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Gov't mulls deeming far-Right violence 'terror'
Aviad Glickman
Published: 14.12.11, 14:03
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1. Gov't Mulls "Far Right" Violence...
Rachel   (12.14.11)
How about the government put a stop to the destruction of Jewish homes and synagogues and go after the real terrorists who are trying to wipe us off the map! Idiots...
2. Better the hell ....
Sarah B ,   U.S.A. / Israel   (12.14.11)
... declare Zoabi and Tibi and the rest of that rotten ilk terrorists. How far over can you bend before you break?
3. What's next?Killing Jews by Muslims deemed "murder" in Syria
tom ,   tel aviv   (12.14.11)
4. I agree with the mayor, the govt, and the IDF
Ypip ,   Canada   (12.14.11)
Zero tolerance for such acts.
5. Terrorists seems to get out of jail quickly
Fred ,   Jerusalem   (12.14.11)
Are we sure Ne'eman knows what he is doing?
6. Terrorism
Ed Codish ,   Pardessiya, Israel   (12.14.11)
Because the acts of those Jews who burn mosques, attack IDF units, and instigate border incidents are ideological in origin, and because the ideas behind the illegal actions are justified by reference to that ideology, they are terrorist actions. Calling them vandalism, revenge, or anything else is to mitigate very dangerous crimes. The state (and only the state) is justified in using force, even lethal force if necessary, to stop such terrorists. Ed Codish Pardessiya
7. Hey, Yo! All you Tzaddikim, cool it! So what ? Somebody got
tom ,   tel aviv   (12.14.11)
carried away, big , friggin' deal! When one has big demonstrations (for or against something) police hit on the demonstrants, demonstrants hit back, skulls get cracked and nobody screams in hysteria! Barak, take a cold shower & get another job... it was what it was and nothing more. I fear though, that the Witch-hunt is already on !!!
8. #1 Rachel, how about the far right obeying the law.
Mike ,   Raanana Israel   (12.14.11)
If not simply leave, Gaza, Syria, Iran among many other place on earth share the same goals and ambitions as you.
9. #8, get a lid. Your home is next.
Miron ,   USA   (12.14.11)
10. right step in right direction.
Jew1 ,   Ashdod   (12.14.11)
11. Cannot understand
Moshe Guirnstein ,   Tel Aviv   (12.14.11)
Comments by Sarah B. today in some leftists newspapers is a huge success in number of thumbs up, by here they seem to be so conservative.
12. explores
colin``   (12.14.11)
Instead of the government exploring the cause of the fights with the pioneers let them EXPLORE THE CAUSE OF THE DISTURBANCES. like the policy of the cowardly groveling backbiting barak,
13. PM, Barak, Ministers
Ariel Ben Yochanan ,   Kfar Tapuah, Efraim   (12.14.11)
B"H - PM, Barak, ministers, IDF are just covering their back-sedes with tough talk. They don't want to admit they are responsible for major mistakes in handling Jews in Israel.
14. Demolish Migron NOW! show the settlers who is boss!!!
Demolish Migron NOW! ,   David   (12.14.11)
The state of Israel should put its foot down!! Instead of contemplating whether to evict Migron in March or not, evict and demolish that settlement today, show the settlers they can't have their cake and eat it too!! Surprise them, show up tomorrow morning with 3,000 IDF soldiers and Israeli Police and tear that settlement down. Settlers commit all these terror attacks (price tag attacks) in order to discourage the IDF from removing their illegal outposts, thus the Israeli govnt should take the initiative and show them who's boss!! for every price tag / terror attack tear down an illegal outpost
15. #6
israel israeli ,   tel aviv   (12.14.11)
When did a Jew burn a mosque? Although everyone accuses the Jews, in every case (like Tuba-Zangaria) it is eventually proven that it was Arabs. As for lethal force: you are calling for shooting stonethrowers? I agree, but why have you been silent for the past 25 years when Arabs were attacking Jewish civilians and not armored soldiers? And what about Bilin and Naalin where Leftist Jews attack soldiers every week?
16. Someone has a serious need to do...
Gideon Reader   (12.14.11)
...some serious reading regarding the definitions and circumstances of operational applications and aims of the term and actuall act(s) of terrorism. Start with General Sir Richard Clutterbuck's analysis of the motivations and goals of the Tupamaros and advance thru the field. Read slowly. The purpose is to reduce the general population's confidence in the government to maintain order and protect it, causing a breakdown in CIVIL order and CIVIL disruption, via the application of random and multi directional disruption and extreme acts of force and violence. Is this Minister just another dumb polititurd hack? Damn. Personell selection and finding the right person for the right job is obviously sorely needed.
17. Freedom Fighters
Sarah B. ,   U.S.A./Israel   (12.14.11)
That was not me. The worst kind of life that can be found in these talkbacks are people who hide their identity. I do not position myself against the groups that fight for Israel. Today the IDF is against the people of Israel. They are there to serve the Palestinians and leftists. We are at war. The existence of the Palestinian Authority puts the existence of Israel at risk. These groups are freedom fighters. They are fighting for us.
