2100 years of subjugation have not liberated the jews from yankelism and assimilation. Some of them like barnea and all of haaretz criticize israel at every turn, undeservedly. Israel has a hard edge because it lives in the middle east. The arabs have brought this out. Yet the lack of confidence of the barneas, marcus's , olmerts and livnis is sickening and maddenning. Only the US, ban ki-moon and eu approval can satisfy these weaklings. maybe feiglin can give israel a sense of nationhood though I would not stick light unto the nations to the rest of the world who generally are sick of chosen and light unto nations argument which may be good in a classroom but not in the real world where expectations are too high with antisemitism and genocide the direct result to this jewish thesis. Live as a good nation but not light unto or chosen. Non jews are sick of it as they are of islamic fundamentalism. If someone wants to pray to a pig, that is his business and not that of the jew to point the way.

and basically against their own government........ Wants to take over the government...kill the religious Jews......possibly................ Then they want to be pacifists...when the Arabs and Persians cross the border to murder the rest of the country of Israel????? This sounds logical. The hospital care....is just as pathetic in the United States. If you have no money...they don't want to see your face. My mom had a knee replaced for $85,000.00 thousand US Dollars. What a deal. Her doctor won't take medicare anymore....sound familiar????

Israel will eventually be ruled by the Ultra-Orthodox. I have absolutely no doubt about it. If people are against it then most likely it will come to a civil war. If the Jewish Temple is rebuilt this will only inspire more Ultra-Orthodox Jews to get rid of secularism and anything associated with it.

If it doesn't work, at least it will be pretty!

The author seems to think that this is the last thing we could possibly need in our military, yet he also thinks that violent street thuggery is a suitable way to combat those who deride it. Not very well thought through. I'm not a settler, but it when I see an article like this that I know there is a problem because I know what would happen to "one of them" if they ever espoused such views. If a settler wrote this he'd be arrested for grave inconsistancy . . . and for incitement to violence.

Shaked seems not to have gotten the memo about respecting women. His cynicism suggests that a woman does not have an inherent right to move about in clothing (or lack thereof) in a manner in which she is comfortable. But he alternatively suggests that using women as sexual objects to yield desired results is in no way misogynistic or demeaning. Welcome to 2011: This is not femenism, nor does it defend our rights as equals or as individuals, but rather it represents the polar opposite.

Raanan Shaked, what the State of Israel needs, is a Constitution and the separation between State and Religion. Without such a separation, a State can't be called a Democracy. In 1965 Zeev Jabotinsky's son, Eri, being the leader of the movement against religious coercion, fought for the separation between the State and Religion. What happened since than ? Nothing ! What went wrong ? Well, Ben Gurion, from the begining included the religious parties into the government, accepting their conditions, just to prevent Begin's Herut party to ever enter a coallition. So the famous "Status Quo" was born, and the consequences are felt till today. Think about it, Raanan Shaked, and find more intelligent solutions.

What do you think that our enemies surrounding us will be doing while we fight each other? Do you think that they'll politely wait for us to settle our differences or will they pitch in when we're at our weakest?

No civil war and no "batyihe", as we say here. The Loosing Left is latching on to every possible plank for rescue, meaning putting the fear of God in (pun intended) in every secular Israeli's heart. Tried with Sara, it didn't work, tried with Bibi-didn't work, tried with cottage cheese- didn't work, tried with "settlers"-hmmm, not really, now they've got something everyone is fearful of : H-A-R-E-D-I-M !!! Who's trembling now? They (the black-clad Jews with Imaginary Friend in the Sky) will become a major problem, but that's in the future. First we have to make sure we'll have a future. If left to the Left-wing Lunatics I'm not sure we'll have one! So, first things first: let's put the "Peace-Process" to rest ('cause it's begining to stink up the whole neigborhood) THEN we'll tackle the Pious Ones..... Tiraga Gever!

Stange but true.I was thinking about the bikini approach but, not 20, rather 100 , 200 or more. Kidding aside; we , the israeli majority are fast becoming like the Chinese, Russian, German majority who allowed their minority to take over and resulting in the needless slaughter of 100's of million of innocent 'bystanders' who didn't want to get involved. Is this going to be the recipe for our own " final solution "?

I can't believe JPost printed such trash.

Dear Raanan Shked ,there is no need for civil war because very soon Iran ,Syria and Hizballah will detroy the jewish state.

fundamentalism dressed up as 'religion' is stupid and offensive and must be eliminate from all the world including Israel. what is unacceptable is the intolerant violence of those godless religous bigots that seek to enforce their extremist values on the rest of the community.

Regardless if the secularist like it or not, this country will be ruled by the Ultra-Orthodox, and there is nothing they can do about it. f it comes to a civil war then so be it. I hate secularism and so does GOD. The half naked women on the billboards on the streets and beach the Alcohol, on and on. It must come to a end.

This is a very good article. They only ones against this article are the secularist who cant read scripture nor understand that Israel will be cleansed from the disease and sins of secularism.

factionalism is the rule in israeli democracy and you have it now ..the real complaint is that mapai and mapam no longer control the.govt. this person is a 'divider' and for what?

Into the faces of the ultra-religious , knowing full well that it will offend them .Just who is being provocative ? I thank you Mr. Shaked for showing the secular left in their true colours.

fun. These penguins have been getting away with spousal abuse and child abuse for much too long. A change will be in order.

A few men complaining about a bus is a civil war, is it? Well at least you can succor yourself when Hamas takes over. Long Live Liberal Activism, you moron.

They have the brain of a SHAKED

Wake up, people, before it;s too late

Hearing seeing speaking nothing in terms of reality. Using the now worn out old dismissive rhetoric for any criticism of us - whether it's the ex heads of intelligence and the current head of Mossad, a host of ex-generals, academics, politicians, citizens - ALL LEFTIES. It's so boring and it's all you have to say, so now you've said it, shut off the computer and go out and smell the realities of chauvenism, prejudice, segregation, delegitimisation, all of it doing so much more damage to us from within than any external threats or boycotters, divestors etc etc could ever do. No? Don't want to hear it or see it or speak of it? Well that's OK then. We know where we are with you - you're part of the problem - you have no interest in the solution. So go on, tell me I'm a Lefty too. I'm not, but does that matter to you? No. As long as you react as you do, it'll get worse and worse, if that's possible, and when we all finally wake up to the truth, we'll know you contributed to the mess. So Rav Todot and Shavua Tov.

If you hate secularism...and presumably you would want Israel to be exclusively ultra-Orthodox as you're predicting, exactly who is going to protect you...God? The same way he protected Jews during the Holocaust?. I think this time it's a much better idea to depend on the IDF.

...what calls for violence did to Rabin? This guy should be jailed for incitement like the Left did to the Right.

this is not a good article. Best option: "When they hit you with their billy clubs, zap them back with super love!" which means that you need to go and read GandiGee's writings and learn all non-violent resistance. For recent examples of non-violent resistance see Dr. Martin Luther King's actions against racism and segregation in the USA of the 1960s.