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PM congratulates female army pilots
Yoav Zitun
Published: 29.12.11, 18:05
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1. Femail Pilots
Larry Jacvobson ,   Vancouver, Canada   (12.29.11)
Hopefully the day will come when the gender break down of graduating pilots will not be reported as man biting dog but as dog biting man ( mark Twain). We want the best pilots defending our skies .When an IDF pilot kilss a suspected enemy or shots down a threatening intruder do we really care who is in control as longa s the victor is Israeli.
2. Good catchphrase, proof of nothing...
Orly ,   Jerusalem, Israel   (12.29.11)
... Anyone who knows anything knows that women test better as army pilots than men especially in precision of landing. All that tells us is that women should occupy the air force. Should women sit in the back of the bus if they have to make a walk of shame from the front to the back? No. But most passengers would prefer to enter the back door and flash their monthly pass to the driver and take an empty seat. Should women be given that exclusive right? I don't have the answer, but as a woman it wouldn't bother me, however as a citizen I would be afraid of discrimination being directed against me in other areas. Does the women's position in the air force demand that women should form singing units in the military? Absolutely not, it is the epitome of misogyny and segregation. (I don't support male singing units nor mixed singing units in the military either.) Five of fourteen graduates are women? Is that due to lack of requests to serve in the air force or is it just sexism as usual? I'll leave that question for the PM and his Chief of Staff to answer.
3. Female Pilots
Rochel ,   Los Angeles USA   (12.29.11)
Yes, women make great female pilots! Women fly jets. Women serve in the IDF and are great soldiers. Women make great police officers.......Oh, yeah....wasn't there a female Prime Minister named GOLDA MEIR?
4. Kol Ha'kavod Banot & thank you very much
Norbus ,   Jerusalem   (12.29.11)
for your vigilant work on behalf of AM Yisrael. I am proud of you and your parents who brought you up to care for our people,. Hold your heads high, for no honour is as that you have won with your selfless devotion to the defence of your nation. G-d Bless you
5. Haredim need to know the law of the State is the rule.
Michael ,   California, USA   (12.29.11)
The real issue is their obstinacy to the State of Israel. They don't recognize the state and its rules. They want their rabbis to empower them somehow to disobey the elected representatives of the state, disobey the judges, police, IDF, what not. Women are pushed to the back of the bus as a token of the Haredi fight against the state of Israel. Little girls are spat upon for the same reason. As I wrote previously, the solution needs to come in the form of a Constitution, a clear and simple one. Something like: "we are all equal, we all serve the same state in the same way." If a Haredi will refuse to pledge allegiance to Israeli constitution, he/she should be kicked out of the country, the same as anyone else.
6. Needless endless articles about everything and nothing.
Al   (12.29.11)
Get over it damn it! Your enemies have you in their sights. They are about to launch a hail merry while you guys are too busy trying to win poltical points. Grow up...this is not a sound bite for TV. We are talking aboout whether the IDF can protect the country. I dont expect much from Netanyahu because he all about pizazz. He cant see the forest for the trees for all he wants to do is BS the people with BS. I expect a hell of a lot more from Gantz. I want him to prime the army, Tto enable it to protect the country. To discipline his soldiers, and to ensure they are properly trained and equiped. That should his #1 priority. Get off of the PC bandwagon, stop the nonsense about 'equality' and do the job that has to be done, namely ensuring the IDF can do its job of protecting the country, Stop pissing on eachother daily with political agendas. The enemy smells your weakness and is about to pounce. Grow up for heavens sake.
7. #3 GOLDA MEIR ?
LAWRENCE ,   SAFED ISRAEL   (12.29.11)
That old woman was an unmitigated disaster form Israel ,her hesitation and poor decision making caused the deaths of thousands of israelis during the 1973 Yom Kippur War because Golda knew beforehand that there was going to be a big war but she did not want to upset the goyim .I truly despise her ,As for woman pilots ,israel is only entertaining them in order to be "politically correct " and in tune with feminism. Sorry can't fly ,wrong time of the month...
8. PM Mr. Netanyahu...
Israela ,   Israel   (12.29.11)
those women are there because of an Israeli High Court of Justice Ruling against discrimination. You had nothing to do with that. and the fact that they are there has everything to do with their abilities. I agree with #1 Congratulations to all new IDF pilots!
9. female pilots
david ,   london   (12.29.11)
and i think Israel was one of the 1st western nations to have a female PM!!!!