18. HUGE mistake. This could create a real civil war, imagine
Careful What ,   U Wish For   (12.14.11)
so Jews who served in elite combat units out of conviction, are now protesting a demolition of Jewish homes in Israel, and things get heated, paint is thrown on a car and they are shot or badly injured, or worse. This is horrible percent. what needs to happen is democracy. If 60% of the people want a proud Jewish country that is loving and respectful of all loyal citizens Christian Jew and Muslim and Atheist and every one else....than 60% of the supreme court needs to reflect that view point, not 6% and 84% reflect the 40%. We know the supreme court relay runs this country and no one has faith in it anymore, polls showing about 10-15% trust the supreme court.
19. Left Wing Currurption
Joe Sombrero ,   USA   (12.14.11)
What he expected no legal way of resolving any disputes. And when the government basically allows itself to be a pawn of other countries people that get frustrated. The left riots and throws rocks at Israeli soldiers and a government does nothing, leftist groups call for disobedience of military soldiers and the government does nothing, leftist groups funded by foreign governments spy on Israeli settlements, the Israeli government does nothing
20. Ahavas Yisroel
Rochel ,   Los Angeles USA   (12.14.11)
Chanukah is coming up soon. We must love our Jewish brothers and sisters, for the Temple was destroyed because of such hatred. The soldiers in the IDF go through enough and until we really get to the bottom of this, we must not act rashly. Chag Sameach!
21. No Faith in the Israeli Goverment
Joe Sombrero ,   USA   (12.14.11)
Want to bet the Left Wing or a Left Wing politician in the cabinet at the request of the Americans sparked this confrontation and provided the false rumor. Just a theory no proof. Could it have been Barak?
22. "Terrorists"?! Keep your eye on the ball!!
Reuven Ben-Tal ,   Jerusalem   (12.14.11)
To declare (and treat) them as terrorists would be illogical, anti-democratic and dangerous. First, you would have to seriously study various legal definitions of terrorism; and then you would have to see if this really fits what is happening here. It is most likely that you can simply treat them as "protesters" and, at times, "violent protesters" and then treat them as you would any other protesters who violate municipal and state laws based on their closely documented behavior. Have we declared other protesters in Israel, such as the current "social rights" (the tent people), long standing left-wing anti-government and ultra religious protesters as "terrorists"? So, there is at least a legal issue that must be addressed in declaring someone a terrorist. Second, this may very well be a distraction from the more serious issues that we have before us. Third, this merely (but dangerously) focuses on internal Israeli politics, beliefs, emotions and the need to speak out and protest on the one hand (which is one of the most important corner stones of any democratic society and distracts us from the more serious and existential economic and security threats. We should first focus on and define true national threats, and then address them consistently. In any event, we should continue to focus on internal and external Arab terrorism, terrorists and threats before we fabricate threats. This distraction weakens us and our democracy and overall national security. It is like the deer focusing on those "annoying" birds that sit on their backs and not seeing the lion slowly approaching. Although the former is probably easier to do, the latter is extremely dangerous to avoid. Darwin would probably consider this a question of getting your survival priorities in order! So, let's keep our eye on the ball!
23. How about REAL terror attacks not REPEATING THEMSELVES???
Haim ,   Tel aviv   (12.14.11)
You just let out 1027 lusty murderers, but for throwing a can of paint and some rocks you say "this will never happen again" You are such hypocrites its nauseatingly clear. Israel needs public servants, not private jack---es.
24. The people are FRUSTRATED and ANGRY BIBI get with the progra
Careful What ,   U Wish For   (12.14.11)
program man. When leaders are corrupt, when leaders lie to their people about what their red lines are, when leaders cave in to pressure from outside, when leaders tell the people "to eat cake" if the people need flour....then the leadership is in danger of losing the people.
25. All Inflammatory Rhetoric leads to murder...
IMC ,   Israel   (12.14.11)
Please TBers left and right...exercise serious self control before posting the garbage that you are posting here.
26. #9 WOW do you even know where Israel is?
Mike ,   Raanana Israel   (12.14.11)
If I where you living in the USA I would concentrate on paying down you mortgage and runing to your local pawn shop to reclaim your goods. Let me and us take care of our homes, nothing for you to overload your plate with. But thanks anyways. Oh, my lid is on, its all good.
27. What else would you call it?
john   (12.14.11)
The use of violence for political purposes against the state = terrorism. Doesn't matter who commits it.
28. Internal Fighting
Israeli 2   (12.14.11)
among Jews in Israel is what our enemies want and why they will win. The Beit Hamikdash got destroyed because of such rife. I am fuming at Neeman's suggestions. We all need each other and let the God of Israel dwell among us. This is getting out of hand.
29. What is the law?
Ralph Haglund ,   Lund, Sweden   (12.14.11)
Barak has his own private law, often he does not care a whit what the written law is or what is just processed in the leftist court. Tell him to concentrate on saving the lives of Jews against muslim terrorists, that is what he got paid for - an awful lot! Remember that grubby little thing, Arafat signing in Oslo that Israel has full control over area C - at least as much as he would have over area A and B, untill negotiated peace? Why are so many more pro-palestinian than Arafat was??? Leftists or non-thinking ones I guess.
30. #15 Get a life...
Gregg ,   Haifa, IL   (12.14.11)
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