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Report: IAF jets circled over Turkish ship
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Published: 30.09.11, 13:03
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1. Very dangerous: Turkish Air space is NATO airspace.
Ibrahim ,   Turkey   (09.30.11)
2. Well, Turkey ....
Sarah B ,   U.S.A. / Israel   (09.30.11)
Stick to the Aegean. Don't mess in our turf, because we will mess back and you will come out a sad second best. Do not try our resolve. You will not like the outcome. Remember the MAVI MARMARA? Think we can't bring a world of hurt to you? Think again.
3. An Israeli Flotilla to northern Cyprus?
Jonathan ,   London/ Israel   (09.30.11)
I am sure it was completely humanitarian in nature...
4. Wow - turks can build ships - amazing !
Who cares   (09.30.11)
5. A Misinformation
Gl ,   Istanbul   (09.30.11)
Turkish Papers gave this news with remarks of "According to a Greek Cypriot Newspaper...." and ynet says "according to Turkish papers..." The source of this, is a Greek Cypriot paper. And Turkish Armed Forces said that this news is just fiction. There is not any israeli Jet flying near Turkey. I think the G/C's liked the idea..
6. 2
anton ,   istanbul turkey   (09.30.11)
Dear sarah you are all talk :) just know that these planes were not in violation of turkish air space or else they would be shot down :) i would really like to see your resolve personally :)
7. Anagram
John ,   Utrecht, Holland   (09.30.11)
Recep Tayyip Erdogan: Adoring a creepy type * * Ahmadinejad?
8. correct journalism
Ali   (09.30.11)
news,the Turk newspaper does not belong.This article is an excerpt from greek cyprus newspapers.(Turkish jets lie for a few days ago there was a similar)mockingly gave the news that newspaper(turk).also denied by the turkey.Open Greek newspapers ,Greek Cypriot newspapers full of war scenarios.sometimes does not believe the writings themselves.
9. northern Cyprus considered Turkish???
Yael Schlichting ,   Raubling - Germany   (09.30.11)
Only the Turkeys consider this piece of Cyprus a land of the Turkeys! Turkeys occupied northern Cyprus in violation of international law! They helped to ethnically cleans northern Cyprus from Greek Cypriots and settled lots of Turkeys from Anatolia there so that in case of a re-unification of the both parts of Cyprus, the Turkeys no longer would be a minority. At the end, this is the reason, why the peoples of the Greek part voted against a re-unification. Turkey is fighting for it's southern shore. If you look at the map, you easily see, that it has almost no economic zone. locked in between Greece, Cyprus and Syria, it has no big off shore economic zone and this is the main reason, why Turkey got involved. While others are drilling for gas and oil, Turkey has almost nothing. This is an unbearable situation for a former colonial power. Being embedded in NATO, Turkey cannot act freely. On the other side, its NATO allies feel trapped between a rock and a hard place with a partner like this. The actual problem is, that many partners in NATO aren't able to openly say what they want. The softies from Europe are good in wanting gain without pain. They don't have real goals or visions. Their only vision is to be left alone, have the maximum security and the maximum trade surplus with a minimum of investment. In Europe they didn't get the message, that Turkey has unveiled it's hostile attitude!
10. Turkish military did not confirm the incidence.
Istanbul   (09.30.11)
There are enough reckless and stupid politicians on both sides, there is no need for irresponsible journalism to make things even worse between the two countries. This news report was false as Turkish authourities stated.
11. #1 NATO attack Israel... Really getting away with yourself
(09.30.11)
????Are you OK hunny bunny???? I've read a few of your comments lately...an idiot with a PC. NATO will not attack Israel EVER..go back and have some more nagila...its good for your fantasys.
12. Ibrahim kardes
David Israel ,   New York, USA   (09.30.11)
Only Turkey and Pakistan recognize the KKTC. Non of the NATO countries recognize it neither the Arabstates That Erdogan supports recognize it. Azerbeycan, Palestinians and Hamas they all support Greece in that conflict. In 1974 whenTurkey invaded Cyprus was the legal guarantor no country supported Turkey in fact USA imposed an embargo to Turkey which wa lifted decades later with the help of Israel.
13. #1 Israel is an associate to NATO
Jorge ,   Israel/USA/Argentina   (09.30.11)
Stop listening to the propaganda of your clown PM. Since his administration, you have nothing except less friends in ME
14. Well Sarah ....
Uri ,   Siberia   (09.30.11)
Easy for you to be all brash and all that - you will be safely tucked away in the States not having to worry about getting hurt here. Don't be naive, it may well be that Israel would probably win most battles and maybe even the war (considering the USA would likely join against Turkey - despite NATO, etc) but a LOT of damage would be done on the ground in Israel, and a lot of people would die and be hurt ... in addition, let's not even mention the opportunity given to all of Israel's foes surrounding it; I would think that both Hezbollah and Hamas may just try their luck and do some damage of their own ... you may just end up with a Pyrrhic victory. Israeli generals should be careful and make sure they are not the ones provoking justifiable retaliations - I mean, everybody would totally understand it if Israel would shoot down Turkish warplanes threatening/hovering over its (disputed) territory and the same would apply if it was the other way around, don't you think?
15. It is either usual IAF pass everybody is accustomed to
leo ,   usa   (09.30.11)
over the years or it weren't IAF or IAF got lost some how, which is every much doubtful.
16. Israel shooting down Turkish jets would cause a big hoo-ha!
michael redbourn ,   Arad Israel   (09.30.11)
17. Turkey rich
Sam M ,   UK   (09.30.11)
Great news....This means that the legendary IAF is filling up its target bank which is now 'Turkey Rich'! One day erdogan may have to match his aggressive rhetoric with actions and i dont fancy his chances! Turkey has a very large military but is technologically not in the same league as Israel.
