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Haredi paper: PM betraying coalition partners
Kobi Nahshoni
Published: 27.12.11, 11:22
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1. TOTALLY UNREALISTIC HAREDI MYSOGYNY
stude   (12.27.11)
lies at the heart of their ugly fanaticism against women. there is no religious basis whatever for their woman hatred.
2. Haredim have no choice...
nadav ,   tlv   (12.27.11)
Not only have they no choice but to ally with- and vote for- right-wing parties, but they must openly and forcefully condemn extremism in their midst- it's NOT enough to say there are extremists and it's "not us." They must also start to openly and willfully encourage their men and women to work, serve in the military or national service, accept pluralism in Judaism, stop evading taxes, support democratic State institutions and educate their children in Israeli history, maths, sciences, and at least some contemporary Hebrew literature. Otherwise, they will continue to raise the ire of other ISraeli citizens who see them as violent, corrupt, ant-state, parasitic and fanatic.
3. What goes around, comes around.
israel israeli ,   tel aviv   (12.27.11)
It is clear that the attack on the Haredi are unwarranted and unfair. But why are they complaining? They joined hands with the extreme Left in delegitimizing the Zionists, in importing Arafat to Israel and in ethnically cleansing Jews from their homes. They accepted money to remain silent while Sharon's forces destroyed 11 synagogues, uprooted Jewish graves and violated Jewish girls. Now that their former allies are attacking them, they are crying?
4. my brothers and sisters, my fellow co-religionists:
sephardi leftist ,   Israel   (12.27.11)
1. Do not do what is hateful to you to others. 2. If you ignore number 1 above remember that as you sow, so shall you reap. 3. You are sowing hatred and division in throughout the Land. 4. Your actions and behaviors are dividing us. They include "sinat hinam" (baseless hatred) 5. Please take care to change your ways. Lest G-d in His Heaven be offended and punish you. May the 8th candle of Hanukah bring you to the goodly light of G-d and to understanding that the daughters of the House of Israel are to be honored for they (each one of them, no exceptions) are the crown that G-d has given us.
5. peacefully I say to these people....
a daughter of Israel ,   Israel   (12.27.11)
I am a woman and I will not be excluded. Above me only G-d! If you attempt to exclude me or any other woman G-d will hear my cry out against you and He will take the appropriate action. As is written in Shemot 22: 22-24: "22 Ye shall not afflict any widow, or fatherless child. 23 If thou afflict them in any wise, and they cry at all unto me, I will surely hear their cry; 24 And my wrath shall wax hot, and I will kill you with the sword; and your wives shall be widows, and your children fatherless." Take care for I am a woman and a widow within the House of Israel and as is written above my cry is powerful before the throne of G-d!!
6. It;s Time to Be Loyal Citizens
yaakov ,   TA   (12.27.11)
It's long overdue for those who deem themselves" holy" partake in in the responsibilities of being citizens of this country. Many of us believe that holiness starts with caring for our fellow citizens, and that principle has been forgotten by more than a few. No one denies that some have the freedom to observe their own customs, but not at the expense of the rest of us. Judaism is more that ritual observance and twisted interpretations of man- made beliefs. Otherwise there would be little to distingusih it from paganism...
7. Agree with #3- Karma
Rachel ,   US   (12.27.11)
Haredi are learning what goes around, comes around. You aligned with the left for money and voted for Oslo and Gaza disengagement. Now your "friends" are turning against you. Oh well.
8. At last, wake up Israel and Israelis against HAREDIM!
Albert ,   Buenos Aires   (12.27.11)
It is never late...... just do it
9. #3 I agree 90% with you
Golan ,   modiin   (12.27.11)
10. most amusing #3 & #7
watcher ,   Israel   (12.27.11)
My memory is long and I do remember that the Haredi and ultra-orthodox have been coalition members of ALL governments of the State of Israel. Meaning that they have received monies and support from all governments both left wing and right wing. Therefore to me your comments are most amusing as they lack clear historical perspective. Best to you and yours
11. #11 Historical perspective
(12.27.11)
Right wing never called Haredim parasites, inferior, primitive, animals or cockroaches, never incited against them, never tried to force other beliefs on them. That has always been their "friends" on the Left.
12. LIVE AND LET LIVE
Democracy MEANS ,   Josh   (12.27.11)
The heredim do not go to secular nightclubs or Tel Aviv beaches and cause problems - they stay home and do their own thing. Seculars should likewise stay out of religious neighborhoods and their business. If you are a democracy, you have respect for differentness and appreciate others for who they are.
13. the ultra orthodox are behaving like uncivilized barbarians
Castor Troy ,   Los Angeles   (12.27.11)
14. @11 I think you need to review the record...
watcher @10 ,   Israel   (12.27.11)
and once you do, you will learn that your statements are not correct. BTW you have misrememebered about the cockroaches...that comment was made by former Chief of Staff of the IDF, Member of Knesset and government minister: Mr. Rafael Eitan,z"l. He made the cockroach comment with respect to the Palestinians in Gaza. So let's stay with the facts without emotional dressing or insults.
15. Stop the Alyah of ANTIDEMOCRATIC jews
Salomon ,   Paris   (12.27.11)
They will kill israelian democraty from inside ( Haredim + Russian ) little by little the demography will kill democraty
16. If one generalized about Arabs you would be arrested
Sam   (12.27.11)
99% of Haredim are not involved in this, but the entire sector is being castigated.
17. Just add 5 miilion seats to the Knesset
Robert ,   NY USA   (12.27.11)
Jewish isn't a race. Each one is our own race. Then everyone will be represented.
18. These Haredim
Ralph ,   Caesarea   (12.27.11)
are not Jewish!!!!!!
19. @12
Ralph ,   Caesarea   (12.27.11)
It's not democracy it's gettocracy!!!!
20. 18
john Darren ,   cairns-Australia   (12.28.11)
So ,what are they. Please answer.
21. #16 sam
solomon ,   bklyn   (12.28.11)
In the US we hear from Moslems that the extremists aren't the majority. But we do not hear this publicly, in a loud voice. We do not hear Moslem condemnation of the acts perpetrated by Moslems spoken in a loud voice. This is disconcerting to say the least. Similarly, Israelis should be hearing Haredi condemnation of acts perpetrated by Haredim spoken publicly and in a loud voice.
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