10. #9 response
Albo ,   Canada   (12.29.11)
You underestimate Netanyahu and his ability to protect Israel. You make it seem as though Netanyahu spends his whole day pumping up his political prowess. If you think his government spends the majority of their day soliciting to the media then you are an ignoramous. Israel is more prepared for it's enemies than Britian, US or any other country. Israel will not take any threat lightly, never have and never will. If Netanyahu wants to score a few brownie points in the media to boost country moral then he is entighteled to do that like any PM.
11. Pandering
Michael Pielet ,   Israel   (12.29.11)
bibi is just pandering for votes. What happens when one of the maideles is shot down over enemy territory?
12. History
Michael Pielet ,   Israel   (12.29.11)
#7. please get y our history right. Golda totally relied on dayan and Ramatkal Elazar for military advice. They screwed up big time israel paid the price. What happens when one of these maidele pilots is shot down over lebanon or Syria.
13. Bibi
Michael Pielet ,   Israel   (12.29.11)
Bibi is just pandering for the cheloni women's vote. the next war will be fought by the giborai Israel, the national religious. Girls will not be fighters in that war. There is a place for girls in the army, serving coffee, etc. Women, lady fighters, never.
14. Makes no sense
Robert ,   NY USA   (12.29.11)
Women are better fighter pilots in certain instances, because they generally can handle more G-Forces than men. And some Orthodox don't 'exclude' women. It about 'protecting' women. I hate to go extreme here for an example, but would you fight for children to sit next to pedophiles? Maybe in Tel Aviv they might...lol.
15. Pilots
Ruben Jacobi ,   UK   (12.29.11)
Female Pilots both civil and military are not peculiar to Israel.Congratulations to the girls who have gone through all that it takes which I can assure is great.
16. #12 YOU ARE MISTAKEN
LAWRENCE ,   SAFED ISRAEL   (12.29.11)
Golda knew there was going to be a terrible war,she listened and bowed to Henry Kissinger who insisted israel must bleed in order to allow the arabs to regain some sense of pride so that a peace treaty could follow with Egypt. That was Kissingers' and Goldas' plan.And Golda was THE PRIME MINISTER and she had the ability and power to overrule Moshe Dayan and Elazar. Golda considered commiting suicide during the war by taking cyanide tanlet but she was too cowardly to follow through. That is the real story . As for women pilots ,this must be some kind of joke surely ?
17. History
Michael Pielet ,   Israel   (12.29.11)
Ok Larry do not believe me. Believe in your own fairy tales. Read Uri Joseph's book, The watchman Slept.
18. # 13
Birdi ,   Israel   (12.29.11)
Try googling women in the IDF & see how very mistaken you are.
19. # 6
Birdi ,   Israel   (12.29.11)
Oh gawd what a misery guts you are. Everything is black in your eyes. Shame.
20. women pilots
summer ,   tel avaiv   (12.29.11)
viva viva i wish that womens all the best gratulation to that brave women pilots brrrraaaavvvvvooooooooo
21. 16
john Darren ,   cairns-Australia   (12.30.11)
Where did you get the info that Golda considered suicide?And why do you consider female pilots a joke?
22. Female pilots
David ,   New york   (12.30.11)
I cannot believe an army would have female pilots. Firstly what happens when they get shot down? Secondly they do not have the same killer instinct that men do. Thirdly men shouldn't be in a training session with women around
23. Go Girls!!
Alastair ,   Australia   (12.30.11)
Saying this is Political Correctness is ridiculous! There is no question PC has no place in this world - people should always be promoted based on their talents and abilities. Male or Female! I know these young women will do Israel proud as do all the young Men of the IDF/IAF! G-d Bless you All in the defence of Your Land and His Chosen!
24. women pilots
arulnathan ,   malaysia   (12.30.11)
CHEERS!!! to you women....God Bless you...
25. #3,16
Tired of the lies   (12.30.11)
Let me guess...you're one of these freaky dudes with the weird black hats and funny looking sideburns,that never wash...right? Thought so..
26. #25 YOU GUESSED WRONG BUDDY
LAWRENCE ,   SAFED ISRAEL   (12.30.11)
27. Exactly the womens rights we should be fighting for
rebecca ,   Modiin   (12.30.11)
Although I am sure these girls only interest is in flying and fighting for their country, they are doing a huge service for womens rights, far more than a dolly bird singing to entertain the menfolk. Kol ha'kavod to these girls. It's a tough course. PG they will prove themselves worthy in combat and PG there should be less combat for all of us. PS I cant see these high flyers caring about siting in a bus. They sit in the ONLY seat in their jets. WOW. Impressive.
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