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Bibi won, Israel lost
Orly Azoulay
Published: 25.09.11, 11:05
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31. There is no chance for peace
Gee ,   Zikron Yaakov   (09.25.11)
The Arabs have stated that their goal is ethnic cleansing and genocide. Nothing else matters to them. Bibi declined to accept either. Now the Surrender Now people are upset. Tough! Bibi is not a strong leader - in fact he is an appeasing idiot. He would do far better was a Foreign Minister. He does make great speeches, just lousy decisions. We need a leader that will look out for us. Outsiders have created the problems and made them worse. So long as the world community continues to support the new Nazis stealing our lands there can never be peace.
32. Bibi, as leader of the Likud party,
seadog1946 ,   Arthur Kill, NJ   (09.25.11)
can maintain his position only by strictly adhering to the Likud charter which prohibits the creation/existance of a sovereign Palestinian state west of the Jordan river. Bibi and Likud, in concert with the obviously all powerfull pro-Israel bloc in the US congress and US based lobby groups, will ensure that "Israel the Sovereign and Democratic Nation State of the Jewish People" will retain territorial integrity of the Historic Jewish Homeland between the river and the sea.
33. Full victory means ending
Chaim ,   Israel   (09.25.11)
34. Real victory for Israel means ending "peace process" fraud.
Chaim ,   Israel   (09.25.11)
Bibi and Israel both won, but only a partial victory. Every single goal of the fraudulent "peace process" is disastrous for Israel. These goals include: dividing Jerusalem, trimming Israel's waist to a suicidal 9 miles (15 minute tank ride), rendering Israel indefensible and flooding Israel with hostile Arabs. Bibi made this demonic "peace process" more difficult to inflict on Israel. However, full victory for Israel means ending the dangerous fraud once and for all.
35. Netanyahu won and Israel won
usa   (09.25.11)
The very word Quartet sounds dumb and embarassing and it should be embarassing for the United States to be a part of the Quartet.
36. WRONG.... !!
Jeff ,   USA   (09.25.11)
37. Don't say you didn't hear it from StevieT first
StevieT ,   USA   (09.25.11)
I talked about pyhrric victories, I warned about splitting long term allegiances along party lines, I warned about making neutral Americans take a stand, often to a position not favorable to Israel. The right in Israel is no less rigid and ide;ogical than its counterpart in America. Neither will rule forever, but the damage they are creating may live forever. Think about it.
38. 28. Metzada 2011
Zionist Non-Lefty ,   Bat Yam   (09.25.11)
Pure b/s. They, Obama and the rest of the world is not going to recognise Efrat as legitimate because it isn't. Stop conflating your Greater Land of Israel nightmare with the region or the world recognising Israel. They reocgnise us. We're here. They know we're the JEWISH state, they recognised it willingly or otherwise from the outset. But what they don't and won't recognise is your illegal existence on the other side of the Green Line in someone else's territory and all the speeches protesting and justifying wrong as right, insisting that settlements are not the issue, re-stating the arcane 'we need the strategic depth of the occupied territories', only makes us look weak and scared. And in your case frightened because it is you they all object to and you that is in the way of a deal. And the foilly of it all is that you think that if you and 'Yahu keep bleating the same stuff the rest of the world will stop, and that as they don't they're all anti-Semites. Living where you do, I'd also be frightened, but there's a way to stop that fear. Its not capitulation. It's not betrayal of Jewish anything.
39. No matter what direction you look
Paul ,   Jerusalem   (09.25.11)
another step towards the arrival and leadership of Moshiach.
