Opinion  Nahum Barnea
Israel vs. the NY Times
Nahum Barnea
Published: 29.12.11, 17:10
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31. Grain of truth with all anti Semites
Sam   (12.29.11)
Shylock reflects that ther were Jewish moneylenders and Jews do drink red wine and eat matzohs. But what is disturbing is that the anti Semite argument wasn't made by Netanyahu but this mendacious journalist doesn't seem to care
32. Antisemite?
Moisha Kapoir ,   Nanuet USA   (12.29.11)
The question should be: Can anyone claim the he is NOT an Antisemite because he is Jewish?
33. Wrong Focus
zivron   (12.29.11)
The New York Times constituency is of jew from the pale of settlement who decided on the Galut Eretz yisroel was too hard for them . The jews in israel are the strogest and need be protected with safe borders and in fact ought aimfor total self suficiency. The authority of the Galus is to support israel financially in all sectors however criticism is necessary as attenae to the world geopolitical climate. For the moment united states and indeed all human rights democratic advice is necessary remembe north korea has china or elementrs in china even russia supporting it.
34. New york TIMES
Sigmund   (12.29.11)
The jews of the usa are in the main doing it easy materially but often have shocking prolems with their spoilt overidulget youth . Some jewscare there atheist but there are jews who are proisrael but also pro humane. So they will insist the arabbs are treated according t the protocols of the geneva convention as long as security is not imperilled.
35. #19. Jarda: Yes. It was Stalin who saved Israel
Tom ,   USA   (12.29.11)
When the British attacked the nascent Israel via Arab Legion it was Stalin who instructed the Czech to supply arms. It had nothing to do with Communism but with political considerations of the moment like the Molotov-Ribbentrop pact. During at later time the Jewish communist supported the Soviets against Israel: I refer to the Israel-Arab wars of '67 when Jews rooted for Nasser. I am (ex)E. European I was there.
36. #21Avramele: Don't confuse Herzl with N.Y.Times
Tom ,   USA   (12.29.11)
Founders of Israel were E. European-Russian-Eurasian Holocaust survivors with a different agenda than the American Leftist plutocracy of today. What have the Hungarian Herzl or Jabotinsky in common with Friedmann or Soros or with you beloved Haaretz? Nowadays the International Left declared war on Israel both in the US and in the EU: only the most bigot, rabid Marxists cannot see it. Until they get hit. Remember who and what followed Rosa Luxemburg. (1871-1919)
37. Do you all see only Black and White?
James ,   USA   (12.29.11)
As usual, instead of engaging in self-examination to see what is actually behind the views of these authors, you all resort to labels such as "Anti-Israel" and "Anti-Semite". Must you all work in absolutes...black-and-white....pro-Israel or Anti-Israel? Maybe that is just easier than trying to intelligently respond to the substance of what is being written about Israel and the Netanyahu government.
38. to #19 Jarda Czech About #4 Tom
Elzeide ,   Buenos Aires   (12.29.11)
Jarda, Most of us knows about the wonderful help Israel received from Checoslovaquia (now Czech republic), that helped Israel to won the 1948 war. However that wasn't "because" the USSR. Surely it was with the consent of the USSR, but Czech people love Israel and Jews from long before. Did you know that only one wood Beit Hakneset (synagogue) survived WWII, and that this one was in Prague? So, please stop with communist propaganda. And again Thanks to the Czechs.
39. It is not just Friedman
Sidney ,   USA   (12.29.11)
Cohen is worse. Until the last election in Iran he wrote about how we all misunderstood peaceful Iran. Now he just bashes Israel. Then there is Kristoff, who is not Jewish, the apostle for "the third world is better than us" who demonizes Israel continuously. Add to these three the endless stream of anti-Israel editorials. Maybe it is related to large Arab investors in the company, Carlos Slim is of Arab descent.