18. Ibrahim, Anton, GI A
David Israel ,   New York, USA   (09.30.11)
1. Ibrahim: NATO does not recognize KKTC nor any other country in the world except Pakistan. Therefore NATO does not consider KKTC as NATO territory. In 1974 when Turkey invaded N Cyprus as the legal guatanteur of the Island but the world including the Arabs and teh Palestinian PLO all supported Greece, USA imposing a crippling embargo to Turkey that was lifted years later with Israeli help. 2. Although the news was originated from a Cypriot source Hurriyet picked it up immediately and I read it there yesterday on my iPhone on my way back home from work. Israeli press did not mention it until Hurriyet had it on its Web Site as a main article. 3. #10 you are correct there are many reckless politicians and irresponsible journalism on both sides. I remember in June 1974 after the news of makarios being shot Hurriyet putting articles on its forst page and even publishing second editions in the afternoon provoking the invasion of Cyprus to the extent that the public opinion was made to invade Cyprus and Turkish government (PM Ecevit at that time) had no choice but start the war which started terribly when Turkish jets sunk 1 and shot two other of its own navy ships. People af my age who lived those days might remember that many called it the war that Hurriyet started.
19. 2 - Made a jerk of yourself again ,...
split ,   US   (09.30.11)
20. NATO TERRITORY?
tony ,   nigeria   (09.30.11)
To #1: NATO or US or Russia or China, just name it, cannot stand Israel in a battle, if and when Israel has a right standing with God. It is God that fights their battles - fighs for them. Their jets against Israel will disappear mysteriously or crash land, their warships will sink mysteriously, their personnel will die/perish mysteriously. The Almighty God will send an Angel to destroy whatever arsenal they gather to fight against Israel. From Egypt to Canaan, and even as a tiny nation, God has always fought for them. In 2 Kings 19:35: And it came to pass that night, that the angel of the LORD went out, and smote in the camp of the Assyrians an hundred fourscore and five thousand: and when they arose early in the morning, behold, they were all dead corpses. How I pray Israel will return to God and let Him fight your battles for you as of old.
21. #2 Have you seen a psychiatrist recently?
Robert ,   Australia   (09.30.11)
You are in urgent need of treatment.
22. Turkey is playing with fire: looking for war
(09.30.11)
before its internal economic problems hit it. Turky insolvability is much worse than Greece as a result of cheap loans provided by the Erdogan government to the electorate. Now, when those loans must be paid, nobody can. This will create an atmosphere just as in Greece, but Turkey can still hide the bank and solvability problems only because it's not part of EU. Erdogan saw this happening - that's why he did not pursue Turkey EU membership anymore. That's why he invented reasons and launched in a long chain of provocations against Israel. He hopes that Muslim/Saudi money will save him - that's not coming because the Saudis are not stupid. Then he hoped that his links with Arab states will bring him more business. That's not coming either. Then he hopes that by inciting to war against Israel, the Turkish people will not be busy learning why his reckless elections economy brought Turkey to its knees. Problem is that he has no clue what a war or armed conflict with Israel will bring. He thinks that the US monitoring stations and Incirlic Air base protect him from US pressure. Well, he's wrong. US has learned that Turkey is not a reliable ally anymore - THANKK YOU ERDOGAN - and already looking for backups and alternatives. Any way you look at it, Erdogan is a dead duck and he knows it. All Israel has to do is wait for the economy in Turkey to explode, and be careful not to fall into Erdogan traps. Israel has to strengthen its strategic ties with Greece and Romania and have Turkey under surveillance, letting NATO and the US know what its red lines are. If Turkey provokes Israel towards an armed conflict, NATO will sit tight, because it does not provide any support for NATO members which INITIATE conflict. Turkey alreadyu declared war on Israel by supporting the attempt to breach a legal blockade (according to the UN Palmer report of which Erdogan was so afraid of). So basically, Israel can react to any Turkey provocation in any way it sits fit, while Turkey will not enjoy the protection of NATO.
23. Erdogan will fall with the first Turkish jet downed by IAF
(09.30.11)
24. Erdogan, IS REALLY IS THE NUTCASE
Mark from Georgia ,   USA   (09.30.11)
Whether that incident really happened, is a big maybe, and probably didn't, if Israel is truly denying it. As far as the deal between Greek Cyprus and Israel, well that's a done deal, and a case closed. It was an inked deal quite a while ago, and I believe Lebanon concluded a deal with Greek Cyprus where the maritime borders were already defined. If fact Lebanon inadvertently dealt themselves out of the Gas business, pretty funny when you think about it. That issue is probably what all this is about anyway.
25. #7 A Jihad Ma End - A Jehad Damn I
michael redbourn ,   Arad Israel   (09.30.11)
26. ERDOGANS' PROVOCATIONS
LAWRENCE ,   SAFED ISRAEL   (09.30.11)
This crazy man has been provoking Israel for some time now. Israel will defend its people and its interests have no doubt about that .This incident was a warning nto Turkey and they would be well advised to give israeli warplanes and boats and gas drilling ships a wide berth.
27. islamic government of turky
viva ataturk ,   occupied cypres   (09.30.11)
We are heading for war with turky like it or not.. this will result in the end of turky as a nato member and any futur it thought it had with the eu.... When islam gets into government this awlays happens and only a movement back a secular governmnet can save turky....
28. Very dangerous
Binjamin ,   Asia   (09.30.11)
Very dangerous for Turkey: Cyprus airspace and waters is EU airspace and waters!
29. "considered turkish territory"???
courtney ,   usa   (09.30.11)
by whom? nobody except turkey
30. actually from greek cypriot paper
truth ,   toronto   (09.30.11)
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