netanyahu: Palestinians want state without peace
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Published: 23.09.11, 22:49
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1. Belligerent, incendiary hate-fest from Abbas.
DR ,   WALES   (09.23.11)
Abbas made mention of Arafat's speech on the Whitehouse lawn in 1993. Below is an address by PLO leader, Yasser Arafat, to Jordanian TV on 13 Sept 1993, AFTER having earlier that day signed a 'peace' agreement on the Whitehouse lawn with Rabin under the auspices of Clinton and in front of the international press. Abbas, his deputy and successor, was by his side, and in full agreement. What he says today needs to be seen in the context of what has gone before, especially as he selectively omits what Arafat said later. Arafat's words, supported by Abbas were; "Since we cannot defeat Israel in war, we do this in stages. We take any and every territory that we can of Palestine, and establish sovereignty there, and we use it as a springboard to take more. When the time comes, we can get the Arab Nations to join us for the final blow against Israel."
2. THANKS G-D FOR NETANYAHU!
Borislava ,   Sofia, Bulgaria   (09.23.11)
3. GREAT SPEECH BY BIBI NETANYAHU
UW Husky ,   Seattle, WA   (09.23.11)
Makes me proud to be Israeli and an American today. The UN today is a shamefull organization dominated by terrorist supporting and anti-west countries, lies and blatant hypocrisy. Maybe one day these people will be able to stand up for what is right, just and have the courage to do that. Until then we must stay strong. AM ISRAELI CHAI!
4. Theater of absurd, Palestinians want a state
Mikey   (09.23.11)
But don't want to recognize a Israel.
7. is peace good for Israel
Jared ,   Oklahoma   (09.23.11)
Israel is strong, why should she give up anything if no one can force her to. Peace is not good for Israel.
8. Stand-up comedy...
Michael Steiner ,   Bahrain   (09.23.11)
I guess Bibi is following in A7madinejad's footsteps and carving out a career as a stand-up comedian. Give it up, Netanyahu: You're foolin' no-one. This time around Israel--specifically your administration--is the main culprit for the termination of the peace process. Congratulations to the Palestinians!
9. Netanyahu
Lauren ,   Israel   (09.23.11)
Kol hakavod to Bibi for telling the "ugly truth" instead of "politically correct" distortions and lies. It had to be said and he does it so well.
10. Lets celebrate arabs and jews the new palestine
Abu Jihad ,   Al Quds, Palestine   (09.23.11)
arabs and jews should celebrate the new palestine along the 1967 border because it is in the interest of jews as well to end the war. do u really guys want to have wars forever? time for peace Arabs and Peace loving jews must stand together against the settlers who have been blackmailing the israreli public for decades!! In the news palestine,some jews who want to live as law abiding citizens of palestine are very welcome indeed, as for the settlers occupiers, they have no place in palestine God Bless Abu Mazen, we should all pray for him and for the new palestine
11. American way..
nospam   (09.23.11)
..once was not to sell guns and liquor to savages and to punish those who did sell. And that's exactly what Israelis should be doing: no guns and no malignant mullas with loudspeakers, no PLO and no Hamas. Than the problem would have gone away long time ago.
12. Fake and lame...
Mike S ,   Phoenix, USA   (09.23.11)
I mean we have heard this before and we know the real positions of the israeli PM and FM. He proposed to start peace negotiations right away on the UN, really? Respect our intelligence for gods sake.
13. Arabs
michaelpielet ,   boca raton, Israel   (09.23.11)
The arabs have absolutely no right to Palestine. Palestine belongs to the Jews, only.
14. Bibi is our best leader
Judah ,   Golan Heights,ISRAEL   (09.23.11)
He is not perfect but he is a million times better than Livni and the new leader of Labour.
15. Kol HaKavod Netanyahu!
sober leftist ,   Israel   (09.23.11)
Yep! This sober leftist feels that Netanyahu did just fine. Abu Mazan is running real scared now! (not really scared of Netanyahu actually scared of his friends in Gaza, the Hamas, whom he didn't mention...) I suppose we'll have to wait and watch for the next installment in this reality tv series.