40. 19 of 20 articles
Annie ,   USA   (12.29.11)
No-one is saying anyone who critisizes Israel is anti-semitic, we Jews critisize ourselves all the time. But when it's only ONE side of the story being told - 19 of 20 times, something stinky is going on.
41. Reality
Michael Pielet ,   Israel   (12.29.11)
After our experience in poland, we better beware of Jew haters.
42. Wrong Question, Wrong Answer
Dan ,   Forest Hills   (12.29.11)
Par for the course. Another red herring by Barnea.
43. I just see Friedman's name in the by-line
Steven A. ,   Bay Area, USA   (12.29.11)
and I know it's yet another anti-Israel attack piece. He's a Jew who's making a living by attacking Israel. It's reprehensible.
44. Hasn't Bibi Played The Anti-Semite Card About One Time ...
World Citizen ,   the world   (12.29.11)
Too Many? To be honest people that are critical of Israeli government policies have been called anti-Semitic and worse for so long it no longer has any affect on us. Anyone who dares tell the truth about Israel is an anti-Semite. I'm an anti-Semite, so what? I can live with it.
45. Ynet talkbackers love the anti-semite
avramele   (12.29.11)
I have always detested the thesis of Jean Paul Sartre's "Anti-Semite and Jew" as he seemed to imply that the anti-semite defines our existence as a people independent of our rich and wonderful history, culture, religion and values. Yet listening to talkbacks on Ynet day after day has led me to believe that defining anti-semitism is the security blanket of those of us who are most paranoid, xenophobic and so so insecure. Tom Friedman, myself and others like us do not hate ourselves or our people. We only believe that the course chosen by successive Israeli governments is foolish and self-destructive. Disagree with us and the legacy of Rabin if you wish but do so with arguments not epithets and please don't think that our blood is not as blue and white as yours.
46. #5 Paulina, look around you
BEN JABO ,   ISRAEL   (12.29.11)
Poland was a notorious hotbed of Anti-Semitism A self-hating Jew, Henry Kissinger for example, is an anti-semite
47. Abrams in the NSA? Never heard that
Abe ,   USA   (12.29.11)
Abrams was Bush's Deputy National Security Advisor and oversaw a certain directorate within his National Security Council. The National Security Agency(NSA) is something completely different (supposedly apolitical as well) He was is a policy wonk and not an Intell guy. There's a huge difference. That's just lazy right there.
48. more stupiod ramblings. get rid of these people, discuss
ralph   (12.29.11)
issues with thought and depth. or is that to much to ask?
49. New York times and Thomas Friedman are desperate
JamesPhiladelphia ,   Philadelphia USA   (12.29.11)
The NYT and Thomas Friedman have been no friends of Israel for ever. But recently they have become more desperate than before in their attacks against Israel. This is a sign that they have lost their misguided battle. That business wise they are in decline might add to the fire. Thomas Friedman is a well discredited journalist. As a matter of fact only rarely gets invited by PBS or Charlie Rose. And when he talks about the Middle East shows great ignorance. His best source is a friend that lives in Amman Jordan. Thomas Friedman is pathetic, even his double chin makes him repugnant. Otherwise I feel sorry for both the NYT and Thomas Friedman. I have seldom seen such self hatred Jews dance together. I just ignore them, or like My Dad used to say hij hob them .
50. NY Times vs Israel !
Lauren Kedem ,   Israel   (12.29.11)
Even the title of this opinion is biased and reverses the blame from its true source. Not only do editorials in the NY Times consistently and frequently criticize anything and everything concerning Israel ( not only Netanyahu) but news reports are also biased ,inaccurate and filled with misinformation and lies. It is NOT wrong or bad to criticize Israel. We make plenty of mistakes and do many things which are wrong - but the NY Times publishes blatant lies and distortions of the truth which reinforce anti-semitic hatred disguised as anti - Israel hatred, making it " politically correct " and acceptable to those whose intentions are offensive and dangerous to Israel and to Jews. The NY Times is a disgrace to journalism.