40. Good article
bartles ,   Chicago, USA   (09.25.11)
By supporting Israel, the US has lost much (money, prestige, friends) and gained only enemies--as in the 9/11 terrorists who listed "US support for Israel" as a reason for their attacks (as mentioned in the 9/11 Commission Report.) So perhaps it's good Bibi has come to power as it allows more and more Americans to see the worse of Israel. And as most Israelis seem happy with their leaders, the American people will learn continuing to support Israel will bring nothing but misery. Israel has few friends in the world, and with the US choosing to take a back seat in "peace" negotiations out of frustration with Israel, Israel will find itself increasingly isolated in the world. Which brings up the real loser in all this: the many good Israeli people who seek an honest peace with the Palestinians that gives them a viable state and much of the land currently being occupied by Israel.
41. Bibi Won; Israel Lost
andream ,   Jerusalem, Israel   (09.25.11)
nonsensical article from start to finish
42. Israel lost i agee but where did Bibi win?
Eli ,   Rishon Le zion   (09.25.11)
If you judge by who spoke better english yes Bibi won. If you judge by weather Israel is less isolated, better understood or supported the answer i/m afraid is the opposite.
44. shoudl also so to leftist who are so out of touch with reali
ralph   (09.25.11)
reality its amazing they do not trip over their own shoelaces.
45. Obama is no fan of Israel no matter what
Mordechai   (09.26.11)
If Obama were to win a 2nd term and not have to worry about re election he would follow his minister and do everything to destroy Israel no matter what Israel does now. The good news is Obama has no chance of winning re election. Americans have realized he is a fool. He can't even get a democratic elected in NY state anymore.
46. #8 MARK BJ
BEN JABO ,   ISRAEL   (09.26.11)
If you're going to quote him, at least spell his last name correctly, it's KING U.S. is SUPPOSED to leave Iraq, it has never been in Libya, merely supplied air cover to NATO U.S. also said it would be out of Gito before the end of Obama's first year in office, it's still there, now they're saying by the 2012 elections, we'll see One thing you can look forward VETO from the USA rots of ruck
47. Strange analysis
Keith ,   Eureka, CA   (09.26.11)
It appears to me that Obama never really wanted to stand in support of Israel and that his half-hearted deference to Jewish votes in NY and FL is the only reason he appears to side with Israel. This is a situation of Obama's creation, now with the Quartet in the drivers seat he no longer needs to compromise his principles (support of the Palestinians).
48. always
(09.26.11)
be with yourselfe before asking the others to be with you .. i think nitinyahue was not
49. Facile "analysis"
Alan West ,   Toronto, Ontario   (09.26.11)
I can't believe Ynetnews even publishes this facile drivel masquerading as 'analysis'. Obama is almost as great a disaster for Israel as he has been for the USA! The less he has to do with middle eastern affairs the better for Israel. Israel can take its chances with the Quartet--and if what Russia demands isn't to its liking, better for Israel to be seen to be thumbing its nose at Russia, than the US.
50. Azoulay not even close. Does she even read Ynet?
Brian Cohen ,   Judean Peoples Front   (09.26.11)
Ok, granted the story just came out now, but Azoulay should have done her homework. She writes that ..."Should Obama be elected for a second term in office, and the chances of it aren’t bad..." Yet here is Ynet (her employer) writing today that Obama's rating is the worst ever. http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4128190,00.html But that's just the Jewish vote. Obama's rating is around 40%, the lowest in decades for any president. His chances of getting re-elected are close to that of a snowball surviving on the beach in Eilat in July.
51. U.S. out of there
dangan ,   ireland   (09.27.11)
I am happy to see the U.S. withdrawing from involvment. It was sad to see a country historically committed to self determination selling its integrity so cheaply. Stand back, America, let those not yet compromised deal with the problem
52. ISRAEL'S LOSS!!!!
al mann ,   Jerusalem, Israel   (09.28.11)
Israel has been losing for quite a long time when its people refuse to recognize who watches over them and has taken care of them for thousands of years. There is nothing new in that the nations of the world are against the people of Israel. How many thousands of years have they attempted to destroy the people and failed. Why do the people of Israel refuse to see the facts, the reality. Its leadership should see it too by internalizing that history. How long is this blindness going to rule? ISRAEL!!!! WAKE UP!!!!
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