16. Delusional and stupid
Mahlon Drumgoole ,   Newark NJ USA   (09.23.11)
It is getting so that it is a waste of time to read or listen to the media. Proof of this staqtement is obvious in the case of Abbas. This is a man who wrote a dissertation that denied the Holocaust. He was a top official under Arafat for decades and supported all of Arafat's policies. In addition, he refuses to recognize Israel as a Jewish State and in this hostile UN speech denies the historic attachment the Jews have to the land. He also demanded control of the places most holy to Israel in Jerusalem and is not prepared to make any compromises or negotiate with Israel and has allied himself with the genocidal Hamas. Unfortunately, much of the media (along with many leftist Israelis) ignore these facts and only see him as a white haired, grandfatherly figure who dresses in a suit instead of Arafat's most loyal followers and a Holocaust denier to boot. Thus, despite his refusal to negotiate and his stubborness and provocative UN speech, he is always described as a moderate. That's like saying that Dachau was a moderate camp compared to Treblinka. For those of you who's need to have hope despite the facts on the ground, continue to be hopeful that somehow Israel will overcome the hatred from Egypt, and Turkey. Hope that Obama really is a friend to Israel and just not lining up Jewish support for the 2012 election, Hope that somehow Iran is prevented from getting the bomb and most of all, hope that one day the Palestinians will get a Martin Luther King like leader who truly wants peace and is able to change the Palestinian culture of hate.
17. #7
Oleg ,   USA   (09.23.11)
Is there a some kind of a poison rain fell in Bahrain, that you've lost your mind? I know one very good psychiatrist, who can help you.
18. Netanyahu's Best Speech Ever
Roger Hudson ,   New York, USA   (09.23.11)
If you haven't watched his speech, do so. And then share it.
19. Netanyahu and Abbas
Delta Vines ,   Imperial, MO   (09.23.11)
I enjoyed Bibi's speech. While listening to Abbas' speech, I noted some mistakes. Israeli's who have protested or defended their land from Arabs raids have been arrested by Israeli IDF. The IDF have dismantled Jewish settlements. Meanwhile, Gilad Shunit is still captive in Gaza. Rockets are launched into Israel daily from Gaza. Recognition of Israel as a Jewish state is denied from Abbas. Palestinians apparently want all of the state of Israel as the Palestinian state, from Mr. Abbas' comments. Mr. Abbas stated he only wants 22 percent of former Palestine. Given that Jordan contains 78 percent of former Palestine, that leaves no land for Israel. Bad math, I guess?
20. Truth?
Ussishkin ,   Tel Aviv Israel   (09.23.11)
He couldn't even tell the truth about his name, which is Mileikowsky. All that BS about the signet ring in the name of Netanyahu was nothing at all to do with him. And as for the rest - his arrogance produced an opportunity to miss an opportunity. All he needed to do without spin and tricks was to announce he was resuming talks - that would have won him genuine applause and not the claps from his groupies and the Republican gallery. But no. He had to lecture ad nauseam spinning paranoia and fear throughout. Thanks Bibi, we'll be paying for your arrogant intansigence for generations.
21. You're a fool, Michael Steiner
Chuck ,   Springfield, IL USA   (09.23.11)
No comment necessary
22. Jews in Israel 24 CENTURIES before Mohammed and 40 centuries
Joe ,   Irvine USA   (09.23.11)
before abbas. Let it go man. You didnt create a PLO after the 6 day war, you created it BEFORE the 6 day war...before the Jews regained Judea (west bank) before Jews regained the Jewish Temple area (East Jerusalem). Your mission is the destruction of the Jewish sovereign state, first by military, and now by media, and narrative. You simply dont want to live with Jewish sovereignty. In your hands Jesus, the Jew, was a settler since he was born and raised in bethlehem.
23. Bibi: this is Jewish precondition before talk
observer ,   Egypt   (09.23.11)
Palestinians should first make peace with Israel and then get their state.
24. Its Time For Less Speeches and More Action
Noah Lev ,   HollywoodUSA   (09.23.11)
What has changed in 64 years the Arab side simply doesn't want Jews in tier midst, no matter G-d gave us Palesine, the Balfoud Declaraton seconded, and 10 wars later in the current history of the region, the Arabs still dont' want Jews on their so-called "holy soil". Like Hitler, they blame Israel for all their ills, ending with the Arab rage. Its Israel they say, the racist, colonial country that caused all this mess. If only Israel were to disappear..everything would be fine and dandy. The Muslims care so macu about the Pals, that until recently, not one dime was allocated out of their oil revenue to aid them. Many Pals offspring are living in camps, in Lebanon and Syria..angry, hostile, delusional about relocating to Israel. Speeches galore. Bibi is inspiring, Abbas is murderous. Bibi wants to build , Abbas desires to burn. Bibi wants compromise for everyones sake, Abbas wants genocide. Abbas gambled and lost. Now its time for Israel to act.. by taking unilatgeral actions, annexing the settlements first. Make Nakba Day criminal. If necessary, arrest PLO leaders. Bring in capial puishment s tarting with Barghouti and that child murderer. Two can play the same game. Israel needs another Dayan, not a wimp like livni.It needs a Ben- Gurion, Shamir,Begin, Sharon and Rabin. It should foster Jordan as the homeland of the Palestinians..even though it should be a Jewish homeland. No more speeches..from now on pro-active action. How many nukes doesAbbas have?