51. Friedman is no profet
Sasha ,   Bilbao, basque   (12.29.11)
Friedman has his political agenda. He constantly attacks Netnyahu government. Evry his analysis, on any subject makes me vomit. He's big fraud, intellectually unsustainable. One might be left wing, but still intellectually sound. Therefore Netanyahu is right to completely ignore him, but not th NY Times.
52. You are all insulting Jews, so ...
John ,   Amsterdam, NL   (12.29.11)
Dear talkbackers, all of you are now insulting fellow Jews, for being clueless, antisemitic, extreme anti-Israel, etc. That is so very anti-these Jewish people, you must be antisemitic. Shame on you for attacking Jews like this! I would expect better from you! Nothing as hard to watch as self-hating Jews like you. Why do you hate fellow Jews so much?
53. #23 Tahl: Read the U.S. media
Tom ,   USA   (12.29.11)
From the N.Y. Times through Newsweek, Times, Wash.post you can see hordes of radical leftist Jews bashing Israel. Listing all the names would occupy several pages. How about Ezra Klein Wash.post, Joe Klein Time mag. just a sample.
54. #52 John: Marlene Dietrich for you
Tom ,   USA   (12.30.11)
Stalin's Jews We mustn't forget that some of greatest murderers of modern times were Jewish Published: 12.21.06, 23:35 / Israel Opinion Thew author, Sever Plocker is a remarkable, honest individual. Instead of whitewashing human failings remember Marlene Dietrich who had the moral fortitude to condemn her German people for the Nazism. We're not a tribe bonded by tribal customs: we reject those who intentionally harm us. Watch the old Italian movie "KAPO" by Pontecorvo, 1960.
55. Comparison
Marty ,   Toronto Canada   (12.30.11)
Though the topic of this article is the NYT - allow me to digress slightly: Let's use the Toronto Star as an example of how a newspaper's editorial policy can border antisemitism... The Toronto Star allows Haroon Siddiqui to pen an endless stream of articles where he finds any and all excuses to mention Judaism or Israel - even the topic of Muslim honour killings has to contain examples of Orthodox Jewish behaviour. Yesterday's Star had an entire page detailing Beit Shemesh and the 8 yr old girl - in comparison - ongoing strife and killings in Syria ranks a quarter page. The Star also practices discrimination by omission - any event where Jews and Israel shine on the world stage either gets scant mention or is not even mentioned at all. Any crime or lawsuit where Jews are involved becomes front page news with the Star making great effort to somehow inform the reader that one or all of the parties are Jewish. The borderline between anti-Israel and antisemitism is crossed every time a newspaper holds Jews &/or Israel to a standard that no other state, ethnic group or religion is held to.
56. NY Times is to
Joe ,   Newtown USA   (12.30.11)
represent the news fair and balanced, anything other than that is MISLEADING , deceitful and uncalled for in a public forum .
57. If you present
Joe ,   Newtown USA   (12.30.11)
an anti Israel lie as a factual event, you are no better than Pravda
58. Friedman is no friend of Israel or the Jewish People.
Max ,   washington dc   (12.30.11)
Public figures, media talk show and writers have been fired for publishing less anti-Jewish Canards then Mr. Friedman published in the NY TImes. No apology from Friedman nor from Feyer and they have lost one more of it;s subscribers.
59. Jewish antisemites
Raphael ,   Netanya   (12.30.11)
Any jewish swindler may boost his social status, his academic career, his professional ambitions by giving a powerful moral backing to fascist, or muslim, or else antisemites, who are fond of such vile stooges. Shlomo Sand, Gilad Atzmon, Israel Shamir are using their (sometimes fake) jewish roots to play that role. The Inquisitions used "malsins", the nazis used kapos, the Romans used Flavius Josephus.
60. NY Times And Liberal's Peferfect For Each Other
A.C.Guard ,   USA   (12.30.11)
The NY Times is the darling of the liberal establishment and as such view Israel as the reason for almost everything that is wrong with the world. This notion reflects the same thinking as the socialist Obama.
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