25. Netanyahu Speech
Rich ,   U.S.A.   (09.23.11)
Peace is impossible as long as leaders like Netanyahu continue to lie with impunity. Rocket attacks from Gaza into Israel are far, far fewer and far less destructive than rockets from Israel into Gaza. Furthermore, Palestinian resistance of any kind is a consequence of Israeli theft of land and homes, its brutal and illegal occupation and its unending character assassination of the indigenous people in order to conceal the true nature of Israel's dream of a Jewish state covering most if not all of historic Palestine. Netanyahu's own Likud party platform rejects a Palestinian state and calls for a Jewish state encompassing all of Judea and Samaria. If an Israeli leader has to fabricate and distort reality to make his case then his case is truly eternal conflict.
26. Fizzed and Fizzed
Ben ,   Israel   (09.23.11)
Netanyahu blew it, and basically insulted the U.N. That little Tan he acquired was about the only thing he had going for himself that threw the other Middle Easterners off ethnically, well at least he didn't give us the Abraham, Issac Jacob saga, our ancestor fib. He still wasted Israeli tax payer money with this trip, so I guess he and the Obama will suffer these low ratings for some time to come, maybe they'll start a war somewhere.
27. to #25
Tomas ,   Bsas,Argentina   (09.23.11)
You ignorant. answer me this. SINCE 1948-1967 GAZA, EAST JERUSALEM AND WEST BANK WERE IN EGYPTIAN AND JORDANIAN HANDS. NOW, HOW COME THEY DID NOT CREATE A PALI STATE WHEN THEY HAD ALL THE LAND THEY CLAIM NOW? EASY: THE PLO ESTABLISHED IN 1964. 3 YEARS BEFORE THE 6 DAY WAR. NOW, WHAT PALESTINE WOULD THEY WANT TO LIBERATE, IF THEY HAD ALL THE LAND THAT THEY DEMAND NOW? EASY: THEY WANT THE DESTRUCTION OF ISRAEL SINCE DAY ONE, THAT`S WHY THEY REJECTED THE PARTITION PLAN BACK IN 47 AND BEFORE ARABS ALLIED WITH THE NAZIS JUST LIKE THE GREAT MUFTI OF JERUSALEM MEETING WITH HITLER. SO.. LEARN SOME HISTORY YOU IGNORANT
28. Abbas sounded like a statesman, Bibi pathetic
Daniel ,   Tel Aviv   (09.23.11)
THe world has seen two contrasts today, Abbas speaking for his people very impressively like a statesman, while Bibi is angry, mean and defensive, Look at the body language, bibi lost badly More seriously, I welcome a palestinian state under abbas, if not, then we will have a hamas state in the west bank soon firing rockets on Tel Aviv, what will bibi do then?? Nuke them?
29. Prove Everybody Wrong, Bibi
Mark ben Josuf ,   USA   (09.23.11)
You win this round by default with the US veto. Now, prove Clinton and Abbas wrong. Make a public offer that proves that your government is not ethnically cleansing East Jerusalem of Arabs, Muslims and Christians - than includes legitimate education and citizenship for all residents, automatically. Prove Clinton wrong (and me) by offering a Statehood status that has all the rights and privileges of statehood, with independence and sovereignty and freedom from occupation with specific and defined borders where armed Israelis and especially Israeli troops cannot go without a passport and visa from the Palestine Government. Prove everybody who doubts wrong by abolishing the Israeli control of Palestinian money and taxes and trade. Prove all the doubters wrong by relinquishing control over who is and who is not a Palestinian and who can live in Palestine and where in Palestine they can live. Prove all the doubters wrong by relinquishing control over Palestine's groundwater and their ability to treat their own sewage and desalinate their own water. Prove all the doubters wrong by producing a proposed map of borders showing where Israel ends and Palestine begins and what parts of pre67 Israel you are willing to trade for the conquered land you seized in 67 and are now settling. Do it all publicly to prove to the Palestinians on the street and all us doubters that you are willing to take the heat domestically and are not just BSing for time while you seize more and expand more.
30. 21
Birdi ,   Israel   (09.23.11)
Agreed,so very true.
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